Hi Thahir,
Discussion of accessibility of washing machines or Microwave ovens is very
much within the pirview of this list, since these are gadgets and are
therefore related to technology. However, if we begin discussing accessible
porn sites, there will be no end to this interpretation of accessibility --
there could soon be queries about accessible sites with information for
producing bombs or stealing credit card information. So where do you draw
the line?
Geetha
----- Original Message -----
From: "Thahir P C" <pctha...@gmail.com>
To: "Geetha Shamanna" <gee...@millernorbert.de>;
<accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] query from thahir
dear geetha shamanna,
suppose i make a querry about sites or blogs where i will get information
about accessible washing machine or microwave oven in access india, will
you not answer that question ? wil it be considered an off-topic question?
do you think simply answering that question will kick off an off-topic
chaotic discussion on washing techniques, detergents, recipes and dieting?
in case such a thing happens, there comes the relevance of the moderator.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Geetha Shamanna" <gee...@millernorbert.de>
To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 10:27 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] query from thahir
Hi Rajesh and all,
While I agree with you that a mature and unbiased discussion of
accessible pornographic material is well within the boundaries of this
list, imagine the chaos the list would descend into if every other person
began posting links to porn sites on this list under the guise of
accessibility?
Considering that this list is already devoted to a subject as vast as
accessible information technology, let us confine ourselves to doing
justice to this subject and not branch out into discussing accessible
porn sites, accessible cookery sites, accessible knitting sites and so
on. While all these subjects come under the pirview of accessibility, a
single mailing list cannot do justice to every accessibility-related
subject.
In an age when creating a new mailing list takes no more than a couple of
minutes, why choke an already congested list with more mail?
Just my two cents...
Geetha
----- Original Message -----
From: "Asudani, Rajesh" <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in>
To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] query from thahir
Well, I think being a member of this group for so many years, I do have
a certain right to say something on this matter, despite the closure of
threat.
I think the question does relate to accessibility and internet for
visually impaired, and as such, may be legitimately construed to be
within bounds of the group, but for the fact that pornography or any
sexually colored material is illegal in India and so the group may not
discuss anything illegal.
However, please remember that law does change with mores of society and
what is a taboo today is a common sense of tomorrow.
Moreover, binding accessibility to legality is unfair, me thinks.
Sight does not regard the bounds of legality or otherwise.
Life with its joys and enchantments ought to be equally available to
all, is the hallmark of accessibility.
And Shadab, the ones whom you have, without any moderatorial
jurisdiction, publicly termed raunchy, are the respected members of
community, working and teaching in reputed institutions.
A person does not become antisocial merely by recognizing inherent needs
of all human kind.
rather it is undu suppression and repression of the same which renders
humans brute many a times.
Only objection to the query in the message is manifest illegality of the
pornography in India, but the effort about universality of accessibility
is commendable.
On this note, I would like to share that the movie Dev D is said to
have bypassed censors by substituting sexually explicit scenes with
dialogue which is less appealing to sight but more appealing I think to
listeners like us. Maybe, the director, though not consciously thinking
about accessibility, has achieved the aim partially at least.
I intend to watch it shortly and call upon all the visually impaired to
do so to get an experience. of the movie. Otherwise, so prudish are we
the Indians, that even video described movies like Black, we shun to
describe scenes involving expressions of love, kissing, for instance,
even though such scenes form the essence of the movie and are
inextricably linked to its theme.
As a result, we the visually impaired, are far lagging behind in
comprehending the social life about us.
I do recall an instance where I myself, even though I was past the age
of sweet twenty and two, instinctively rubbed my hands clean when kissed
good night by an interested and interesting friend of mine some decade
and a half ago.
Let us cast away our artificial reserve and strive for accessibility in
all fields.
Life, by default is sharply constricted due to any disability, let us
not constrict it further by man made objections.
Yes, if the group is strictly confined by legality of the matters to be
discussed or otherwise, then I think we must adhere by guidelines and
discuss such vital issues in private or on other fora.
Regards
Rajesh
-----Original Message-----
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Shadab
Husain
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 7:18 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] querry from thahir
This is open shamelessness! I will humbly urge the moderator to
immediately
blackball these two raunchy members from the list. Shadab Husain
Easy tips of improving English at
http://shadablucknow.blogspot.com/
My contributions to the press
http://shadablucknow.blogspot.com/2008/10/my-contributions-to-press.html#link
Many posts on one page
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Shyam M. Sayanekar" <sayane...@gmail.com>
To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 11:08 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] querry from thahir
Dear Thahir, very good, you have voiced the issue dear to the hearts of
many. Thanks a lot.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Thahir P C" <pctha...@gmail.com>
To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:26 PM
Subject: [AI] querry from thahir
friends,
are there sites or blogs on the internet which provide pornographic
material specially meant for visually impaired?
Regards,
Thahir.
E mail: pctha...@gmail.com
skype: pcthahir
phone: 0496 2522242
mobile: 9495743001
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