Hi,
 havent dealt with nfb before so it is good to know.
My question is does AICB have anything similar? for the orbit reader they
are providing? that is a monthly program.


On 9 July 2018 at 12:57, Aman Preet Singh <aps32...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi friends! Anyone who is thinking about to purchase Braille me I would
> like to suggest anybody that instead of Braille me you should go for Orbit
> reader 20. No doubt it's expensive than braile me but it has many more
> features then Braille me. It has duxbury system in built that is why it can
> read any Indian language available in India. Customer support is not
> available of Braille me but Orbit reader Customer services or dealers are
> available all over in India. There are more differents in both Braille
> displays. If you want to purchase Orbit reader 20 I would like to suggest
> that you should purchase the orbit reader from the national Federation of
> the blind because there this is a very easiest way for payment. Here Orbit
> reader is available in the minimum payment of RS. 29500 at the worth of
> 2000 rupees every month. For more info please contact National Federation
> Of The Blind India. With kind regards: Aman Preet Singh. mobile no:
> 9878939098.
>
> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018, 12:24 PM Nirmal Verma <nirmalkat...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Dear Srinivas
> >
> > We must understand that no company is doing any charity. They are earning
> > money. NGO in our sector are already overburdened with the work. Some of
> > them are distributing the device in their initial days which is good but
> > that should not become a trend.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8 July 2018 at 23:42, Srinivasu Chakravarthula <li...@srinivasu.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Since efforts are being made by organizations like Saksham, AICB etc.,
> > how
> > > about integrating customer support with National Eyeway Help Desk? In
> > fact,
> > > this could become platform for all assistive technology vendors.
> > > Thanks,
> > > Vasu
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Srinivasu Chakravarthula - Twitter: http://twitter.com/CSrinivasu/
> > > Website: http://www.srinivasu.org | http://serveominclusion.com
> > >
> > > Let's create an inclusive web!
> > >
> > > Lead Accessibility Consultant, Informatica
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 11:16 AM, Nirmal Verma <nirmalkat...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > True Anjali. The after sales service is not good. Before buying
> please
> > > > check with the sellers the follwoing points
> > > >
> > > > 1. who will provide the after sales?
> > > >
> > > > 2. is the extension of warranty available?
> > > >
> > > > 3. how long will the company provide the parts of the product? I am
> > > writing
> > > > this because some day the company might tell you that supplies from
> > china
> > > > has stopped coming so we cant provide repairs to the device.
> > > >
> > > > 4. does the company have customer care service? one person picking
> the
> > > call
> > > > is not at all the customer care. he can switch off the phone anytime
> > and
> > > > move over to his next assignment.
> > > >
> > > > 5. just to have clarity please ask them who all tested the product.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Nirmal
> > > >
> > > > On 8 July 2018 at 19:07, anjali Anand <anjaliana...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The bigest problem is with regard to after sale service. these
> > > > > manufacturers and dealers especially Indian ones have a very poor
> > > > > record on this count. They'll call you hundred times till they sell
> > > > > the product but when the sale is done, they are very indifferent in
> > > > > answering your quaries.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 7/7/18, john clayton <nishantra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Here is a link to their website.
> > > > > > http://innovisiontech.co/brailleme/
> > > > > > hth.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 7 July 2018 at 19:21, srinivas bangalore_11 <
> > > > > > srinivas.bangalor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Hi team,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> If anyone has, Kindly provide the demo link to know more details
> > > about
> > > > > >> braile me.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On 7/7/18, Aman Preet Singh <aps32...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >> > Hi! My mobile number is: 9878939098.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > On Sat, Jul 7, 2018, 1:29 PM john clayton <
> > nishantra...@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >> patients, friend.
> > > > > >> >> To answer your question, you can contact Innovision or
> > Prathamesh
> > > > if
> > > > > >> >> you
> > > > > >> >> would like to purchase the BrailleMe.
> > > > > >> >> If you lookover this topic you should be able to get their
> > > contact
> > > > > info
> > > > > >> >> and
> > > > > >> >> the like.
> > > > > >> >>
> > > > > >> >> From what I remember when the brailleMe came out, it was
> around
> > > 25k
> > > > > >> >> plus
> > > > > >> >> gst, so around 26130 or there abouts.
