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Today's Topics:
1. Re: need to contact VI teachers (pradeep banakar)
2. Re: imidiat query about railway consession (manoj gupta)
3. Re: [ai] request for books (Amiyo Biswas)
4. Re: Fw: Employment News Promotional Mail (Amiyo Biswas)
5. Adviser Password in Firefox. (Amiyo Biswas)
6. Re: problem in opening account (Amar Jain)
7. Re: problem in opening account (Pamnani)
8. Re: problem in opening account (Amar Jain)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 11:39:42 +0530
From: "pradeep banakar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [AI] need to contact VI teachers
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May be the judicial officers are unaware of VIP's ability. We also
need to sensitize the judges, lawyers, doctors, recruitment agencies,
bureaucrats and others regarding rights of PWD's, important policies
and circulars, various judgments, identified jobs for VIP's, working
environment, and so on.
I remember 2 years before I placed in an NGO (working for Human Rights
& organizing workshops to government and other organizations) for
concurrent field work during my MSW. There I surprise to know the
feedback given by police, lawyers and other government officials that
they didn't know these many provisions are there in human rights.
Polices are admitted themselves that they have no idea what to do
after rescuing child from hotel or in any hazardous work places.
On 11/21/08, SC Vashishth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Pranay
I think, this is a worst case of denial of justice due to delay. I am
shocked what this gentleman must be undergoing all this while! Let me
know
know what sort of help that lawyer needs!
I think instead of wasting time there in the Mumbai High Court, the
matter
could have been handled here in Delhi in the CCPD or Supreme court in a
better way!
Any way this is also a perfect examples when we put up our legal cases
before inexperienced, insensitive and unaware Judicial Officers! But
what
a
fun to see such a judgement. There should be an outcry on this
regards
2008/11/19 Pranay Gadodia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hi all,
The lawyer of one of our callers from Pune wants to get in touch with
visually impaired people in the teaching fraternity.
The case is like this:
This Pune (Maharashtra) based man was working in a government school
as
a
hindi teacher for class 9 students. In 2000 he was fired from his
teaching
job as he lost most of his vision due to retina detachment. In 2001 he
sued
them in the state comissioner for PWDs' office. Long after, in 2007,
the
SCPD decided the case in this man's favour. The school went to the high
court which also adjudged the case in his favour. Now the school has
taken
the case to the Divisional Justice in Mumbai. The divisional justice
sent
him for his eyesight examination to a government hospital and also has
asked
the doctor whether he can work as a teacher with his vision loss.
We, as well as the lawyer, are surprised that how can a
doctor/ophthalmologist would decide whether a blind / LV person do a
job.
Their job is to examine and certify the disability. if the impairment
is
recognised by the PWD act as a disability, then a blind / LV person is
not
a
misfit in a teaching job which has been identified by the government
for
VI
people. Moreover as per the PWD act the government cannot throw out
their
permanent employees if they develop some disability.
Anyways, apart from some other info / connections, the lawyer of this
teacher wants to contact few other blind / LV people who are in to
teaching
jobs. People in and around Pune & Mumbai would be easy for them to
contact,
but VI teachers across the country are requested to come forward and
help
this guy get his long awaited equal right.
Please contact us on our helpdesk email ID [EMAIL PROTECTED] or on
our
below numbers. Feel free to revert back for any clarifications
required.
thanks and regards,
Pranay Gadodia | Programme Manager
Project Eyeway - A comprehensive information helpdesk on eye &
blindness
C/o Score Foundation, Y-70, Lower Ground floor, Hauz Khas, New Delhi -
110
016. INDIA.
Website: www.eyeway.org
Helpdesk:+91-11-460 70 380 (Monday to Friday 11am to 5pm)
Office Phone: +91 - 11 - 2685 2559/ 2685 2581
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 11:54:27 +0800
From: "manoj gupta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [AI] imidiat query about railway consession
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Yes it is, I have availed it twice.
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From: "Subramani L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] imidiat query about railway consession
Are you sure it is the same in 3rd A/C? Because I have been under the
impression that it is 50%
Subramani
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rohiet A.
Patil
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 11:30 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] imidiat query about railway consession
Hi!
concessions are definitely available for a.c also. If you are traveling
in
3rd AC, then the concession remains same I.e. 75% for the blind and
escort.
But in 2nd AC, it becomes 50% for boath. But first of all make sure that
you
have concession certificate with you having sealed and signature of an
authorise doctor.
Thanks and regards,
Rohiet A. Patil
----- Original Message -----
From: "Amjad Ahmed Fitwala" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 8:53 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] imidiat query about railway consession
Hi!
Concessions are available, but for more information, you may login to
the
website
www.indianrail.gov.in
You may also dial the integrated call centre of indian railway 139 for
more details.
