No I was under the impression that the government not recognising
blindness as a form of disability has been having some sort of adverse
effect. If this is just the question of preferring one terminology for
the other, then I guess it's fine. 

Subramani 



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Powar
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 11:48 AM
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[AI]Two-dayNationalConferenceon'DisabilityandDisenchantment:NewChallenge
s and Evolvingdirections'

Hi Subramani,
Well, for  the very reason these were employable people in the eyes of
the 
government.  Who wouldn't want to work if, other than your vision, your 
other bodily parts are working well?  We've to accept it as a fact that 
blind are not disabled but have some limitations.  We have the
handibuses 
that come and pick you up and drop you in your doorway.  So, what are
the 
reasons that a blind person won't want to work?  After all, all that 
technology was totally paid for if not just subsidized.  And, in the end
you 
end up making more money than what the government was paying you.
Amarjit

----- Original Message ----- 
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To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 10:08 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] 
Two-dayNationalConferenceon'DisabilityandDisenchantment:NewChallenges
and 
Evolvingdirections'


> But usually lobbiests are very strong in your country isn't it? Then
why
> didn't they step in to protest against the Alberta government?
>
> Subramani
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Amarjit
> Powar
> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 3:39 AM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Two-dayNational
> Conferenceon'DisabilityandDisenchantment:NewChallenges and
> Evolvingdirections'
>
> Hi  Harish bhai,
> Technically speaking, we do not have the term as handicapped in Canada
> anymore.  It  was long fazed-out because it had a  negative conotation
> and
> was replaced by the more user-friendly term as disabled.  It
encompasses
> all
> sorts of disabilities and physical disabilities but excludes visual
> disability or blindness.  We  are disabled here if we have a  physical
> disability.  and visually disabled or visually disadvantaged when we
> define
> ourselves as visually unfit.  However, the blind are not considered
> disabled
> as the advancements in technology has made them more independent.
> Consequently, the blind are not considered as disabled.
>  Amarjit
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "harish" <har...@accessindia.org.in>
> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 10:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Two-day National
> Conferenceon'DisabilityandDisenchantment:New Challenges and
> Evolvingdirections'
>
>
>> Hi Amarjit
>> I suppose you are refering to handicap and not disability. I do stand
> by
>> my statement as disability refers to in this context non
functionality
> of
>> a sense organ. I am not refering to a dictionary definition.
>> Harish.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Amarjit Powar" <po...@shaw.ca>
>> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>> Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 10:47 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Two-day National
>> Conferenceon'DisabilityandDisenchantment:New Challenges and
>> Evolvingdirections'
>>
>>
>>> Hello Harish bhai,
>>> Something related or perhaps unrelated to your statement of below.
>>> Blindness in Alberta, Canada, is not, yes, not considered a
> disability
>>> anymore since the late mid 90's for applying for disability
pensions.
>
>>> The government says that blindness is just a  nuisance and not a
>>> disability as such.  The blind, as we all know it today and even
>>> considering
>>> majority of AccessIndians , can very well function in office-related
> jobs
>>> using modern software e.g. TTS, OCRs etc.  One can perform clerical,
>>> accounting, programming, etc. etc. jobs using these technologies.  I
>>> recall that the Albertan Government had removed some 1200 or 1800
> blind
>>> people from its disability payroll and got them enrolled in call
> centre
>>> jobs in the late mid 90s when JAWS gained more popularity and the
>>> government started subsidizing its purchase. So, we have to be
>>> politically correct as to who is a  disabled and what disability
> means.
>>>         Sorry as this does not matter much to AccessIndians, but
just
>
>>> wanted to add my two cents worth.
>>> Amarjit
>>> Calgary, Alberta, Canada
>>>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "harish" <har...@accessindia.org.in>
>>> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 9:06 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Two-day National Conference
>>> on'DisabilityandDisenchantment:New Challenges and Evolving
> directions'
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello Vidya
>>>>
>>>> Isn't blindness a disablility? I guess, this is a first conference
> in a
>>>> series of it. Maybe in the future, they shall have greater
>>>> representation from other disabilities. In any case they too should
> be
>>>> getting a right place in terms of accomodation at the univercities.
>>>>
>>>> Finally, they too should take a lead to seek appropriate
> accomodation.
