Folks, much awaited built-in OCR feature that I was talking about in Samsung talkback has now come through. Those having the Samsung phones do not need to do anything special on their end, just click the image that you receive on WhatsApp and touch the finger on the left bottom side or on the middle of the screen and all text will be read automatically. However, one major drawback is that one cannot take the advantage of navigating this text in the desired granularity mode.
Thanks. On 19/11/2021, Shek Mohammad Ali <shahid.se...@gmail.com> wrote: > Namaste. > Thanks so much, much appreciated. > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> On > Behalf Of Sandesh Narayane > Sent: Friday, November 19, 2021 7:17 PM > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Subject: Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! > > Namaskar! > Kindly visit https://t.me/jieshuochat > > The group currently has 1195 members from all over the world. > All updates of Jieshuo+ (Both standard including Chinese and international > English without Chinese) are posted here as they get released Everything or > I could say anything about the screen reader is there in this group. I don't > think you will require any assistance from this group or from anybody else > if you join and/or explore the group, please install Telegram on your phone > if you do not already have, click the above mentioned link and that's all. > Still, if any help is needed, please ask here, members of this forum too > will answer you as per their capacities. > > And yes, It supports braille, must be having Braille keyboard of its own > too. I heard people discussing about Braille and Braille keyboard on the > forum. I don't use Braille on mobile, hence can't say much. > > Regards > > Vande Mataram > > Sandesh > 9270056753 > > > On 11/19/21, sheik mohammedali <shahid.se...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Hey does it have Braille keypad as well? >> >> >> Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> >> ________________________________ >> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >> on behalf of Bikram <bikram.greets...@gmail.com> >> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2021 12:39:11 AM >> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >> concerning the disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >> Subject: Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! >> >> Hello sir, >> >> That sounds really awesome! >> I Would love to try that out. Would be great if you could share the >> resources off the list to obtain the same. >> >> On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 11:54 AM Sandesh >> <sandeshnaray...@gmail.com<mailto:sandeshnaray...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> Namaskar! >> >> As already answered by Satguru, this is an alternate screen reader >> also known as Jieshuo+. it is developped by a Chinies man named Lee >> singlehandedly, and it surpasses in many things compared to Talkback. >> Forget >> all other features, its responsiveness is just awsome. It's not >> available on playstore. But he gives continuous updates regularly via >> dedicated telegram group, sometimes, the app is updated 3 to 4 times >> in a week. it has 2 version, 1. Commentary screen reader and 2. >> Commentary screen reader international version without chinies >> language support, small in size. >> Whether people like it or not, it's fact that things Google could not >> do in about 10 or 12 or more years of Android journey of Talkback, >> this person could achieve it in 10 or 12 months. It's paid version >> does have all these things like OCR, sceen recognition, Captcha >> solving capability and many more features. but it's basic or free >> version also does many things Talkback developpers could not even >> think anytime. I do have it in my phone and use its free version >> sometimes when I am sure talkback would not assist me in the task, and >> more than half of the times, Jieshuo+ does not disappoint. >> They have their telegram group specially dedicated to Jieshuo+ or >> Commentary screen reader, and people from various countries do great >> amount of voluntary work like making it developped in different >> different languages etc without any monitary thing involved is just >> amazing. This shows the commitment, this is just an example of strong >> will for the work undertaken with dedication. and "Chota Muh badi >> baat", giants like google does have lots of things to learn from these >> people undoubtedly. and I can't stop from laughing when I hear hollow >> statements from google pertaining to accessibility for all etc. >> It is personal choice afterall, whether to use it or not, we know it >> is Chinies software, no need to say more on that, but just it's >> Chinies app does not disqualify it from the praise it is worthy of. >> >> Vande Mataram >> >> Sandesh >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "BIKRAMADITYA BEHERA" >> <bikram.greets...