Amjad Ahmed
Cell: 9833762173
E-mail:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Skype Id: amjadaf
--- On Thu, 20/11/08, aisha sahani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
From: aisha sahani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [AI] imidiat query about railway consession
To: "accessindia" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Date: Thursday, 20 November, 2008, 6:19 AM
hello all respectables,
hope all you are fine.
well, i have an imidiat query.
i have to go for a long distance journey by train. since i am looking
for ticket reservation as early as possible, wanted some
clearifications.
is concession available for AC Chair Car/AC 1st class /AC-2 tier and
AC-3 tier too?
what is the provision of railway concession for a totally blind?
how much percentage of fair will be payed by blind hir self and one
escort?
here let me tell that i will possibly go from AC- 3 tire, or AC- 2
tire.
the person at the railway reservation counter says that concessions
is available only in second class. acording to him, no concession is
available for AC classes.
is it so?
if no, then what steps i can take to resolve the issue?
is their any booklet/ guide/ else is available where all these things
are written? so that i can show that to the associated person.
kindly reply soon as much as possible.
with regards,
aisha sahani.
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 12:59:47 +0530
From: "Amiyo Biswas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [AI] [ai] request for books
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
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Hello,
You will find audio version for all Sherlock Holmes stories at
http://www.pinkgeekaudio.net
http://www.librivox.org
I have heard many of these stories and they are pretty good. The text
sites
have been already suggested.
Best regards,
Amiyo Biswas.
Cell: +91-9433464329
----- Original Message -----
From: "vibhu sharma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 10:29 PM
Subject: [AI] [ai] request for books
Dear All
Greetings to everyone.
One of the blind children, I know, wants to read novels of Sharlok
Holms.
You are all, sincerely requested to mail the novels, if you have any, to
me
personally. If not Sharlok Holms, than any other novel in any computer
accessible format sent shall be much appreciated.
All of your?s help, in this regard will be much obliged upon and I will
personally be extremely thankful to the sender and even to those, who
take
out their precious time to read this mail.
Anxiously awaiting your valuable replies
With regards
Vibhu
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 13:01:27 +0530
From: "Amiyo Biswas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: Employment News Promotional Mail
To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Hello,
The site had a link for newsletter subscription. Please check it if it is
still there at
http://www.employmentnews.gov.in
Best regards,
Amiyo Biswas.
Cell: +91-9433464329
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vijay Kumar P.V.S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: Employment News Promotional Mail
Respected sir:
Thank you very much for your information. Sir would you please give
the details about this news letter? I mean I would like to know the
subscription details of this news letter.
With warm regards
VIJAY
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 13:05:49 +0530
From: "Amiyo Biswas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [AI] Adviser Password in Firefox.
To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hello,
I want to restrict unwanted use of internet at home. Is there any way I
can
stop firefox working without a password? In internet explorer I can do it
using the Enable Adviser button on the Contents tab of Options. I did not
find anything in firefox.
In Kolkata the password for all broadband users is the same. There is no
way
I can change it. Moreover, my phone line gets disconnected when I have a
call on landline. So I can't check the "don't rememver password" so that
it
gets reconnected all by itself.
Best regards,
Amiyo Biswas.
Cell: +91-9433464329
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 13:40:05 +0530
From: "Amar Jain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [AI] problem in opening account
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
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Hello!
Hope you are doing good.
It is not mendatory for us to open a join account. All illusions are
due to the lack of awareness.
I would first suggest you to visit:
www.eyeway.org
"Acts and policies section", where you can get detailed information
about banking guidelines.
In some case of 2005 there is one order given by CCPD, which allows VI
persons various banking fecilities it is given there.
You may also take the help of this recent circular as well as the
recent RBI circular dated 4th June 2008.
Surely thumb impression is the most secured way and we can't be denied
by the banks on the ground of using thumb impression.
Main problem is that even high authorities of the banks are not aware
of such circulars and orders/cases/acts therefore they object in many
ways. Though the various circulars and orders have been passed in this
regard but they have not reached properly to the banks. Very few
persons know about such things.
You will have to little bit argue on this matter with the Branch manager.
If still the problem persits then first you can drop an email to the
bank and do not forget to mention about the above said circulars and
orders.
Though not expected if still problem persits then you may take the
help of our lawyers such as sweet Kanchan Pamnani mam and Harish sir
and Rajesh sir etc in this regard.
We can get cheque book, ATM, Mobile banking, Internet Banking, Credit
card/debit card, Loans, Locker etc, all the fecilities which a normal
person can get.
Contact me off the list if you need any help.
Hope this helps.
Best Wishes,
On 11/21/08, aisha sahani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Respected folks,
Though I also asked same query few days back, but due to any
reason, I could not get the answer. Therefore, asking it again in
optimism that this time I'll get some amount of support from all you
respectables.
