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We have stretched this thread considerably. Now let us  keep it behind and move 
forward from the Kabil mania.
Firstly, this is a commercial venture.I don't think the producers had a mission 
to work on the awareness problem. As a bye product, it did some awareness drive.
  
For any main stream movie, we the audience have no say in how the story should 
progress and what shape it should take. Putting our 2 cents in the social media 
taking this movie on the back drop would certainly drive home our points. Here, 
we are almost talking to ourselves.

Regards
Harish Kotian

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 12:28 PM
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Subject: Re: [AI] Kabil

People are rewarding the efforts, financially, of course.
Cause indian audience is still foolish, as an honorable erstwhile SC judge had 
some time ago, pronounced.
The scene in question reinforces the stereotype of the blind as helpless and 
hapless lot.

Besides, tell me, which of the negative preconceptions about the blind movie 
breaks?
Surely, you don't believe blind can really engage in the streetfights Ritik 
engages in to eliminate the enemies!?
Smile?
Only silver lining  is independent living which movie depicts with a semblance 
of realism.
Otherwise, even meeting of the hero-heroine happens in a pre-determined 
matrimonial context, couldn't they have met in ordinary life and fallen in love 
like sighted protagonists?


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
avinash shahi
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 10:47 AM
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disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Kabil

There are countless ways of analyzing that sceen. I found the Rohan's decision 
to look for Supriya through a myke from the dais was a deliberate ploy of 
Sanjay Gupta and Rakesh Roshan. As Rohan started calling Supriya's name on the 
myke, The crowd became thoughtful. How's possible that a blind man can have 
girlfriend? and even a girlfriend of a same disability? then once she listens 
his voice and seeks help to reach on the stage to meet him, the crowd gets 
surprised. The movie-makers have done amazing research and their targeted 
audience is not only we who are the blind and enjoy our love lives with ease. 
But the highly educated non-blind Indians are averse to the idea of blind 
couple making up in a publick place. The movie hits the jack post with 
precision. And the people are rewarding the efforts.

On 2/7/17, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote:
> Making announcing over PA for a lost person is one thing, and the way 
> ritik weeps for SU on stage is too infantile, that too when they are 
> just separated in a crowded space in their own city with mobiles in 
> pocket and walking sticks in hand...
>
>
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> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
> Behalf Of Aruni Sharma
> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 9:25 AM
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> Subject: Re: [AI] Kabil
>
> I absolutely agree with George   It's almost like making announcement over
> public address system which is normal practice In a public place.
> Thanks and regards
> Aruni Sharma
>
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>
> Lucknow
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>> On 07-Feb-2017, at 7:28 AM, George Abraham <geo...@eyeway.org> wrote:
>>
>> Often, desperate situations call for desperate measures. It is easy 
>> to comment from the comfort of our homes. Besides, I don’t think it 
>> was begging. He was just calling for help. All of us tdo ask do 
>> request or call for help when we are pushed . Again people are different!
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
>> Behalf Of Ajay Minocha
>> Sent: 06 February 2017 22:51
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
>> concerning the disabled.
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Kabil
>>
>> I accept everything but I have better alternatives than begging to 
>> get on the stage and shouting my partner's name.
>>
>> On 2/6/17, George Abraham <geo...@eyeway.org> wrote:
>>> I saw Kabil yesterday. Overall, I liked the film. The story telling 
>>> was compelling though at times a little too violent. Like most 
>>> films, the Director has taken creative license to tell his story. I 
>>> was happy that the film depicted the blind person as being as human 
>>> as anyone else with emotions ability and aspirations. I do think 
>>> every blind person is wired different and hence brings to the table 
>>> different levels of ability. I am ok with the focus on smell and 
>>> hearing. I have met blind people with strong sense of smell , touch 
>>> and hearing. Also , we need to remember that Kabil is a commercial 
>>> venture and not a documentary. There could be inaccuracies.
>>> Erik Waheinmayer climb mountains, Dinesh Kaushal is an IT person, 
>>> while someone else is a journalist. All of them are blind but all of 
>>> them cannot be journalists or mountaineers or IT professionals. 
>>> Aptitudes are varied and Mr and Mrs Bhatnagar have their own wiring 
>>> and their own unique personalities. I am happy that an entertaining 
>>> story has been told and people of the country have had the 
>>> opportunity of focusing on aspects of a life with blindness at least 
>>> for the 2 hrs. The film did bring out the reality of the real 
>>> attitude of the World around us and the vulnerability of blind 
>>> individuals and blind couples. We certainly do live in a rough and 
>>> cruel World.
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
>>> Behalf Of Asudani, Rajesh
>>> Sent: 06 February 2017 11:44
>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
>>> concerning the disabled.
>>> Subject: [AI] Kabil
>>>
>>> So, finally, I watched Kabil, till the end…
>>>
>>> Till middle, it is realistic, but then fancy takes over, me thinks.
>>>
>>> We are not possessors of doggy sense of smell and batty sense of 
>>> hearing, to say the least.
>>>
>>> Initially also, scene of lost lovers in a crowded programme is 
>>> infantile.
>>>
>>> His doing-Su-Su always is also irritating a bit.
>>>
>>> Su’s Suicide is misogynistic, to say the least.
>>> Putting blindness apart,
>>> One thing, however, which film after film has highlighted and we 
>>> have grown apathetic to which, and which is damn serious, is the 
>>> utter haplessness of a layperson before our investigative and 
>>> adjudicative machinery and there being absolutely no hope from them 
>>> to get any semblance of justice.
>>>
>>> Either Modi government should censor all such depictions, or if we 
>>> have any sense of pride in our nationhood and take our constitution 
>>> even a bit seriously, we should rectify and overhaul our systems.
>>>
>>>
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