hi friends, Can anybody have e copy of DGCA Guidelines? if yes please forward it to my ID.
With Regards Neeraj Manglik Mobile number: 9312902018 Yahoo id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype id: neerajmanglik We cannot be more sensitive to pleasure without being more sensitive to pain. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 8:29 AM Subject: Re: [AI] DGCA Guidelines for Blind passengers travelling by Air > Hello Rakesh > > Indian airlines does not discriminate on this issue. If a seat is > available, > then they will give you discount confirmed seat. However, that is not the > case with Jet Air. They have a quota of concessional seats and keep you > wait > listed. Again, it is a matter of economics. Some other airlines don't > offer > any concession at all. > > In my opinion, DGCA guidelines cannot fall on the ticket fares and > concessions or any package offered by the airlines. It is frevelous on our > part to make any recommendations on it. > > 1) What we should insist upon is that no airlines can deplane or deny > ticket > to a blind person who are not escorted. > > 2) Permission to carry guide dogs without extra cost. > 3) To provide wheel chair to the physically disabled without extra cost. > > Personally I feel it is a non issue regarding the seating preference made > by > airlines for operational reasons. > > Let me site an incident which apparently looks discriminatory. > > I was once flying with my wife and 2 infants on arm. After I boarded, the > air hostess came up to us and asked us to sit on either different rows or > on > another wing. I thought it was ridiculous and obliged unwillingly, after > she > kept insisting there was some rule to that effect. Much later, I narated > that incident to another hostess who was very friendly. She explained the > reason for that rule. In each section, eg. a lot of 3 seats, there are 4 > oxygen ducts. If there are more than 1 infant in arm, during an emergency > there will be a short fall of the oxygen duct. Merely rearranging the > seating the problem is solved. > > By and large when a rule is made, there is a definite purpose for it. We > may > not readily understand it. It is my guess that, Jet air may be training > the > crew to first go and attend passengers in the last row first during an > emergency. > > Indian airlines, prefers to seat disabled passengers in the first row. > > It is in our interest not to disturb this. > > Harish > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dr Rakesh Jain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 12:18 AM > Subject: Re: [AI] DGCA Guidelines for Blind passengers travelling by Air > > >> Dear Friends, I think the whole issue of concession is getting confused. >> The >> discounted or concessional tickets for blind passengers a class apart >> altogether with all airlines. That is, there are limited number of seats >> on >> each flight. What we require is that even if there is one seat available >> in >> the flight, we must get a confirmed seat. The airlines should not deny us >> the concessional seats if that particular class is full. Suppose, there >> are >> ten or twenty or maybe two blind passengers who want to fly on a flight, >> according to the present system, all the blind passengers with not get a >> confirmed seat if the low fair seats are full. Concession is not an >> issue, >> the issue is availability of concessional ticket to blind passengers to >> the >> last available seat on a given flight. Please give your suggestions. >> >> Dr. Rakesh Jain >> Mobile (Reliance): 09336787900 >> Mobile (BSNL): 09415787900 >> Residence: 05224001112 and 05222732345 >> Skype ID: dr.rjain >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Harish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 9:01 PM >> Subject: Re: [AI] DGCA Guidelines for Blind passengers travelling by Air >> >> >>> Hi Rajiv >>> >>> Since the advent of the low cost airline concept, the airlines are >>> running >>> in shoe string budget. Asking for a furthur discount would not carry us >>> anywhere. makes more sense asking for fascilities. >>> Let me illustrate an incident, A full fare between Bangalore to >>> Hyderabad >>> last year was arround Rs. 5,000, the discount ticket using concession >>> would >>> come to arround Rs. 2,500. However the reduced fare without concession >>> came >>> to Rs. 1,200. Can you expect to get any furthur discount? >>> Harish. