Being the authorized user I can forward the issues to the freedom scientific. But it would be good if someone could structure the question properly and send it over to me. I could do it myself, but under a bit of tight schedule at the moment.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Syed Imran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Rohit Trivedi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 8:19 PM Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. But do they accept our suggestions and implement it? For your success Syed Imran ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rohit Trivedi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 6:28 AM Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. > Actually this problem needs to be reported to freedom Scientific. > Turnining > off virtual cursor is alright but say if you have to copy 2 or 3 paras > then > you have to delete the entire unwanted stuff. > Rohit m > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Syed Imran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 10:08 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. > > >> Hi Harish >> >> Thank you for telling me about INS+Z. I din't know that Jaws had this >> feature of actually turning the virtual PC cursor off. >> >> For your success >> Syed Imran >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Harish Kotian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 8:27 PM >> Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. >> >> >>> Hi Syed >>> A simpler way is to close the virtual mode by pressing Insert + z. >>> Thereafter ctrl + a and Ctrl+c should also work as it is not picked from >>> the >>> virtual buffer. >>> Harish. >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Syed Imran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >>> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 4:23 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. >>> >>> >>>> Hi Moiz >>>> >>>> Your issue really interests me and kindles my curiocity. Are you >>>> running >>>> Windows XP? If not, no problem. >>>> Just try this and let us know >>>> >>>> 1. Login to the site where you want to copy the journals from and quit >>>> Jaws. >>>> 2. Open run diolog box (Windows+R) and type narrator then push enter >>>> You should hear an old man speaking. This is called "Narrator". It is a >>>> screen-reading software comes with Windows XP. >>>> 3. Using Alt+TAB, move to your internet explorer window which you >>>> already >>>> have opened >>>> Making sure that your Jaws is inactive, >>>> 4. Press ctrl +A and CTRL+C >>>> 5. Start Jaws and quit Narrator. >>>> 6. Now paste it in Microsoft Word and let us know the result. >>>> I think you can try repairing Microsoft Internet Explorer if it doesn't >>>> work >>>> Meanwhile, It would be bit easier if we were to know the website your >>>> collecting the journals from. Is it www.thehindu.com? >>>> >>>> For your success >>>> Syed Imran >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "moiz tundawalla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >>>> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 3:34 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hello sir. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks a lot for the detailed explanation. >>>>> Well I have been doing the same thing. It isnt wworking. I managed to >>>>> exactly copy a page from the Hindu's website to ms word. But the >>>>> journals that I am looking at...strangely enough...its not happening. >>>>> Pulling down the edit menu, typing A for the select all command...this >>>>> is what I did but the thing is not getting selected. >>>>> Now does i.e. have different standards for different pages or what. >>>>> I'm clueless. >>>>> Using another brouzer can be tried as an option. But with all that was >>>>> said about virtualization, do you still think it'll make any >>>>> difference? >>>>> Moiz. >>>>> >>>>> Message: 11 >>>>> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:34:13 +0530 >>>>> From: "Syed Imran" < >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks and jaws. >>>>> To: < >>>>> accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >>>>> >>>>> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >>>>> reply-type=original >>>>> >>>>> Hello Moiz and my dear list members, >>>>> >>>>> This is a lengthy E-mail. I like to share my technique of copying any >>>>> data >>>>> from web pages in its original format including tables and >>>>> hyperlinks. >>>>> I >>>>> assure you that if you perform these operations correctly, you can >>>>> copy >>>>> the >>>>> exact data appearing on the screen. I further make myself clear to >>>>> you >>>>> that >>>>> the copied data will be free from line-breaks and page-breaks. So I >>>>> hope >>>>> you >>>>> don't mind spending some of your time with me to read this mail >>>>> carefully. >>>>> Before telling you how to copy, I want to make you aware of a curious >>>>> technology which Freedomscientific is using in order to make web >>>>> documents >>>>> accessible by using something called "Virtual PC cursor". The virtual >>>>> PC >>>>> cursor performs the function of copying and differentiating headings, >>>>> links, >>>>> formfields, and other such elements on a web page. This is called >>>>> "Virtualising". Virtualising includes finding out the different >>>>> elements >>>>> on >>>>> a web page, layout of tables, etc and making these elements appear in >>>>> a >>>>> seperate line. The text we