All Yesterday, the list was down for most part of the day, it could not cope up with the traffic load.
Quite a number had updated their status on the list which resulted in breach of the traffic allowed. I have shifted this thread on the old domain, if continued would be there and the load would get divided. To Answer George, we ought to file in many HC as the issue is indeed pressing and considerable effort is required to bring about a change. We need to highlight that the problem is indeed huge and an early intervention is required. We also need to garner support from all NGO's and this is not 1 NGO issue and all need to chip in. A good number of us have contacts in the media and we need to put our might. Also, we should be guarded that we don't go oberboard and focus on the issue on hand. Harish. -----Original Message----- From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of George Abraham via Ai Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 3:41 PM To: 'Share, empower &Enrich' <a...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in> Cc: George Abraham <geo...@eyeway.org> Subject: [DKIM Failure] Re: [Ai] Representation to RBI for accessible Indian Currency, an update on meeting with RBI I think we should file cases in every High Court of the Nation. The Prime Minister and his Govt has to recognize that this is a problem, a real problem. A problem faced by people who are blind in every State of the country. Again it is a case of multiple voices from across India. More people (judges) are compelled to deliberate on the issue. This will give the issue a Nation wide feel. -----Original Message----- From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of Kanchan Pamnani via Ai Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 2:28 PM To: 'Share, empower &Enrich' Cc: Kanchan Pamnani Subject: Re: [Ai] Representation to RBI for accessible Indian Currency, an update on meeting with RBI George NAB I had filed a case prior to the new notes and the case is still pending. Thinking about intervening but need to build up support and lots of material. Vishal is leading this initiative for BGFI and we are and have to support it. Will require your active participation when the campaign builds up. Shireen-Dialogue has been happening for 8 years since I have been involved. Based on Asif's email dialogue has been happening for more than 10 years. RBI is also consulting the right people/organisations but .... At the meeting held on 19th Sept I discovered that the current team had not read the notes prepared by the earlier officials nor had they bothered to read the replies they had received from NGOS. Luckily I had a lot of the material. So consulting is a must but listening and implementing the suggestions is crucial. Therefore the need for this fight. Vasu this fight has to be every day not every month. We don’t have time. The difference between the new Rs. 50 note and theRs. 200 note is very little. The probable Rs. 100 note is going to be in between these 2. We have a disaster in the making. It is too serious a matter for us not to work on this one issue till we win. RBI officials are very polite and helpful and very sensitive to our needs but on the ground the reality is simple -we have a major problem and one that will continue for a long time unless we rise for our rights. Kanchan -----Original Message----- From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of George Abraham via Ai Sent: 22 September 2017 13:40 To: 'Share, empower &Enrich' Cc: George Abraham Subject: Re: [Ai] Representation to RBI for accessible Indian Currency, an update on meeting with RBI Do you think we should file a case with the Court? -----Original Message----- From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of Ketan Kothari via Ai Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 12:08 PM To: Share, empower &Enrich Cc: Ketan Kothari Subject: Re: [Ai] Representation to RBI for accessible Indian Currency, an update on meeting with RBI Dear Friends, Extremely good work. I remember having participated in at least 2 meetings of this nature. Unfortunately, not much has yielded. Also, the problem of coins is equally challenging and is getting worse. Actually, I feel that we must take up this issue with the minister of finance as at a certain level, RBI is also bound by executive orders. With best wishes, Ketan On 9/20/17, Blind Graduates' Forum of India (BGFI) via Ai <a...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in> wrote: > Hi all, > > Here is a brief update on our meeting with RBI authorities. > We had Kanchan Pamnani, Suhas Karnik, Amar Jain and myself Vishal > Kumar Jain attending the meeting. First of all thanks a lot for all > those who have supported with a lot of ground work and those who wrote > to the authorities which enabled us have this meeting in the first > place. > > We discussed on each of the points highlighted in the representation. > The RBI team was relatively new to the subject and unfortunately they > were not updated with earlier conversations on it. Overall it was a > much needed discussion and the team was receptive to listen to our > suggestions. However the team avoided making any commitments. Below > are the key highlights: > 1.The longest conversation was on size variation which remains a > major issue. If RBI goes ahead with their plan, the size variation of > notes will come down from 10mm to around 4mm with the introduction of > new Rs. 100, Rs. 20 and Rs. 10 notes. More over the width of all the > notes is expected to be the same (66mm). This