I want to open an account in bank. Since I very much believe, that
the thum impression is the most appropriate way to insure security in
such a sensitive matter as of money, I don't want to use signature
even though I know how to do it.
The formost reason is that I've seen many cases where people got
deceived by duplicate signatures. In my case, though I can sign in
fact, but as it might not be very difficult to crack it if someone
wants, thinking to use only thum impression to indemnify maximum
protection.
The problem is that persons at bank says that they can't allow me to
open a fully functional bank account independently.
If I need check book facility, ATM, internet banking, mobile banking,
etc services, either I'll have to open an joint account with someone,
or will have to operate with signatures since they can't allow thum
impression on checks specially.
Will you please suggest me what to do in such a situation?
Is there any provision in respect to above stated problem?
Is it mandatory for a VI person to do signature on checks?
Also I've seen in guidelines of recent circular of IBA that VI
person should not denyed from opening account or issuing checkbooks if
she/he uses thum impression.
Please suggest me what may be the possible steps to open an account,
and get all the facilities What a non VI person gets.
Your kind and quick responses are highly awaited.
Regards,
Aisha sahani.
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 13:58:03 +0530
From: "Pamnani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [AI] problem in opening account
To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Amar,
Please be careful before giving advice. You are well aware that we have
been
working on this problem for the last few months and both the RBI andIBA
circulars are due to the efforts put in by everyone on accessindia.
Therefore dont complicate the matter.
Please do not use the2005 judgement.
You and the others have not realised the victory we have won by the
latest
IBA circular but that is the main circular now and it should be used by
anyone who has a problem. If that does not work at the branch level
then
the RBI circular of 4 June should be used.
You will not have to go further than that.
The situation may change 3 years from now but at present this is it.
I will be writing to you Ayesha personally over the weekend. There are
many
issues about Banking that you dont seem to have understood. Rights are
what
we have but there are duties that you have to fulfill and have to
understand
your responsibilities and the need to actually do something to enjoy the
rights.
Kanchan Pamnani
Advocate & Solicitor
9, Suleman Chambers,
Battery Street, Colaba,
Mumbai - 400 039.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Amar Jain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] problem in opening account
Hello!
Hope you are doing good.
It is not mendatory for us to open a join account. All illusions are
due to the lack of awareness.
I would first suggest you to visit:
www.eyeway.org
"Acts and policies section", where you can get detailed information
about banking guidelines.
In some case of 2005 there is one order given by CCPD, which allows VI
persons various banking fecilities it is given there.
You may also take the help of this recent circular as well as the
recent RBI circular dated 4th June 2008.
Surely thumb impression is the most secured way and we can't be denied
by the banks on the ground of using thumb impression.
Main problem is that even high authorities of the banks are not aware
of such circulars and orders/cases/acts therefore they object in many
ways. Though the various circulars and orders have been passed in this
regard but they have not reached properly to the banks. Very few
persons know about such things.
You will have to little bit argue on this matter with the Branch
manager.
If still the problem persits then first you can drop an email to the
bank and do not forget to mention about the above said circulars and
orders.
Though not expected if still problem persits then you may take the
help of our lawyers such as sweet Kanchan Pamnani mam and Harish sir
and Rajesh sir etc in this regard.
We can get cheque book, ATM, Mobile banking, Internet Banking, Credit
card/debit card, Loans, Locker etc, all the fecilities which a normal
person can get.
Contact me off the list if you need any help.
Hope this helps.
Best Wishes,
On 11/21/08, aisha sahani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Respected folks,
Though I also asked same query few days back, but due to any
reason, I could not get the answer. Therefore, asking it again in
optimism that this time I'll get some amount of support from all you
respectables.
I want to open an account in bank. Since I very much believe, that
the thum impression is the most appropriate way to insure security in
such a sensitive matter as of money, I don't want to use signature
even though I know how to do it.
The formost reason is that I've seen many cases where people got
deceived by duplicate signatures. In my case, though I can sign in
fact, but as it might not be very difficult to crack it if someone
wants, thinking to use only thum impression to indemnify maximum
protection.
The problem is that persons at bank says that they can't allow me to
open a fully functional bank account independently.
If I need check book facility, ATM, internet banking, mobile banking,
etc services, either I'll have to open an joint account with someone,
or will have to operate with signatures since they can't allow thum
impression on checks specially.
Will you please suggest me what to do in such a situation?
Is there any provision in respect to above stated problem?
Is it mandatory for a VI person to do signature on checks?
Also I've seen in guidelines of recent circular of IBA that VI
person should not denyed from opening account or issuing checkbooks if
she/he uses thum impression.
Please suggest me what may be the possible steps to open an account,
and get all the facilities What a non VI person gets.