read using jaws in a web page is not what a >>>>> sighted person reads on the screen. Let me make it easy to understand >>>>> by >>>>> an >>>>> example. >>>>> I have given a paragraph in 2 different illustrations as to show how >>>>> exactly >>>>> a paragraph with links might appear on the screen and how Jaws reads >>>>> for >>>>> us. >>>>> I think it is necessary for us to know how virtual viewer works, to >>>>> understand why line breaks appear when we copy any data from Internet >>>>> explorer >>>>> >>>>> I) Illustration 1 How does a web page appear on the screen? (not >>>>> virtualised) >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> The process of pickling fruits and vegetables: >>>>> >>>>> Some LINK fruits and LINK vegetables preserved by pickling. The >>>>> fruit/vegetable washed and dried. Then it is cut into pieces and >>>>> enough >>>>> salt >>>>> is added. These pieces are kept in the sun. LINK Oil and LINK spices >>>>> are >>>>> added. The pickle >>>>> are stored in a LINK dry jar with a tight lid. A dry spoon is used to >>>>> stir >>>>> and take the pickle from the jar. The pickle will spoil if a wet spoon >>>>> is >>>>> used. >>>>> >>>>> In this illustration, you can observe jaws saying "Link" in the middle >>>>> of >>>>> the line. I think this is how a "link" element appears on the screen. >>>>> But whenever Jaws encounters any links in a web page, it breaks the >>>>> line >>>>> to >>>>> present them in a separate line as to make more accessible and also to >>>>> an >>>>> extent, save the time of the readers. Let me try to give an idea about >>>>> the >>>>> same in the 2nd illustration: >>>>> ii) Illustration 2 How does Jaws virtualise the content? (virtualised) >>>>> >>>>> The process of pickling fruits and vegetables: >>>>> >>>>> Some >>>>> LINK fruits and >>>>> LINK vegetables >>>>> preserved by pickling. The fruit/vegetable washed and dried. Then it >>>>> is >>>>> cut >>>>> into pieces and enough salt >>>>> is added. These pieces are kept in the sun. >>>>> LINK Oil >>>>> and >>>>> LINK spices are added. The pickle are stored in a >>>>> Link dry jar >>>>> with a tight lid. A dry spoon is used to stir and take the pickle from >>>>> the >>>>> jar. The pickle will spoil if a wet spoon is used. >>>>> >>>>> ------------ >>>>> >>>>> So this is how Jaws arranges the data in the web page after >>>>> virtualising. >>>>> However, when you copy this text to Microsoft Word, you will observe >>>>> the >>>>> text broken something like this: >>>>> >>>>> Some >>>>> fruits and >>>>> vegetables >>>>> Instead of: >>>>> Some fruits and vegetables >>>>> We can surely remove the line breaks by pressing CTRL+downarrow and >>>>> then >>>>> back space followed by space bar as Vetry said, but it takes lot of >>>>> time. >>>>> Especially the lengthy documents. So when you want to copy anything >>>>> from >>>>> internet explorer, don't use selecting keys like Shift+downarrow, or >>>>> ctrl+A >>>>> to select the text. follow these simple steps exactly to copy the >>>>> exact >>>>> information without line or page breaks. >>>>> >>>>> 1. Open the web page from which you want to copy >>>>> >>>>> 2. Press Alt+E to pull down edit menu. >>>>> >>>>> 3. Choose "Select all," by pressing A. >>>>> We can't press CTRL+A directly instead of pulling down edit menu >>>>> because >>>>> Jaws will select from its virtual buffer. And I think Moiz, this could >>>>> be >>>>> the cause of your problem. >>>>> >>>>> 4. Again pull down the edit menu (Alt E) and choose copy by pressing >>>>> C. >>>>> Now what actually happens is that when you select all and copy from >>>>> the >>>>> edit >>>>> menu, the data gets directly copied from Internet explorer and not >>>>> from >>>>> Jaws >>>>> virtual buffer. >>>>> >>>>> 5. Open Microsoft word with a new document. >>>>> >>>>> 6. Paste whatever is copied from internet. >>>>> This will paste the entire web page in your new documents including >>>>> pictures, tables, links etc. >>>>> >>>>> 7. Keep whatever you want and delete unnecessary stuff. >>>>> >>>>> Some tips: >>>>> >>>>> 1. If you don't want pictures, tables and links, then paste it in >>>>> notepad >>>>> and then copy it to Microsoft word >>>>> >>>>> 2. However if you want tables, then paste it in wordpad and after >>>>> selecting >>>>> the pasted text, copy it to Microsoft word. >>>>> >>>>> 3. If you suspect that there are hyperlinks still in the edited >>>>> document, >>>>> press CTRL+A and press CTRL+SHIFT+F9 to clear the hyperlink attribute >>>>> from >>>>> the entire document. >>>>> >>>>> I am still searching for some easier way to copy from web pages and >>>>> will >>>>> be >>>>> thankful if anyone could help in this regard. >>>>> >>>>> For your success >>>>> >>>>> Syed Imran >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>>> >>>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>>>> please visit the list home page at >>>>> >>>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>> >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>> >>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>>> please visit the list home page at >>>> >>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>> >>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>> please visit the list home page at >>> >>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please visit the list home page at >> >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> > > > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. 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