This discussion reminds me of another personal incident. I made tomato rice a couple of years ago to treat my friends. So the discussion of eating with hands came-up at the time of dinner and I mentioned that besides comfort it also had it's own pleasure. To demonstrate this statement I asked her to eat her with spoon the first and hands the following day. She admitted that the later was more enriching and pleasurable than the former. In fact she eats rice only with hands after that. Although unintentional, Indian currency and the eating systems are some of those very few available institutional practices that are friendly towards visually challenged.
Vetri. ----- Original Message ----- From: Subramani L To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 12:12 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Using spoons, forks, knives and other such cutleries Hai Vetri and others: Actually, part of my media activity involves attending press conferences usually followed by lunch in five star hotels. Though I use spoons and forks quite sparingly, I often had problems eating roties with western style cutleries and have even asked the attendants if anyone in the hall used forks or spoons to eat them. Usually the answer was no. The problem is, you can't eat roties just like that --you have to eat them with the side-dishes which means using fingers is the best way. Also, I often dread eating desserts for the simple reason that most of them are very fluid and can fly away from the spoon in an instant. It's true that most of us expect our environs to be barrier free, but the ceramic plate on which they serve the dessert can have a barrier or a boundary that may help us lift the stuff and eat comfortably. As vetri said use of cutleries often depend on an individual's comfort levels and where it is strictly expected of us, I think we should use, though we should be careful in what we eat. Subramani -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 12:20 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AI] Using spoons, forks, knives and other such cutleries I have to say that this situation of Imran really reminded me of my memory five years back. It's totally up to the individual, but in certain circumstances we do have to think of our surroundings as well. So here are my tips: 1. Whether you want to eat with your hands or with other tools are based on what you eat. For example, it is normal to eat certain kinds of food with both the hands and you don't have to use tools even if they are given to you. 2. Always it's a good idea to let your friends know that your experience with these kind of eating tools is new. 3. It's a good idea to practice yourself in your room privately. 4. When you are presented with a variety of cutleries, choose the best that you are comfortable in using. 5. Since European/American food items involve so much of external dressing politely ask your friend to help you out with that. 6. Get an overview of your plate. Like what are the items and where exactly they are located and so on. Perhaps your friends can describe them to you. 7. Locate individual pieces by slowly using your tools. 8. If you are using forks to grab something, locate the individual Pease and genteelly insert your fork and grab it slowly. You will eventually know whether the Pease are sticking to the fork or not. 9. Sometimes those Pease can fall down on your plate, but there is nothing to be embarrassed and it can actually happen with everyone else. 10. Sometimes you do have to touch them with your fingers slightly, but there is nothing wrong in that. 11. Last but not the least; try to put something in your lap like a cloth. These are just general tips, but things can vary based on circumstances. O yes! Since you specifically mentioned noodles, here is a tip: After they are properly dressed, use your fork to grab them and while still in your plate role it slight in your fingers to make sure that you are actually able to grab them. There are millions of visually impaired in these who survived. If they did, then we can too! Best, Vetri. On 13/12/2007, Sanjay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In my opinion, we need spoons only to eat ice creams. I always inform my > friends that I don't prefer spoon fork etc. Since my habit is to wash mouth > after eating something I find no difficulty in washing hands too. > Therefore, I disregard those eating tools. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Vedprakash Sharma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 8:43 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] Using spoons, forks, knives and other such cutleries > > > > for a totally blind person, it certainly is a problem. but the chinese > > food > > accept choupsey, can be managed easily. i use fork to eat noodles but > > don't > > use the knives to cut it short. many other people don't, too. Massala > > Dossa > > is also a problem. but other varieties of it work very well. I think, the > > main thing is, if one follows the basics of table manners, these things > > hardly matter. many mates have some or the other habit which some times is > > not tollerable. but one has to accept friends in totality and not in > > selectively. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Syed Imran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 7:37 AM > > Subject: [AI] Using spoons, forks, knives and other such cutleries > > > > > >> Hi > >> > >> In fact, today's incident influenced me to write this on access India. It > >> was somewhat hillarious, somewhat embarrassing > >> After Christmas celebration in our college, I went to have lunch in our > >> college caffeteria. Usually I bring my lunch box to college, but today I > >> just forgot it at home. So, I and some of my friends went to caffeteria > >> along with our Economics ma'm. Sitting on a seat in front of a circular > >> granite table, I childishly said "noodles", when my friends asked me what > >> I wanted to have. I gave the money to my friend, and he brought me a > >> plate > >> of noodles. > >> It contained two disposable plastic forks, and boy, I thought this time I > >> am caught! "No, not this time," I said to myself, "I somehow ought to > >> give > >> my best shot, best impression! and its going to work, somehow its going > >> to > >> work.". After thus assuring myself, I started on my own. I'm not going to > >> narrate what happened then, but I ended up lying them that the food was > >> not tasty and I then returned to classroom. > >> First of all, it was embarrassing to discuss any kind of issue like this > >> on the list, but I have overcome such embarrassment. As is the case, I > >> would like to know some of your tips of using cutleries, like spoons, > >> forks, knives etc properly, in front of sighted folks. > >> Yes, one can always use their hands to have the food, but I think we > >> too are entitled to eat "attractively". If not attractively, at least to > >> save the time of washing our hands after the meal, we need to use such > >> things. > >> > >> With best regards > >> Syed Imran > >> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> with the subject unsubscribe. > >> > >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > >> please visit the list home page at > >> > >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i n > > > > > > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with the subject unsubscribe. > > > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > > please visit the list home page at > > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i n > > > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i n > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. 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