@gmail.com<mailto:bikram.greets...@gmail.com>> >> To: >> <accessindia@accessindia.org.in<mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >> > >> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2021 12:14 AM >> Subject: Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! >> >> >> Hello sir, >> >> Would you mind explaining a bit more about CSR? I didn’t get the >> context of the same in the below line that you have mentioned in your last >> reply: >> “But CSR does have this OCR capability of its own.” >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On 17-Nov-2021, at 2:15 PM, Sandesh >>> <sandeshnaray...@gmail.com<mailto:sandeshnaray...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Namaskar again! >>> >>> Google says this much about Talkback 12.1: >>> >>> TalkBack 12.1: >>> • Automatic captions for unlabeled images that contain text • Window >>> navigation >>> >>> It's natural that people may think this "Automatic captions for >>> unlabeled images" is OCR feature. >>> >>> But CSR does have this OCR capability of its own. >>> >>> You are right, Various phones from various manufacturers are there >>> having various additional features, even stock or pure Android phones >>> lag behind. >>> >>> Vande Mataram >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vikas Kapoor" >>> <dl.vi...@gmail.com<mailto:dl.vi...@gmail.com>> >>> To: >>> <accessindia@accessindia.org.in<mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>> >> >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 1:30 PM >>> Subject: RE: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! >>> >>> >>> I don't think so. People who have not activated their select to speak >>> are able to use the OCR feature, especially on images and some >>> unlabelled buttons. Android OS being a part of open source regime, >>> you never know which phones have what additional features. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: >>> accessindia@accessindia.org.in<mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >>> <accessindia@accessindia.org.in<mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>> >> >>> On >>> Behalf Of Sandesh >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 11:28 AM >>> To: >>> accessindia@accessindia.org.in<mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >>> Subject: Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! >>> >>> Namaskar Vikas and all! >>> >>> There seems confusion here. >>> the feature you are talking is not talkback feature, rather it's >>> Select to Speak one. And now, it's part of Android Accessibility >>> package. both Select to Speak and Talkback are parts of Android >>> Accessibility suite. >>> >>> In google's words, "Android Accessibility Suite is a collection of >>> accessibility apps that help you use your Android device eyes-free or >>> with a switch device. >>> >>> Android Accessibility Suite includes: >>> • Accessibility Menu: Use this large on-screen menu to lock your >>> phone, control volume and brightness, take screenshots, and more. >>> • Select to Speak: Select items on your screen and hear them read aloud. >>> • Switch Access: Interact with your Android device using one or more >>> switches or a keyboard instead of the touch screen - **newly added** >>> Camera Switches to navigate with facial gestures. >>> • TalkBack screen reader: Get spoken feedback, control your device >>> with gestures, and type with the on-screen braille keyboard". >>> >>> I hope, confusion is clear now. >>> >>> Still, I am pasting here relevant part of Google help article on >>> using Select to Speak for OCR purpose with it's URL: >>> >>> ============================== >>> Begins the portion of the Article >>> >>> >>> https://support.google.com/accessibility/android/answer/7349565?hl=en >>> >>> Android Accessibility Help >>> >>> Use Select to Speak >>> >>> Some of these steps work only on Android 11.0 and up. >>> >>> You can select items on your screen and hear them read or described >>> aloud with Select to Speak for Android. >>> >>> Step 1: Turn on Select to Speak >>> 1.Open your device's Settings app . >>> 2.Tap Accessibility, then tap Select to Speak. •Note: If you don't >>> see Select to Speak, go to Google Play to download the latest version >>> of Android Accessibility Suite, then try these steps again. >>> >>> 3.Turn on Select to Speak shortcut. >>> 4.Optional: To change your shortcut, tap Select to Speak shortcut. >>> >>> Step 2: Use Select to Speak >>> >>> Hear descriptions of things on your screen 1.To start Select to >>> Speak, use your Select to Speak shortcut: 2-finger swipe up (3-finger >>> swipe if TalkBack is on), or tap the Accessibility button >>> Accessibility. >>> 2.Tap an item on your screen, like text or an image. >>> 3.To hear multiple items, drag your finger across the screen. >>> 4.To hear everything, tap Play Play. •Tip: When the player is open, >>> use the buttons to pause or play, skip forward