Noone can appreciate that in PC or technology related group, issues related
to rape or sexual harassment should be raised.
there is a yung friend of us Amit Bhat some days back he started a group
called today's focuss. I think that kind of group should be useful for
people like you.
please don't take undue advantage of the popularity of this forum for
raising such issues which are no less important but lack contextual
importance for this group.
I think I have made my point clear to all those who keep on raising such
issues with genuin concern.
With regards,
Vip
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vetrivel Murugan Adhimoolam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 6:53 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on
> Hi Rakesh,
>
> I think that we have made our points very clear and there is no reason to
> bother about personalized messages being forwarded to the list again and
> again. So my suggestion is that we should not be carried away by certain
> messages being forwarded out of anger and I am sure that majority of the
> list members will share those concerns that we raised.
>
> Vetri.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "rakesh kumar gupta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 3:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on
>
>
>> Hello DR. Vipin,
>> It seems that you want to run this group according your choice
>> "undemocratically" and you also want to declare that you are the only
>> person,who has all type of knowledge of all type of law, other members
>> have
>> no knowledge in this regard.
>> I am telling you with great regret that being a "lecturer" in Delhi
>> University, you haven't followed proper procedure of any complain and any
>> disliking in this regard. My dear friend! if you had whenever or have any
>> objection or any complain against raising any issue or procedure of
>> "immoderation" even though today also, you should directly send your
>> email
>> to Kiran {the moderator} for it.
>> Take care,
>> Rakesh Kumar Gupta,
>> PGT. / LECTURER of political science.
>> Mob: (91) 9868250258.
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 12:03 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on
>>
>>
>>> Patience for what my dear friends!
>>> Everyone knows what is the basic purpose of this group. I did not say
>>> that
>>> there should be voting on the issue!
>>> Realism should not be set aside for winning cheap populism. Let us not
>>> be
>>> eluded and deceived by those who under the garb of intellectualism and
>>> idealism of patience want to robe us of our precious time.
>>> Those who have knowledge about the common law are aware of the fact that
>>> once the group is moderated by some one if he allows certain issues to
>>> be
>>> raised which are not in the very objectives of this group and the group
>>> belongs to public domain. he could be held vicariously liable and could
>>> be
>>> sued in the courts for adequate compensation by any of the member for
>>> damages.
>>> So please bear with our friend Kiran! He is not going to pay some thing
>>> from
>>> his pocket. Law of tort is getting stronger and stronger these days and
>>> courts are very sensitive about the harms caused to some one even
>>> indirectly.
>>> The only remedy I could perceive under the circumstances that this group
>>> has
>>> expended like anything. Now we could declare this group as unmoderated
>>> and
>>> declare that 'any discussion which is catering to the wellbeing of VCs
>>> could be taken up directly or indirectly and every person who joins this
>>> group has to act according to his own good conscience. No member is in
>>> any
>>> way liable for the damages caused to him by reading the contents of this
>>> group.
>>> With lots of love and care to all!
>>> Vip
>>>
>>> Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra
>>> Deptt. of Political Science, Sri Aurobindo College,
>>> Delhi University
>>>
>>> Mobile: +919911113958
>>> Email: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Skype Id. vipin.malhotra
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "rakesh kumar gupta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 2:24 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello to all,
>>>> Yes Vetri! I agree with you.
>>>> Being a member of an intellectual group, we should have some patience
>>>> for
>>>> remarking on knowledge of anyone of us because "expression and open
>>>> discussion on any point" will create self confidence in a person.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Rakesh.
>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Vetrivel Murugan Adhimoolam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: "Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
>>>> <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>>> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 1:11 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> I certainly understand the concerns of the member who finds lack of
>>>>> time
>>>>> in
>>>>> going through so many messages. However I would like to request the
>>>>> members
>>>>> to be careful while choosing certain expressions. For example the
>>>>> statement:
>>>>> "We should not put our nose in
>>>>> each and every discussion to which we have no idea or have little
>>>>> knowledge
>>>>> to contribute". In my view this is unwarranted since none of us are
>>>>> specialized in all the fields and at the same time it cannot and
>>>>> should
>>>>> not
>>>>> be a barrier in contributing to the group. Believe me or not, my work
>>>>> load
>>>>> here in the US is so much and still I find time to go through the
>>>>> message
>>>>> list and choose which ones to read and which one to ignore based on
>>>>> certain
>>>>> priorities and availability of my time. This is not to show to the
>>>>> group
>>>>> how
>>>>> much hard working I am, but to show that My inconveniences cannot and
>>>>> should
>>>>> not be used as tools to request other members to restrict their
>>>>> participation. Perhaps it would be great if we could receive comments
>>>>> from
>>>>> other members on this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Vetri.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 9:15 AM
>>>>> Subject: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Members,
>>>>>> I think this group is purpose specific.
>>>>>> However, WE have reduced it in to a forum for general discussion.
>>>>>> When we started the group there was a specific purpose behind it.
>>>>>> There
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> so many things which could be discussed about the problems of VCs. I
>>>>>> think
>>>>>> we should have group purpose specific.
>>>>>> So that we could be specialized in our approach in dealing with the
>>>>>> problems
>>>>>> related to us. Just casual remarks on issues are mere wastage of time
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> so
>>>>>> many people here around. I received more than 300 messages on the
>>>>>> issue
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> definition regarding the word blind.
>>>>>> So many things which are important but do not fit in the scheme of
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> group could be taken up with free mind else where. Now initiating a
>>>>>> group
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> not a big thing. Any body could start a group. We should not put our
>>>>>> nose
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> each and every discussion to which we have no idea or have little
>>>>>> knowledge
>>>>>> to contribute to others.
>>>>>> With regards,
>>>>>> VIP
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hope the group would not take it otherwise. This is a specialized
>>>>>> world.
>>>>>> and we are part and parcel of the same integrated globe.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Naushad C A" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>> To: <AccessIndia@accessindia.org.in>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 7:36 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [AI] question
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> hello friends my name is Naushad and I am putting a
>>>>>>> question first
>>>>>>> time in access india.
>>>>>>> I am learning web programming from last one month. as
>>>>>>> a blind person
>>>>>>> actually I am struggling now with an issue about flash
>>>>>>> elements. How can
>>>>>>> I give disable friendly lables for flash element like
>>>>>>> buttons and other
>>>>>>> movie clips. willyou please give me a reply?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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