Since my name end in 'I', of late I have been recceiving invites from Sindis to join their network (smile). I think not knowing names or the gender of people is fun in some senses. Unless you don't really see the fun part, you would take it seriously.
Subramani -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Shadab Husain Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 2:54 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AI] Member's Gender. Hello Mr Amarjit Powar! Thanks for this clarification, detailing and elaborating and excuse me for miscuing you to be a female. Easy tips of improving English at http://shadablucknow.blogspot.com/ My contributions to the press http://shadablucknow.blogspot.com/2008/10/my-contributions-to-press.html #link Many posts on one page http://shadablucknow.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2008-01-01T00%3A00% 3A00-08%3A00&updated-max=2009-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-08%3A00&max-results=47 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Amarjit Powar" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 9:46 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Member's Gender. Sorry, this was sitting in my Draft Folder, so just posting it today. Hello Amaiyo, Good thread you picked up for name clarifications. I too am confused over a lot of East Indian names and paticipants of AI. And Shadab, assumably a male himself, seems to be even more confused as he has addressed me as Ms Amarjit in his mail of below. No, dear Shadab, this Amarjit is a male Amarjit, but I mentioned I had two female cousins who too were named as Amarjit. And, Amaiyo is right about Punjabi and particularly Punjabi Sikh names being used interchangeably for both genders. However, one can always distinguish the gender as Singh is used by the Sik males and Kaur is used by Sikh females. More and more Sikhs nowadays are reverting to using distinctive names e.g. Powar, Pawar, Paur, Gill, Dhillon, Cheema, Aurora, Dhaliwal, Saini etc. etc. (the list is endless) Since some last names were connected to the Hindu caste system, the tenth and last Guru of the Sikh faith, Guru Gobind Singh ji, wanted to create equality and uniformity in the Sikh faith and bestowed the name Singh for all males, or meaning lion, and Kaur for all females, or meaning princess. Most committed Sikh still continue to stand steadfast to ending the last name as Singh e.g. Indian Prime Minister, His Excellency, Manmohan Singh and His good wife as Gursharan Kaur. Coming to the name Kiran, we had two family friends while living in Africa, and one had his daughter named Kiran and the other had his son named as Kiran. These names are used interchangeably. Pretty hard to distinguish untill antefixed by Singh or Kaur. Well, so much about Sikh/Punjabi names. Amarjit .----- Original Message ----- From: "Amiyo Biswas" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 1:10 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Member's Gender. > Hello, > > I have changed the subject line for focussing on the last thread. First, > let > me tell you that I am a man. Names may be confusing at times. Names like > Kiran and Kanchan may be both male and female names in India. It depends > on > the language and custom of the particular region. > > As far as my name is concerned, if I spell my name as Amiya, it becomes > equivalent for both male and female names in Bengali. So I always spell it > as Amiyo. Amarjit in Bengali sounds a male name. So, she must not be > offended if somebody is confused, and I am sure, she is not. I have seen > that Punjabi people do not distinguish between male and female names. We, > Bengali people, are used to calling girls by names ending with an "aa" or > with an "ee" sound. I appreciate the Sikh Punjabi tradition of using same > type of names for boys and girls and indicating a girl's name with a > "Kaur". > > > Best regards, > > Amiyo Biswas. > > Cell: +91-9433464329 > Skype ID: amiyo11 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Shadab Husain" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 10:46 AM > Subject: Re: [AI] Request for latest Gutanburg Version download link > > >> Hi Ms Amarjit - thanks for this reply. Even it is very difficult for me > also >> to understand who is male and who is female here. So, I will humbly > request >> to everybody to please mention your gender. I don't think that this is >> off >> topic because knowing the genders of our friends is necessary. I am a > male. >> By the way mam, 3 3 cousin sisters of the same name in a single family >> and >> that too of a male name (Amarjit) really makes it extremely curious!! >> With >> best wishes, Shadab Husain >> >> Easy tips of improving English at >> http://shadablucknow.blogspot.com/ >> >> My contributions to the press >> > http://shadablucknow.blogspot.com/2008/10/my-contributions-to-press.html #lin > k >> >> Many posts on one page >> > http://shadablucknow.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2008-01-01T00%3A00% 3A00 > -08%3A00&updated-max=2009-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-08%3A00&max-results=47 >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Amarjit Powar" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 8:46 AM >> Subject: Re: [AI] Request for latest Gutanburg Version download link >> >> >> One of the greatest challanges in the pool of East Indian names is that > it's >> very difficult to distinguish the gender of a person just from the name >> as >> most names nowadays are becoming unisex. For instance, I've two female >> cousins who too go by my first name. To add to the agony, south Indian >> mames, no disrespect to my >> brethren,are even more difficult to attach to a gender. They are hard >> enough even for JAWS to pronounce let alone distinguish the gender. ha > ha! >> >> Had Ms Sharma not introduced herself as a female, I too might have been >> compelled to assume her to be a he. >> Amarjit >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "vibhu sharma" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 6:04 AM >> Subject: Re: [AI] Request for latest Gutanburg Version download link >> >> >> Dear Mr. surya >> >> Thanks for your guidance. Now I can download the latest version of > gutenburg >> by the steps guided by your good-self. >> >> I am sorry, if I sound rude, but let this be a reminder to all our >> friends >> at Access India and an introduction to you, being a new member that I am > not >> Mister (Mr). I am a female. >> >> Thanks and regards >> Vibhu >> >> >> >> >> --- On Sat, 28/2/09, surya narayana <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> From: surya narayana <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [AI] Request for latest Gutanburg Version download link >> To: [email protected] >> Cc: [email protected] >> Date: Saturday, 28 February, 2009, 5:04 PM >> >> Mr. Sharma, >> K1000 is software used for our purpose. But it contains the feature of >> searching for literature andbooks and magazines with the help of some >> other websites like Gutenburg. We can make use of them at free of >> cost.Good luck,Surya. >> >> On 2/28/09, vibhu sharma <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Dear Mr. Surya >> > >> > Thanks for answering my query and allowing me to take further >> > assistance >> > from your good-self in case of a doubt. >> > >> > Acctually, Gutenburg, is a website providing e-books. What I request >> > you >> to >> > please explain is how is it related to kurzwiel 1000? I can always > install >> > the software to my computer and make its use as guided by your > good-self. >> > But please explain me the relation between the two so as to enhance my >> > knowledge and making it easy for me to download the latest gutenburg >> > version. >> > >> > Thanks once again for your guidance >> > With best regards >> > Vibhu >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > --- On Sat, 28/2/09, surya narayana <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > From: surya narayana <[email protected]> >> > Subject: Re: [AI] Request for latest Gutanburg Version download link >> > To: [email protected], [email protected] >> > Date: Saturday, 28 February, 2009, 2:29 PM >> > >> > Hello sharma, >> > If kurzwiel 1000 is installed on your system, You should go to online >> > submenu then open it. Press enter when you hear updates. After >> > sometime, you will be prompted with some updates Put a check mark for >> > every update by pressing spacebar while moving with arrows. wait for >> > sometime. they will be downloaded and installed automatically when >> > exit from it. Still if you feel doubt, Please contact me. my skype id >> > : sosurya my mobile: 9441013400 >> > Good luck, >> > Surya. >> > >> > On 2/27/09, vibhu sharma <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Dear All >> >> Greetings to you all. >> >> First of all, I am sorry if the queery I am going to ask, has already >> been >> >> answered for any other member of our E-home. >> >> This is to request you all, to please guide me through the process of >> >> downloading the latest version of Gutenburg. 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