>>>>
>>>> Harish
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Vidya" <joshvi...@gmail.com>
>>>> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 3:09 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Two-day National Conference on
>>>> 'DisabilityandDisenchantment:New Challenges and Evolving
directions'
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I think you guys should have used the term "blindness" rather than
>>>>>"disability". I fail to see other disabilities being represented
> here.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Mahesh Panicker" <maheshspanic...@gmail.com>
>>>>> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 8:59 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Two-day National Conference on 'Disability
>>>>> andDisenchantment:New Challenges and Evolving directions'
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi list.
>>>>>> we, JNU visually challenged forum did indeed wanted to give out
> the
>>>>>> invite
>>>>>> earlier, but since it is a national seminar organized at the
level
> of
>>>>>> an
>>>>>> institution like JNU, it took us lot more time to put things in
> place.
>>>>>> hope you understand and appriciate thesituation. we at least
those
>
>>>>>> people
>>>>>> who are based in Delhi can make it to the seminar.
>>>>>> your participation is most valued.
>>>>>> with best regards.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/28/09, Amit Bhatt <misterbh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sounds good, it seems to be a great conference in order to focus
> on
>>>>>>> the new
>>>>>>> challenges and explore some innovative ideas and directions in
> our
>>>>>>> education
>>>>>>> in the Country.
>>>>>>> Thank you for showing the huge guts of keeping open invitation
> for
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> members to join the event. Only the thing is that it should have
> been
>>>>>>> informed little earlier since many people would always like to
be
>
>>>>>>> benefited
>>>>>>> by such valuable workshops to be organized. Anyway its a good
>>>>>>> opportunity
>>>>>>> and I shall endeavor to attend the program either of the days.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Warm regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Amit Bhatt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> MIS Analyst come Reservation Incharge - Far Horizon Tours Pvt.
> Ltd.
>>>>>>> India
>>>>>>> www.farhorizonindia.com
>>>>>>> Ph-Off: +91-129-409-8022 { Fax: +91-129-409-8098
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> List Manager - SayEverything mailing group, an open discussion
> forum
>>>>>>> dedicated to persons with disabilities
>>>>>>> http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/sayeverything/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Direct Cell: +91-986-820-1812
>>>>>>> Skype: amitbhattindia
>>>>>>> IM: champion_bh...@yahoo.co.in
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "A player that makes a team great is more valuable than a great
>>>>>>> player"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Annavaram"
>>>>>>> <annavara...@hotmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 11:21 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: [AI] Two-day National Conference on 'Disability and
>>>>>>> Disenchantment:New Challenges and Evolving directions'
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Hi Access-Indians,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am happy to inform you all that equal opportunities office at
> JNU,
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> JNU-Visually challenged forum are jointly organising a two-day
>>>>>>>> National
>>>>>>>> Conference on 'disability and Disenchantment: New challenges
and
>
>>>>>>>> Evolving
>>>>>>>> directions' on 2nd&3rd march 2009 at Jawaharlal Nehru
University
>
>>>>>>>> Campus.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I wish to make a special request to all our friends at Delhi to
>>>>>>>> participate in our Conference on both the days and contribute
to
>
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>> academic event which is going to be unique in Indian higher
>>>>>>>> educational
>>>>>>>> circles. working visually-challenged friends at Delhi can write
> to
>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>> organising team at jnuvis...@gmail.com to obtain a special
>>>>>>>> delegation
>>>>>>>> invitation which they can use either to avail a special Casual
> leave
>>>>>>>> or to
>>>>>>>> attend the conference on-duty-leave.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> since the sessions in the conference run throughout the day
from
>
>>>>>>>> 9:30 AM
>>>>>>>> to 5:00 PM, Lunch and the High-Tea will be taken-care by the
>>>>>>>> University.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> for the root map of our University, you can visit
>>>>>>>> http://www.jnu.ac.in or
>>>>>>>> write to us at jnuvis...@gmail.com for any query.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I feel more than happy to further inform you that some of our
>>>>>>>> high-profiled Access-Indians, Including our Moderator, are
going
> to
>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>> focused presentations in our Conference.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> you may therefore please go through the complete schedule
pasted
>
>>>>>>>> below and
>>>>>>>> find out for yourself!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The National Conference on Disability and Disenchantment: New
>>>>>>>> challenges
>>>>>>>> and Evolving directions
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Schedule
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> An event first of its kind in Indian academic circles, the
>>>>>>>> conference will
>>>>>>>> have a multifaceted participation of Renowned Academicians,
> Young
>>>>>>>> scholars,
>>>>>>>> Administrators and Activists working in the field of
disability.
