Nirmal, Feel the plight of those girls (and boys too) (not acid victims) who are abandoned by their own families for their disability. No one is against providing reservation to acid victims in the disability quota if the same is increased proportionatlly. Let the government or the court itself increase the quota from existing 3% to say 4% and create a 4th sub quota and include the acid victims in that. Today acid victims are not a vast number. Tomorrow some other group will be included. Ultimately our community of physically challenged people looses its share and goes back to earlier bad conditions. I am not against these downtrodden communities. But my only argument is why providing the reservation in this 3% only? Why not in other 97%? Why all the burden of the society be born by these deprived disabled class? Why not other parts have their share in this duty?
Umesha S E On 12/16/15, SC Vashishth <subhashvashis...@gmail.com> wrote: > Nirmal, there is no one on this list who will not empathise with the cause > or not support the acid attack survivors. All we discussed is legal > technicalities in implementing a judgement. If any survivor has lost her > eyes, she gets covered under the visual disability for the disability law > doesn't differentiate on the etiology of disability. However, if that is > not the case, there would be problems! > > On 16 December 2015 at 10:18, Nirmal Verma <nirmalkat...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Dear friends >> >> Have you all met with any acid attack victim. Most of them have been >> attacked on face and their eyes affected. Some of them have their other >> body parts affected as well. >> >> Their number is not vast and inclusion of these people in disability >> quota >> should not affect any. >> Feel the plight of those girls who have been forced to keep their faces >> hidden always under veil. >> >> On Dec 16, 2015 10:06 AM, "SC Vashishth" <subhashvashis...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > I feel the judgement in present form is un-implementable, unless >> > changes >> > are made to the relevant laws/policies. I remember some time back, >> Hon'ble >> > Supreme Court also passed a direction about giving job reservations to >> > Transgender community as OBC and make provisions for adding special >> public >> > toilets for them as they had inhibitions using the male and female >> toilets >> > and also make changes to all forms etc to add Others with Mr./Ms. That >> has >> > laregley been implemented and we have seen in recent past, the >> transgenders >> > becoming police inspectors and Mayors. >> > >> > It would have been easy to implement the addition of Acid Attack >> survivors >> > in the OBC Quota than in Disability Quota due to obvious reasons. >> However, >> > there wouldn't be any problem if the disability caused by the accident >> > falls in the present three categories i.e. visual/ physical or hearing! >> > >> > On 15 December 2015 at 11:31, Umesha S E <umesha....@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > > Dear George, >> > > >> > > not all acid victims are disabled as per the definition under PWD act >> > > 1995. what about them? the present judgement is about them. for those >> > > who become disabled by the cause of acid attack, this judgement is >> > > redundant as they can claim reservation under existing law. >> > > >> > > Vashishth sir, >> > > >> > > why should they forego their share unless the government or the court >> > > itself increase the quota? >> > > >> > > Umesha S E >> > > >> > > >> > > On 12/14/15, George Abraham <geo...@eyeway.org> wrote: >> > > > Acid victims become disabled. The cause of disability is acid >> > > > attack >> > > thats >> > > > all. >> > > > >> > > > -----Original Message----- >> > > > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] >> > > > On >> > > Behalf >> > > > Of SC Vashishth >> > > > Sent: 14 December 2015 12:22 >> > > > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >> > > concerning >> > > > the disabled. >> > > > Subject: Re: [AI] Treat Acid victims as disabled :Supreme Court >> > > > >> > > > Dear Friends, >> > > > >> > > > On Monday i.e. 07th December 2015, the Hon'ble Supreme Court of >> > > > India >> > > > directed all states to treat Acid Survivors as disabled persons & >> > extend >> > > > job reservation and social welfare schemes. While it's good thought >> to >> > > > extend the benefits of this benevolent legislation to mainstream >> > > > and >> > > > empower acid survivors, will there be corresponding increase in the >> > %age >> > > of >> > > > reservation? Which disability group would give up their share ? >> > > > >> > > > The central law- The Persons with Disabilities (Equal >> > > > Opportunities, >> > > > Protection of Rights and Full Participation) Act 1995 provides for >> > > > reservation in jobs etc to the tune of 3% where 1% each is reserved >> for >> > > > Visually Impaired (both low vision and Blind), Orthopedic >> Disabilities >> > > > (including cerebral palsy) & Hearing Impaired. There are several >> other >> > > > categories defined in the definition of a person with disability in >> the >> > > Act >> > > > viz. Leprosy Cured, Mental Illness, Mental Retardation etc. but the >> > > > reservation is not extended to any other categories except the >> > > > above >> > > three. >> > > > The judgement is silent on the process of granting such reservation >> as >> > > the >> > > > law currently has no such provision. The direction in the last para >> is >> > : >> > > > >> > > > "Disposing of the present writ petition, we additionally direct all >> the >> > > > States and Union Territories to consider the plight of such victims >> and >> > > > take appropriate steps with regard to inclusion of their names >> > > > under >> > the >> > > > disability list." >> > > > >> > > > The Supreme Court judgement can be accessed here at link: Writ >> Petition >> > > > Civil No. 867 of 2013 titled Parivartan Kendra Versus Union of >> > > > India >> > and >> > > > Others >> > > > < >> > > >> > >> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9pA0kt0x8XwYnBPQUhTYmZkY2M/view?usp=shar >> > > > ing> >> > > > >> > > > Let us see how the States & UTs respond to this direction coming >> > > > from >> > > none >> > > > other than top court of the country. But one thing is certain, in >> > today's >> > > > scenario, no disability group would be willing to let go their >> > > > share! >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > On 10 December 2015 at 15:08, Amar Jain <amarjain2...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> > > > >> > > >> While I am in full support of proper rehabilitation of Acid attack >> > > >> survivors, but attaching them with a disability is over-judicial >> > > >> activism to my mind. >> > > >> >> > > >> The very basic premise on which disability works is inability of a >> > > >> bodily or intellectual or psychological sense to function to its >> > > >> fullest extent, which imposes certain limitation on the way one's >> life >> > > >> works, which may not be true in all cases of all acid attack >> > > >> survivors. >> > > >> >> > > >> I can rationalise with the Court to the extent that those cases >> where >> > > >> some disfigurement has happend might call for inclusion in the >> > > >> list >> of >> > > >> disability, but this kind of blanket observation does not justify >> its >> > > >> reasons to me. >> > > >> >> > > >> Regards, >> > > >> -- >> > > >> Amar Jain. >> > > >> Website: www.amarjain.com >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing >> > accessibility >> > > > of >> > > >> mobile phones / Tabs on: >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > > >> > >> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessin >> > > > dia.org.in >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> Search for old postings at: >> > > >> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >> > > >> >> > > >> To unsubscribe send a message to >> > > >> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >> > > >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> > > >> >> > > >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other >> changes, >> > > >> please visit the list home page at >> > > >> >> > > >> > >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> Disclaimer: >> > > >> 1. 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