or backward, and to >>> increase or decrease speed. >>> >>> Point your camera at pictures or text >>> >>> You can point your camera at pictures or text to hear them read or >>> described aloud with OCR. >>> >>> This feature is available for Catalan, Danish, Dutch, English, >>> Finnish, French, German, Hungarian, Italian, Latin, Norwegian, >>> Polish, Portuguese, Romanian, Spanish, Swedish, Tagalog, and Turkish. >>> 1.Tap the Google Camera app . >>> 2.Point the camera at an image or text. >>> 3.To start Select to Speak, use your Select to Speak shortcut: >>> 2-finger swipe up (3-finger swipe if TalkBack is on), or tap the >>> Accessibility button Accessibility. >>> 4.Drag your finger across the screen, highlighting the text you want >>> to read. >>> >>> Read in the background >>> >>> You can do other things while Select to Speak is reading in the >>> background. >>> For example, scroll down or switch to another app while Select to >>> Speak reads. >>> >>> To let Select to Speak read in the background: >>> 1.Open your device's Settings app . >>> 2.Tap Accessibility, then tap Select to Speak. >>> 3.Tap Settings. >>> 4.At the top, turn on Read in background. >>> >>> Note: Select to Speak might not work with every mobile web browser. >>> >>> End of Article >>> ================= >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Vande Mataram >>> >>> Sandesh >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Vikas Kapoor" <dl.vi...@gmail.com<mailto:dl.vi...@gmail.com>> >>> To: >>> <accessindia@accessindia.org.in<mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>> >> >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 6:53 PM >>> Subject: RE: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! >>> >>> >>> Yes Satguru, it is a TalkBack feature, since I have Samsung phone and >>> I have yet to get this feature, I can't guide you more on this, but >>> many people have been using this feature. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: >>> accessindia@accessindia.org.in<mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >>> <accessindia@accessindia.org.in<mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>> >> >>> On >>> Behalf Of Satguru Rathi >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 2:56 PM >>> To: >>> accessindia@accessindia.org.in<mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >>> Subject: Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! >>> >>> ability to perform OCR through built-in OCR without any third-party >>> app??I first thought I've miss read it! I'm not aware of any such >>> feature on my phone! There is one addition related to this though >>> which is known as "Automatic captioning of unlabled images containing >>> text" but I can't find it anywhere in the talkback settings! but then >>> may be, it only pops up when there is an unlabled image with text. >>> >>> Hope to learn more on this. >>> >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Satguru. >>> >>>> On 16-11-2021 02:22 pm, Vikas Kapoor wrote: >>>> But Samsung phone users are certainly missing one important feature >>>> to those of non-Samsung users, which is the ability to perform OCR >>>> through built-in OCR without any third-party app. We have no idea as >>>> to when Samsung is going to provide the same feature. >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: >>>> accessindia@accessindia.org.in<mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>> > >>>> <accessindia@accessindia.org.in<mailto:accessin...@accessindia.org.i >>>> n>> >>>> On Behalf Of Satguru Rathi >>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 1:12 PM >>>> To: >>>> accessindia@accessindia.org.in<mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>> > >>>> Subject: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> >>>> Many of us using non Samsung phones have been admiring the touch and >>>> double tap to type feature of the Samsung keyboard on their phones >>>> for years! That changes with TB 12.1! You can now activate this >>>> feature on almost any android phone running the mentioned version of the >>>> TB. >>>> >>>> Steps: Open the TB settings from the TB menu (Swipe up then >>>> right),navigate to Advanced settings and then to "Typing Preference". >>>> You'll find two options: Hold finger to select key, then double tap >>>> and second, Hold finger to select key, then lift. The second one is >>>> activated by default. I've tried it on my Oneplus 8 running Oxygen >>>> 11.0.9.9 based on Android 11 and it is working fine. I prefer the >>>> standard method though, but that's the personal choice >>>> >>>> >>>> Enjoy! >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Satguru. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Disclaimer: >>>> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the >>>> thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates >>>> itself to its veracity; >>>> >>>> 2. 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