> > > > > >> >> But if you contact any of them 2, you ought to be able to
> get a
> > > > > price.
> > > > > >> >> hth.
> > > > > >> >>
> > > > > >> >> On 7 July 2018 at 12:38, Aman Preet Singh <
> aps32...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >> >>
> > > > > >> >> > Hi friends! I had asked a question yesterday about
> > Brailleme. I
> > > > > would
> > > > > >> >> like
> > > > > >> >> > to purchase brailleme and from where can I purchase
> Brailleme
> > > and
> > > > > how
> > > > > >> >> much
> > > > > >> >> > cost of this gadget? But nobody answered my question yet.
> > With
> > > > kind
> > > > > >> >> > regards: Aman Preet Singh
> > > > > >> >> >
> > > > > >> >> > On Fri, Jul 6, 2018, 8:18 PM Aman Preet Singh <
> > > > aps32...@gmail.com>
> > > > > >> >> wrote:
> > > > > >> >> >
> > > > > >> >> > > hi friends! Could you please tell me how much cost of
> this
> > > > > >> affordable
> > > > > >> >> > > Braille display Braille me, and from where can I purchase
> > it?
> > > > If
> > > > > >> >> possible
> > > > > >> >> > > please provide phone number and address where we can
> > purchase
> > > > > >> >> Brailleme.
> > > > > >> >> > >
> > > > > >> >> > > On Fri, Jul 6, 2018, 7:59 PM john clayton <
> > > > > nishantra...@gmail.com>
> > > > > >> >> > wrote:
> > > > > >> >> > >
> > > > > >> >> > >> Hi,
> > > > > >> >> > >>  Thank you for getting back to me and taking my feedback
> > > into
> > > > > >> >> > >> consideration
> > > > > >> >> > >> The new updates look really great!
> > > > > >> >> > >> I suppose these are the ones on sale now by you guys? or
> > is
> > > it
> > > > > >> just a
> > > > > >> >> > >> prototype of a v2.0
> > > > > >> >> > >>
> > > > > >> >> > >> The new updated features really make brailleme a good
> > device
> > > > > and I
> > > > > >> >> shall
> > > > > >> >> > >> be
> > > > > >> >> > >> sharing the update with the people at audiogames.net
> > forums
> > > > > sinse
> > > > > >> we
> > > > > >> >> > have
> > > > > >> >> > >> had conversations about the brailleme before.
> > > > > >> >> > >> I will get in touch about the demo soon.
> > > > > >> >> > >> Thanks!
> > > > > >> >> > >>
> > > > > >> >> > >> On 6 July 2018 at 01:45, Innovision <
> > i...@innovisiontech.co
> > > >
> > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > >> >> > >>
> > > > > >> >> > >> > Hi Nishant
> > > > > >> >> > >> >
> > > > > >> >> > >> > Greetings from Innovision!
> > > > > >> >> > >> >
> > > > > >> >> > >> > Its a pleasure to hear from you again following our
> > > > > interaction
> > > > > >> in
> > > > > >> >> > >> January
> > > > > >> >> > >> > this year. We at Innovision had taken your feedback
> > > > regarding
> > > > > >> file
> > > > > >> >> > size
> > > > > >> >> > >> > limitation and root folder sub directories into
> > > > consideration.
> > > > > >> >> > >> > We
> > > > > >> >> are
> > > > > >> >> > >> happy
> > > > > >> >> > >> > to share that the updated version of BrailleMe has
> > > resolved
> > > > > both
> > > > > >> of
> > > > > >> >> > >> these
> > > > > >> >> > >> > issues. Please find below a list of added
> functionality
> > in
> > > > > >> >> > >> > BrailleMe
> > > > > >> >> > >> > version 2.