will make it close to > impossible for us to identify the notes. While the team understood our > concerns, they expressed their own challenge of maintaining variation > due to reduction in overall size of the notes. > 2.The team was taken aback to understand that the bleed line and > tactile markings are not perceivable. They accepted the fact and > confirmed to prioritize on finding a solution to make it perceivable. > They also expressed technical challenges in making it happen. > 3.Inputs on low vision friendly features was welcomed and they plan > to continue with contrast color, color variation, font size, etc. > 4.Fake notes issue was acknowledge and they thought of focusing on > perceptible tactile markings and keeping the texture of notes > different from normal paper. > 5.The team confirmed to pass on inputs related to issues other than > currency notes to relevant departments and discussion on accessible > websites and apps was in brief. > 6.Most importantly we discovered that RBI had interactions with NGOs > and teams like us in the past. However the inputs and suggestions have > not been valued given the fact they have gone ahead with lower size > variation and unperceivable tactile markings in the new notes. > > So on the whole the meeting was productive in sensitizing the team on > our needs. At the same time it doesn’t assure of our issues getting > sufficiently addressed any time soon. Unless we intensify our voice > and raise the issue on all possible forums, we will end up having > notes with very little size variation making it highly inaccessible. > We will continue our effort on this. However we would need more active > involvement from each of you and your network to really get them to > act on our suggestions. > > Thanks and regards, > Team BGFI. > > > > On 9/18/17, Blind Graduates' Forum of India (BGFI) > <contact.b...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Dear all, >> >> Please find below the representation that we intend to share and >> discuss with RBI during our meeting in person. Have incorporate >> recommendations considering short term and long term needs of persons >> with visual impairment. The meeting is tomorrow, so please share your >> feedback if any by today night. >> >> --- >> >> To >> Governor >> Reserve Bank of India >> Mumbai. >> Subject: Representation to make Indian Currency notes easily >> identifiable for the blind citizens >> >> Respected sir, >> Blind Graduates Forum of India brings to your kind notice the issue >> of difficult-to-use Indian currency notes. We, the blind citizens >> face some genuine inconveniences in identifying various currency >> notes in circulation including the newly introduced ones. This has >> made daily living very difficult and has led to direct negative >> impact on livelihood for blind individuals across the country. >> >> Kindly consider the following recommendations to make Indian Currency >> accessible for the blind: >> 1.Define Indian Currency Accessibility Guidelines to be mandatorily >> factored in every new release of notes and coins. >> 2.Mandate adoption of available accessibility guidelines for mobile >> apps and websites meant for making financial transactions. >> Communicate the guidelines extensively to all the stakeholders. >> 3.Use both length and width of the notes to differentiate between >> each of the notes. The length of the new Rs. 2000, Rs. 500, Rs. 200 >> and Rs. 50 is the same. >> 4.Categorize notes into two sets in terms of sizes, one for lower >> denominations and the other for higher denominations. Differentiate >> each set with a minimum of 10mm in length. >> 5.Maintain variation of at least 10mm in width between every note, >> for both lower and higher denominations. For instance the variation >> in length between Rs. 200 and Rs. 500 is just 4mm which is extremely >> difficult to differentiate. >> 6.Incorporate easily perceptible tactile marking, embossed letters >> and / or bleed lines. These features should not fade away with use >> and should be very easy to feel. The bleed lines newly introduced in >> the new Rs. 2000 and Rs. 500 notes are absolutely not perceivable and >> are of no help. >> 7.Phase out all the new notes including Rs. 50, Rs. 200, Rs. 500 and >> Rs. 2000 notes on priority as its size conflict with the old Rs. 10 >> and Rs. 20. This will be easier as the number of new notes under >> circulation are relatively lower. >> 8.Use different shapes or curved edges for both notes and coins to >> differentiate. >> 9.Use very distinct colors for people with low vision to identify. >> The new notes released recently have been well differentiated by >> colors. We appreciate and welcome the change incorporated. >> 10.Adopt contrast colors of the note and of the figures highlighting >> the denomination. >> 11.Use large font size for the figures highlighting the denominations. >> 12.The texture of the notes should be different from normal paper. >> Maintain the variation in texture in case any other material like >> plastic is used in future. >> 13.Involve sufficient number of representative sample of blind >> individuals for testing of prototype and final version of notes >> before every release. >> 14.Review Indian Currency Accessibility guidelines every five years >> and factor changes in material, technology, user feedback, market >> trends and best practices globally. >> > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking > of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its > veracity; > > 2. 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