Hi Turab,

Matching matching challenges!
In addition to all what has been said so far, below are a few suggestions:

1. Learn to find common interests. It could be FIFA for you, and it is 
definitely BudWeiser for me!

2. Learn to develop human abilities like sense of humour and don’t just focus 
too much on brain. Means try to develop as many qualities as possible.

3. Try to be on top of trends, knowledge of accessories, clothing, Hollywood, 
among others.

4. Engaging with juniors is easier than with seniors.

Your interpersonal skills have to be of top notch quality. And if nothing else 
works, then be little spoiled.

Regards,
Amar Jain

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> On 11-Jul-2018, at 3:58 PM, turab chimthanawala <turab...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Rahul,
> Thanks for your reply.
> Great elucidation.
> Well, as regards your point of screen reader being a barrier to
> meaningful interaction, in my present work schedule, my reliance on a
> personal companion to help me navigate the court becomes a hurdle to
> building good relationships: as I often walk  slightly a part from the
> team: majority of the chatter takes place while running from one court
> room to another.
> Yes, I often do fall in the trap of the confirmation bias labelling my
> disability for all not going for me; which is often not true. Hope to
> change that mindset.
> 
> Another concern is the excessive protectionist attitude of colleagues
> say for instance, being reluctant to take us to the canteen,
> presumably to save us of the trouble of walking down three floors or
> forcing us to take the elevator while they walk down. This attitude
> may take various other forms.
> Generally, the initial period in a new setting is very lonely and
> difficult. After a while, one does get integrated to an extent.
> Any specific tips you might have followed in your multiple internships
> etc. to make this initial difficult period as short as possible?
> Also, any other thoughts?
> Best
> Turab
> 
>> On 7/10/18, Rahul Bajaj <rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I think cultivating greater  independence in a phased manner is important in
>> terms of having greater control over one's movements. This is also a
>> function of the nature of one's personality - introversion and disability do
>> not make for a good combination. One of the biggest obstacles is that you
>> cannot seek people out for a convo; it is contingent upon them reaching out
>> to you.
>> It may often be the case that people are passing by and you don't know who
>> they are, so you lose out on the opportunity to strike up a conversation.
>> People may sometimes try talking to you or may be having a conversation that
>> you're not able to participate in because your screen reading software
>> cancels out all noise. You cannot see what is happening, so it is not the
>> same as someone listening to music.
>> 
>> I find that we sometimes also fall into the trap of confirmation bias
>> wherein we interpret events around us as being attributable to our
>> disability when they are actually not. I am not saying that you are doing
>> this; this is something I often find myself doing inadvertently.
>> 
>> That said, there are some who are very inclusive and interested in learning
>> more about how you do things, in light of your disability. This may itself
>> serve as the springboard for an engaging conversation.
>> 
>> 
>> Best,
>> RahulSent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 9, 2018, at 9:19 AM, turab chimthanawala <turab...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Geeta Ma'am and Tilak
>>> Thanks a lot for your inputs
>>> Geeta Ma'am as to your suggestions.
>>> 1. In the office where I worked, there was no separate lunch bar:
>>> People would just gather around a work table in their small groups
>>> with their tiffins. Hence, I found it difficult to break into a group.
>>> As to your broader point, yes, I am reasonably and strive to be more
>>> independent in office. In court as we have to run from one court room
>>> to another, hence I always have my driver to accompany, hence not
>>> being dependent on other colleagues. In fact. having a personal
>>> assistant is sort of a double edged sword in the sense it separates me
>>> from the other group.
>>> 2. I certainly endeavour to create relationships and not need based
>>> interactions. Certainly I will introspect and work more on this.
>>> 3. Our office is quite small and hence I don't think there would be a
>>> lot of inclination towards a Disability awareness programme.
>>> Nevertheless this is an excellent suggestion for the future.
>>> Tilak as to your inputs.
>>> 1. It is a great idea to be talkative and partake in the general
>>> discussion. However, the reason holding me back is that we can't often
>>> see what people are doing, I mean whether they are working, taking a
>>> break etc. I am concerned of interrupting and disturbing at the wrong
>>> time.
>>> 2. Being not dependent on a single colleague is a great point. I often
>>> cling on to one person. Surely hope to change this.
>>> 3. My mobility is reasonably good. Only that I struggle in highly
>>> populated public places.
>>> 4. I don't understand how using public transport would help in
>>> building good relationships at the workplace.
>>> Eagerly await your follow up.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 7/9/18, Geetha Shamanna <geethas2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi Turab,
>>>> 
>>>> As a blind person trying to fit in, one should bear in mind the
>>>> following:
>>>> 1. It is essential to be as independent as possible. Ensure that you
>>>> learn
>>>> your way around the office as well as the route to the canteen, so that
>>>> you
>>>> don't rely on colleagues to go for lunch or tea with you. If they see
>>>> you
>>>> managing these things independently, they are more likely to invite you
>>>> to
>>>> go with them for lunch or tea, than in a situation where they feel
>>>> obliged
>>>> to take you along every day. Be comfortable going for lunch or tea on
>>>> your
>>>> own, as people can be busy with their own deadlines in offices.
>>>> 2. It is easier to have conversations as well as a good relationship
>>>> with
>>>> colleagues which could even turn into friendships if your approach is
>>>> not
>>>> need-based. Approach them just for a conversation, rather than to get
>>>> them
>>>> to do something for you. While as a blind person one needs help at the
>>>> workplace from time to time, it is important not to have need-based
>>>> relationships with colleagues.
>>>> 3. Suggest to your manager that you can provide disability awareness
>>>> training to your colleagues.
>>>> My previous employer had arranged for all my team members to have
>>>> disability
>>>> awareness training before I joined the team, and this had a remarkable
>>>> impact on how they behaved with me.
>>>> 
>>>> Geetha
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of turab chimthanawala
>>>> Sent: 08 July 2018 06:23
>>>> To: accessindia
>>>> Subject: [AI] Ai Partaking in informal groups/ activities at the
>>>> workplace
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> Hope this message finds you well.
>>>> While over the years I have come a long way in making friends with
>>>> blindness and hence built a good social network. I am comfortable in
>>>> most settings and even don't mind questions on  my disability.
>>>> However, I have found it difficult to fully absorb in informal groups/
>>>> activities at office. This may range from hjoining in for lunch to
>>>> going down for tea in the court canteen to going for outings and to
>>>> simply joining in jokes while working. I get the necessary support/
>>>> cooperation to do my work but I believe offices are beyond just work.
>>>> I understand that due to disability people are not best equipped to
>>>> understand our needs and problems and that we have to take the first
>>>> step, but to what extent! I mean I generally find it difficult to gage
>>>> people's expressions and hence am slightly circumspect in the
>>>> beginning. At a recent internship at a huge firm with about 100
>>>> professionals I was lonely most of the time save for a colleague, now
>>>> a close friend. To the  extent that when she would be absent, the
>>>> others would never invite me for lunch. It was only after a month that
>>>> others became warm.
>>>> Currently I am working with an Advocate. Here as well despite knowing
>>>> me (as I interned earlier), a colleague personally invited all but me
>>>> to his house. Even here there is a senior who is warm but owing to
>>>> personal commitments she is quite irregular and hence, except for work
>>>> related talk I am mostly left alone.
>>>> With most humility I would point out that I am a very warm person and
>>>> many have said that they enjoy my company. But due to some reason I am
>>>> left out of most informal activities at office.
>>>> Eagerly await others' experiences/ inputs on the same.
>>>> Thanking you
>>>> Best
>>>> Turab
>>>> 
>>>> 
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