> > > > > >> >> > >> >
> > > > > >> >> > >> > Hardware modifications:
> > > > > >> >> > >> >
> > > > > >> >> > >> > - USB based Firmware upgrade feature added
> > > > > >> >> > >> > - Increased memory for processing
> > > > > >> >> > >> > - Faster SD card support (Helps in reading and writing
> > > large
> > > > > >> files)
> > > > > >> >> > >> > - Improved carrying case based on user inputs
> > > > > >> >> > >> > - Improved device foots to avoid slipping on surfaces
> > > > > >> >> > >> > - Decreased the size of the charger (now wall mounted)
> > > > > >> >> > >> > - Added chip to support USB pen drives in the future
> > > > > >> >> > >> >
> > > > > >> >> > >> > Software modifications:
> > > > > >> >> > >> >
> > > > > >> >> > >> > - Read mode: Ability to open TXT files of unlimited
> size
> > > in
> > > > > >> grade 1
> > > > > >> >> > and
> > > > > >> >> > >> > grade 2
> > > > > >> >> > >> > - Write mode: Increased file capacity to 100kB with
> > grade
> > > 1
> > > > > and
> > > > > >> >> grade
> > > > > >> >> > 2
> > > > > >> >> > >> > switching
> > > > > >> >> > >> > - Save as braille: In certain languages where the back
> > > > > >> translation
> > > > > >> >> is
> > > > > >> >> > >> not
> > > > > >> >> > >> > good, the user can save the file as a braille file.
> This
> > > > will
> > > > > >> >> > >> > not
> > > > > >> >> > create
> > > > > >> >> > >> > any discrepancy in what the user reads and writes.
> These
> > > > > braille
> > > > > >> >> files
> > > > > >> >> > >> can
> > > > > >> >> > >> > be edited and can be 100kB in size.
> > > > > >> >> > >> > - iOS and Android support: Both OSes are now
> supported.
> > > > > >> >> > >> > - Refined braille tables for English and regional
> Indian
> > > > > >> languages
> > > > > >> >> > >> > - Revamped command table to adhere to legacy commands
> > > > > >> >> > >> >
> > > > > >> >> > >> > The following features are currently under development
> > and
> > > > are
> > > > > >> >> > expected
> > > > > >> >> > >> to
> > > > > >> >> > >> > be released by end of July (currently being beta
> tested)
> > > > > >> >> > >> >
> > > > > >> >> > >> > - Word wrap
> > > > > >> >> > >> > - Cut-copy-paste
> > > > > >> >> > >> > - context based quick Command guide
> > > > > >> >> > >> > - Folder options
> > > > > >> >> > >> >
> > > > > >> >> > >> > In case of any additional queries please let us know.
> We
> > > > would
> > > > > >> >> > >> > be
> > > > > >> >> keen
> > > > > >> >> > >> to
> > > > > >> >> > >> > schedule a demo interaction at the earliest.
> > > > > >> >> > >> >
> > > > > >> >> > >> > Regards
> > > > > >> >> > >> > Team Innovision
> > > > > >> >> > >> >
> > > > > >> >> > >> >
> > > > > >> >> > >> > On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 6:04 PM, john clayton <
> > > > > >> >> nishantra...@gmail.com>
> > > > > >> >> > >> > wrote:
> > > > > >> >> > >> >
> > > > > >> >> > >> >> Hi,
> > > > > >> >> > >> >>  Thank you Prathamesh for willing to show those of us
> > > > > >> interested a
> > > > > >> >> > >> demo of
> > > > > >> >> > >> >> the BrailleMe.
> > > > > >> >> > >> >>  I am interested in a braille display myself, as I
> > read a
> > > > lot
> > > > > >> and
> > > > > >> >> if
> > > > > >> >> > I
> > > > > >> >> > >> >> were
> > > > > >> >> > >> >> to actually read as aposed to listening (even though
> I
> > > love
> > > > > >> >> > eloquence)
> > > > > >> >> > >> my
> > > > > >> >> > >> >> spellings would improve a lot, not to mention
> > programming
> > > > > would
> > > > > >> be
> > > > > >> >> a
> > > > > >> >> > >> tad
> > > > > >> >> > >> >> bit easier (python anyone?)
> > > > > >> >> > >> >> So I would like to test both the orbit reader and the
> > > > > braillme.