Your kind and quick responses are highly awaited.
Regards,
Aisha sahani.
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 14:14:25 +0530
From: "Amar Jain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [AI] problem in opening account
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Message-ID:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Respect Mam and All the accessindians,
I really appologise if I have hurt you in any way. My intention was
not at all to criticize the efforts or mam or Sam sir's efforts or
anybody's efforts done in this regard.
I only told that the people are not aware that's why we face such
problems. I know that mam and lots of people are doing great efforts
in many fields and I have deep respect for their sincere efforts and
achieved targets.
However, I was not aware of the fact that we should give first
priority to the IBA circular in case of any problem.
I was just trying to help one of our member and in that case if I have
hurt anybody then once again please accept my appologies.
It is just my question and nothing at all that what is the reason for
not using the judgement of 2005? Since I don't have the detailed
knowledge.
Please remember that I am asking for my own knowledge and my
intentions are not at all to do counter question in this regard.
Once again accept my appologies and do not disturb our personal
relations due to such mistakes.
Everybody please don't keep any heart feelings in this regard.
Best Regards,
Amar Jain.
On 11/21/08, Pamnani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Amar,
Please be careful before giving advice. You are well aware that we have
been
working on this problem for the last few months and both the RBI andIBA
circulars are due to the efforts put in by everyone on accessindia.
Therefore dont complicate the matter.
Please do not use the2005 judgement.
You and the others have not realised the victory we have won by the
latest
IBA circular but that is the main circular now and it should be used by
anyone who has a problem. If that does not work at the branch level
then
the RBI circular of 4 June should be used.
You will not have to go further than that.
The situation may change 3 years from now but at present this is it.
I will be writing to you Ayesha personally over the weekend. There are
many
issues about Banking that you dont seem to have understood. Rights are
what
we have but there are duties that you have to fulfill and have to
understand
your responsibilities and the need to actually do something to enjoy the
rights.
Kanchan Pamnani
Advocate & Solicitor
9, Suleman Chambers,
Battery Street, Colaba,
Mumbai - 400 039.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Amar Jain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] problem in opening account
Hello!
Hope you are doing good.
It is not mendatory for us to open a join account. All illusions are
due to the lack of awareness.
I would first suggest you to visit:
www.eyeway.org
"Acts and policies section", where you can get detailed information
about banking guidelines.
In some case of 2005 there is one order given by CCPD, which allows VI
persons various banking fecilities it is given there.
You may also take the help of this recent circular as well as the
recent RBI circular dated 4th June 2008.
Surely thumb impression is the most secured way and we can't be denied
by the banks on the ground of using thumb impression.
Main problem is that even high authorities of the banks are not aware
of such circulars and orders/cases/acts therefore they object in many
ways. Though the various circulars and orders have been passed in this
regard but they have not reached properly to the banks. Very few
persons know about such things.
You will have to little bit argue on this matter with the Branch
manager.
If still the problem persits then first you can drop an email to the
bank and do not forget to mention about the above said circulars and
orders.
Though not expected if still problem persits then you may take the
help of our lawyers such as sweet Kanchan Pamnani mam and Harish sir
and Rajesh sir etc in this regard.
We can get cheque book, ATM, Mobile banking, Internet Banking, Credit
card/debit card, Loans, Locker etc, all the fecilities which a normal
person can get.
Contact me off the list if you need any help.
Hope this helps.
Best Wishes,
On 11/21/08, aisha sahani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Respected folks,
Though I also asked same query few days back, but due to any
reason, I could not get the answer. Therefore, asking it again in
optimism that this time I'll get some amount of support from all you
respectables.
I want to open an account in bank. Since I very much believe, that
the thum impression is the most appropriate way to insure security in
such a sensitive matter as of money, I don't want to use signature
even though I know how to do it.
The formost reason is that I've seen many cases where people got
deceived by duplicate signatures. In my case, though I can sign in
fact, but as it might not be very difficult to crack it if someone
wants, thinking to use only thum impression to indemnify maximum
protection.
The problem is that persons at bank says that they can't allow me to
open a fully functional bank account independently.
If I need check book facility, ATM, internet banking, mobile banking,
etc services, either I'll have to open an joint account with someone,
or will have to operate with signatures since they can't allow thum
impression on checks specially.
Will you please suggest me what to do in such a situation?
Is there any provision in respect to above stated problem?
Is it mandatory for a VI person to do signature on checks?
Also I've seen in guidelines of recent circular of IBA that VI
person should not denyed from opening account or issuing checkbooks if
she/he uses thum impression.
Please suggest me what may be the possible steps to open an account,
and get all the facilities What a non VI person gets.
Your kind and quick responses are highly awaited.
Regards,
Aisha sahani.
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