>
>>>>>>>> Spread
>>>>>>>> across two-days (2nd&3rd March), it is divided into five
> thematic
>>>>>>>> sessions
>>>>>>>>  besides a brief formal inaugural ceremony and the concluding
> panel
>>>>>>>> discussion, the details of which are given below:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> INAUGURAL SESSION
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2nd March (9:30 AM to 11:15 AM) at SSS1 Auditorium JNU Campus.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Chief Guest: Sri; Mani Shankar Aiyyar (Hon.ble Union minister
of
>
>>>>>>>> Panchayat
>>>>>>>> raj and youth affairs, Government of India.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Key note Speaker: Prof. Sukh Dev-Singh Torat (chairperson,
>>>>>>>> University
>>>>>>>> Grants Commission.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Officiating Chair: Prof. B.B. Bhattacharya (Vice-chancellor,
> JNU.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> DISABILITY, PUBLIC POLICY AND LAW
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2nd March (11:30 AM to 1:00 PM) at SSS1 Committee Room JNU
> Campus.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Officiating Chair: Justice Rajendra Babu (National Human Rights
>>>>>>>> Commission
>>>>>>>> India)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Titles and Presenters
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1) Global Trends and transformation: International Laws on
>>>>>>>> Disability with
>>>>>>>> special reference to UN-Convention on Persons with disabilities
>>>>>>>> Neredimalli
>>>>>>>> Annavaram, Center for the Study of Social systems, School of
> Social
>>>>>>>> Sciences, JNU;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2) The Enactment and Implementation of Persons with
Disabilities
>
>>>>>>>> (Equal
>>>>>>>> Opportunities, Protection of rights and Full-participation) Act
> 1995
>>>>>>>> and a
>>>>>>>> way forward Santosh Kumar Rungta, Advocate at Delhi High-court
> and
>>>>>>>> the long
>>>>>>>> serving General secretary of National Federation of the Blind;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 3) WORLD PSYCHE AND THE DISABILITY POLICY Dr. Ramesh Kumar
> Sarene,
>>>>>>>> Teaching faculty at the Department of political science,
> Satyavathi
>>>>>>>> college,
>>>>>>>> University of Delhi; and
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 4) To see the invisible: reflections on disability and public
> policy
>>>>>>>> Dr.
>>>>>>>> Vinod, Teaching Faculty at the Department of  Psychology, Lady
>>>>>>>> Sriram
>>>>>>>> College, University of Delhi.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> DISABILITY, EDUCATION AND CAREER
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2nd March (1:45 PM to 3:30 PM) at SSS1 Committee Room JNU
> Campus.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Officiating Chair: Prof. Abijit Patak, Center for the study of
>>>>>>>> Social
>>>>>>>> systems, School of Social Sciences, JNU.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Titles and Presenters
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1)      Curriculum Development for Higher Education in
> Disability
>>>>>>>> Studies
>>>>>>>> and Action Co-authored by: Dr. Srilata Juvva Head of The
> Department,
>>>>>>>> Disability Studies and Dr. Kalyani Talvelkar, Tata Institute of
>>>>>>>> Social
>>>>>>>> Sciences, Mumbai;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2)       Career and Capability: Opportunities for Persons with
>>>>>>>> disabilities Shanti raghavan, Managing Director and Trustee,
> Enable
>>>>>>>> India
>>>>>>>> foundation, Bangalore; and
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 3)       Disability and higher education Dr. Gangatharan,
> Teaching
>>>>>>>> faculty
>>>>>>>> at the History Department, Banaras Hindu University, banaras.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> THEORISING DISABILITY
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 3rd March (9:30 AM to 11:15 AM) at SSS1 Committee Room.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Officiating Chair: Prof. Gautam, Vice-chancellor, Bhareli
>>>>>>>> University;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Titles and Presenters
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1) Beyond Medical Dogmatism and ConstructivistOrthodoxy:
> Capability
>>>>>>>> Framework for Understanding Disability S. Mahesh Panicker,
> Young
>>>>>>>> Scholar
>>>>>>>> and Teaching Faculty, Lady Sriram College, University of delhi;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2) Stigma and Social Disability Dr. Krishna Svami Dara,
Teaching
>
>>>>>>>> Faculty,
>>>>>>>> Jamia Milya University, Delhi;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 3) DISABILITY, STIGMATISATION AND SOCIAL EXCLUSION: INSIGHTS
> FROM
>>>>>>>> INDIA
>>>>>>>> Dr. Rambabu, Teaching Faculty, Tata Institute of Social
> Sciences,
>>>>>>>> Mumbai;
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 4) The Metaphysics of Body: implications for Discourse on
> Disability
>>>>>>>> Prof.