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "disability rights initiative" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 4:22 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AI] DGCA Guidelines for Blind passengers travelling by Air >>> >>> >>>> i have been following this topic with interest and frankly, i admire >>>> all >>>> of >>>> you guys who travel around so confidently without any escorts. but >>>> personally, being late blind myself, i am mortally scared of >>>> travellling >>>> alone. its not the fear of travelling but the fear of falling of steps, >>>> escalators, railway platforms and the like and strongly feel that for >>>> air >>>> travel also escorts should be allowed on discounted tickets like in >>>> the >>>> railways. i am sure there are quite a few of us who have to travel and >>>> are >>>> late blind and a little late in life to overcome the fear. it would be >>>> a >>>> good idea to encourage views from across the list so as to enable us to >>>> have >>>> a clearer picture. prasana pinchas case and also rajiv rajans case >>>> (locomotor disabled with cerebral palsy who was forcibly medicated at >>>> chennai for being mistaken for a mentally ill person) filed by hrln has >>>> resulted in these guidelines being framed by dgca and ccpd has sought >>>> our >>>> interventions on these guidelines so i will really appreciate a more >>>> vigorous expression of views on this topic. and if quite a few of us >>>> feel >>>> that escorts should also be allowed on discounted tickets i feel there >>>> is >>>> no >>>> harm in expressing the same. if airlines are offering so many tickets >>>> on >>>> discounted fares one more for an escort will hardly matter but this is >>>> my >>>> personal opinion. >>>> regards >>>> rajive >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Kaja, Kiran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 2:12 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] DGCA Guidelines for Blind passengers travelling by >>>> Air >>>> >>>> >>>>> I get a feeling that you want to argue for argument sake and do not >>>>> want to look at the practical issues and repurcations of your >>>>> arguments. >>>>> If you cannot travel alone in a flight inspite of the fact that the >>>>> airport authorities and airline staff take good care of you, I am >>>>> sorry >>>>> to say but you better not travel anywhere. Railways do not provide any >>>>> sort of help and so they allow for an escort. This is totally >>>>> impractical and unfair when it comes to airlines. If you do not want >>>>> to >>>>> travel alone, you are always free to take the train. >>>>> >>>>> Secondly, I really don't understand why do people make so much fuss >>>>> about seating. There is no way and it is totally unsafe for any sort >>>>> of >>>>> disabled person to be seated near the emergency exits. And if the >>>>> staff >>>>> decides that they can help you better by seating you at a particular >>>>> place, what is the big deal? They can ask anyone to change seats and >>>>> not >>>>> just blind persons. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Kiran. >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 08 August 2006 2:02 PM >>>>> To: ACCESSINDIA@accessindia.org.in >>>>> Subject: [AI] DGCA Guidelines for Blind passengers travelling by Air >>>>> >>>>> Of dear, Let us leave somethings for the nodal agencies to take care. >>>>> We >>>>> require an escort to assist us during the travel. & we want a >>>>> concessional >>>>> ticket for an escort. We do not need an escort if Govt. could do that >>>>> for >>>>> us. Let the checking authority take care of verify the veracity of a >>>>> true >>>>> escort or a 'business associate'??? We are aware of this fraud is >>>>> enough to >>>>> know our responsibilities. But facilities could never be denied upon >>>>> apprehensions. >>>>> >>>>> Seating a blind person at the rear or front-should it be an issue? >>>>> Why >>>>> should a blind person be discriminated to get allotted a particular >>>>> seat?? >>>>> Let the crew know where the person is requiring special attention. >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>>> >>>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>>>> please visit the list home page at >>>>> >>>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i >>>>> n >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>>> >>>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>>> please visit the list home page at >>>>> >>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>>> Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.7/410 - Release Date: >>>>> 8/5/2006 >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> No virus found in this outgoing message. >>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>> Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.7/410 - Release Date: >>>> 8/5/2006 >>>> >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>> >>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>>> please visit the list home page at >>>> >>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>> >>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>> please visit the list home page at >>> >>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >> >> Send instant messages to your online friends >> http://in.messenger.yahoo.com >> >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please visit the list home page at >> >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> > > > > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. 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