Excellent.

I normally use the paste special option under edit menu in ms word. The
default choice under this menu is as html. Using ctrl+v performs it. But it
also gives option for pasting unformatted text etc. Using this feature
pastes the text only retaining line breaks.


Best regards,

Amiyo.

Cell: +91-9433464329

----- Original Message -----
From: "Syed Imran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks and jaws.


> Hello Moiz and my dear list members,
>
> This is a lengthy E-mail. I like to share my technique of copying any data
> from web pages in its original  format including tables and hyperlinks. I
> assure you that if you perform these operations correctly, you can copy
the
> exact data appearing  on the screen. I further make myself clear to you
that
> the copied data will be free from line-breaks and page-breaks. So I hope
you
> don't mind spending some of your time with me to read this mail carefully.
> Before telling you how to copy, I want to make you aware of a curious
> technology which Freedomscientific is using in order to make web documents
> accessible by using something called "Virtual PC cursor". The virtual PC
> cursor performs the function of copying and differentiating headings,
links,
> formfields, and other such elements on a web page. This is called
> "Virtualising". Virtualising includes finding out the different elements
on
> a web page, layout of tables, etc and making these elements appear in a
> seperate line. The text we read using jaws in a web page is not what a
> sighted person reads on the screen. Let me make it easy to understand by
an
> example.
> I have given a paragraph in 2 different illustrations as to show how
exactly
> a paragraph with links might appear on the screen and how Jaws reads for
us.
> I think it is necessary for us to know how virtual viewer works, to
> understand why line breaks appear when we copy any data from Internet
> explorer
>
> I) Illustration 1 How does a web page appear on the screen? (not
> virtualised)
> ------------------------------
>
> The process of pickling fruits and vegetables:
>
> Some LINK fruits and LINK vegetables preserved by pickling. The
> fruit/vegetable washed and dried. Then it is cut into pieces and enough
salt
> is added. These pieces are kept in the sun. LINK Oil and LINK spices are
> added. The pickle
> are stored in a LINK dry jar with a tight lid. A dry spoon is used to stir
> and take the pickle from the jar. The pickle will spoil if a wet spoon is
> used.
>
>
> In this illustration, you can observe jaws saying "Link" in the middle of
> the line. I think this is how a "link" element appears on the screen.
> But whenever Jaws encounters any links in a web page, it breaks the line
to
> present them in a separate line as to make more accessible and also to an
> extent, save the time of the readers. Let me try to give an idea about the
> same in the 2nd illustration:
> ii) Illustration 2 How does Jaws virtualise the content? (virtualised)
>
> The process of pickling fruits and vegetables:
>
> Some
> LINK      fruits and
> LINK      vegetables
> preserved by pickling. The fruit/vegetable washed and dried. Then it is
cut
> into pieces and enough salt
> is added. These pieces are kept in the sun.
> LINK          Oil
> and
> LINK         spices are added. The pickle are stored in a
> Link      dry jar
> with a tight lid. A dry spoon is used to stir and take the pickle from the
> jar. The pickle will spoil if a wet spoon is used.
>
> ------------
>
> So this is how Jaws arranges the data in the web page after virtualising.
> However, when you copy this text to Microsoft Word, you will observe the
> text broken something like this:
>
> Some
> fruits and
> vegetables
> Instead of:
> Some fruits and vegetables
> We can surely remove the line breaks by pressing CTRL+downarrow and then
> back space followed by space bar as Vetry said, but it takes lot of time.
> Especially the lengthy documents. So when you want to copy anything from
> internet explorer, don't use selecting keys like Shift+downarrow, or
ctrl+A
> to select the text. follow these simple steps exactly to copy the exact
> information without line or page breaks.
>
> 1. Open the web page from which you want to copy
>
> 2. Press Alt+E to pull down edit menu.
>
> 3. Choose "Select all," by pressing A.
> We can't press CTRL+A directly instead of pulling down edit menu because
> Jaws will select from its virtual buffer. And I think Moiz, this could be
> the cause of your problem.
>
> 4. Again pull down the edit menu (Alt E) and choose copy by pressing C.
> Now what actually happens is that when you select all and copy from the
edit
> menu, the data gets directly copied from Internet explorer and not from
Jaws
> virtual buffer.
>
> 5. Open Microsoft word with a new document.
>
> 6. Paste whatever is copied from internet.
> This will paste the entire web page in your new documents including
> pictures, tables, links etc.
>
> 7. Keep whatever you want and delete unnecessary stuff.
>
>
> Some tips:
>
> 1. If you don't want pictures, tables and  links, then paste it in notepad
> and then copy it to Microsoft word
>
> 2. However if you want tables, then paste it in wordpad and  after
selecting
> the pasted text, copy it to Microsoft word.
>
> 3. If you suspect that there are hyperlinks still in the edited document,
> press CTRL+A and press CTRL+SHIFT+F9 to clear the hyperlink attribute from
> the entire document.
>
> I am still searching for some easier way to copy from web pages and will
be
> thankful  if anyone could help in this regard.
>
> For your success
>
> Syed Imran
>
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