>>>>>>>> Gopal Guru, Teaching faculty, Center for Political studies,
> School
>>>>>>>> of Social
>>>>>>>> sciences, JNU.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> DISABILITY,  GENDER AND CIVIL SOCIETY
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Officiating Chair: Prof. Janiki Abraham, Chairperson, Center
for
>
>>>>>>>> women
>>>>>>>> studies, School of Social sciences, JNU.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Titles and Presenters
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1) DUAL BURDEN OF GENDER AND ABLEISM IN THE LIVES OF WOMEN WITH
>>>>>>>> (VISUAL)
>>>>>>>> DISABILITIES IN INDIA Dr. Renu Addlakha, Senior Fellow, Center
> for
>>>>>>>> women's
>>>>>>>> Development studies, Delhi;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2) Disability and Gender: a Constructive Approach Dr. Anita
> Ghai,
>>>>>>>> teaching
>>>>>>>> faculty, Jesus and Mary College, University of Delhi;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Women and Disability Preeti Monga, Director, Silver linings;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 4) Dissident bodies, demystified nations: a post-colonial
> reading of
>>>>>>>> disability in the novels of Tony Morrison Dr. Navnit Shethi,
>>>>>>>> Associate
>>>>>>>> Professor, Center for English Studies, School of Language,
>>>>>>>> Literature&Culture studies, JNU;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> EQUALITY, ACCESSIBILITY AND TECHNOLOGY
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 3rd March (2:00 PM to 3:45 PM) at SSS1 Committee Room.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Officiating Chair: Prof. Anand kumar, Center for The study of
> Social
>>>>>>>> Systems, School of Social Sciences, JNU;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Titles and Presenters
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1) Copyright & Print Access - Response & Challenge: A Higher
>>>>>>>> Education
>>>>>>>> Case Study Dr. Sam Taraporevala, Head of the Department of
>>>>>>>> Sociology, St.
>>>>>>>> Xaviers College, University of Mumbai and The Director, Xaviers
>>>>>>>> Resource
>>>>>>>> Center for Visually-challenged;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2) Times They are Changing George Abraham, Chief Executive
> Officer,
>>>>>>>> Score
>>>>>>>> foundation and founding patron of the Indian Cricket Board for
>>>>>>>> Visually-challenged; 3) Continued relevance of Braille in India
> and
>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>> developing countries Prof. A.K. Mittal, President, All India
>>>>>>>> Confederation
>>>>>>>> of The Blind, and Treasurer, World Blind Union; and
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 4) Equality through e-Quality: Importance of Technology and
>>>>>>>> Accessibility
>>>>>>>> for the Creation of an Equalizing Environment Harish Kotian,
>>>>>>>> Assistant
>>>>>>>> General manager, Reserve Bank of India, Mumbai.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> PANEL DISCUSSION
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 3rd March (4:00 PM to 5:00 PM) at SSS1 Committee Room.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Moderator: Sri; Vivek Sahai, General manager, Northern
Railways.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Discussants include: Chief Commissionor, Office of Persons with
>>>>>>>> disabilities, Chairperson, National Trust for the Welfare of
> Persons
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> Autism, Cerebral Palsy, Mental Retardation and Multiple
>>>>>>>> Disabilities, and
>>>>>>>> representatives from the office of Union public service
> Commission,
>>>>>>>> Ministry
>>>>>>>> of Social Justice and Empowerment, Ministry of Human resource
>>>>>>>> development
>>>>>>>> and Ministry of Women and Child Development.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Looking forward for your estemed presence!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mr. Annavaram Along with the Organising Team!
>>>>>>>>
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