> > > > > >> >> > >> >> If anyone here in mumbai has a orbit reader and would
> > be
> > > > > >> >> > >> >> willing
> > > > > >> >> > >> >> to
> > > > > >> >> > >> demo
> > > > > >> >> > >> >> it
> > > > > >> >> > >> >> for me, please let me know. I will be greatful, like
> a
> > > lot
> > > > =)
> > > > > >> >> > >> >>
> > > > > >> >> > >> >> Obviously living in india we only have 2 choices well
> > at
> > > > > least
> > > > > >> >> > >> >> I
> > > > > >> >> only
> > > > > >> >> > >> have
> > > > > >> >> > >> >> 2 choices either the orbit reader or the BrailleMe
> > > > > >> >> > >> >> The units of the orbit reader are limited much like
> > > Xiaomi
> > > > > >> >> > >> >> redmi
> > > > > >> >> > note 5
> > > > > >> >> > >> >> pro
> > > > > >> >> > >> >> series, its a better than good device at the price
> but
> > > its
> > > > > the
> > > > > >> >> > >> >> kind
> > > > > >> >> > of
> > > > > >> >> > >> a
> > > > > >> >> > >> >> device which is get while you can and as soon as you
> > can.
> > > > > >> >> > >> >> The major issue I have with the braille me is the
> 40kb
> > > file
> > > > > >> limit,
> > > > > >> >> > and
> > > > > >> >> > >> my
> > > > > >> >> > >> >> question is are the guys those who have developed the
> > > > > BrailleMe
> > > > > >> >> > >> willing to
> > > > > >> >> > >> >> do something about that in an future update? or its
> not
> > > > > >> >> > >> >> possible
> > > > > >> >> > >> >> at
> > > > > >> >> > >> all?
> > > > > >> >> > >> >> I did ask them, but did not get any response, (rather
> > > > tipicle
> > > > > >> >> > >> >> of
> > > > > >> >> the
> > > > > >> >> > >> >> organizations that I have contacted) although to be
> > fare
> > > it
> > > > > was
> > > > > >> >> > during
> > > > > >> >> > >> >> their launch so my mail could have gotten lost in all
> > the
> > > > > >> trafic.
> > > > > >> >> > >> >> Hope you all are having a good day,
> > > > > >> >> > >> >>
> > > > > >> >> > >> >> On 5 July 2018 at 15:36, Prathamesh Bendre <
> > > > > >> >> > >> prathamesh18.ben...@gmail.com
> > > > > >> >> > >> >> >
> > > > > >> >> > >> >> wrote:
> > > > > >> >> > >> >>
> > > > > >> >> > >> >> > Dear AccessIndians,
> > > > > >> >> > >> >> > Greetings from Prathamesh!
> > > > > >> >> > >> >> > Yesterday I posted on the mailing list about
> > BrailleMe,
> > > > the
> > > > > >> >> world’s
> > > > > >> >> > >> >> > most affordable refreshable Braille display. I am
> > happy
> > > > to
> > > > > >> see a
> > > > > >> >> > >> great
> > > > > >> >> > >> >> > response from all of you, in terms of asking
> queries,
> > > > > placing
> > > > > >> >> > orders
> > > > > >> >> > >> >> > and seeking clarifications on doubts. I also saw
> that
> > > > some
> > > > > of
> > > > > >> >> > >> >> > the
> > > > > >> >> > >> >> > members would want to have a demonstration of the
> > > device.
> > > > > >> After
> > > > > >> >> > all,
> > > > > >> >> > >> >> > if you get to experience what BrailleMe has to
> offer
> > by
> > > > > >> >> > >> >> > yourself,
> > > > > >> >> > >> >> > there is nothing like it. So, I would like to tell
> > all
> > > of
> > > > > the
> > > > > >> >> > members
> > > > > >> >> > >> >> > that if anyone of you is based in Mumbai, and want
> to
> > > > fix a
> > > > > >> >> meeting
> > > > > >> >> > >> >> > for a demo session, feel free to get in touch. You
> > can
> > > > drop
> > > > > >> >> > >> >> > me
> > > > > >> >> > >> >> > an
> > > > > >> >> > >> >> > E-mail on prathamesh18.ben...@gmail.com
> > > > > >> >> > >> >> > Or, you can also call me on 09757033772
> > > > > >> >> > >> >> > Looking forward to answer your queries
> > > > > >> >> > >> >> > Kind regards
> > > > > >> >> > >> >> > Prathamesh
> > > > > >> >> > >> >> >
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