A request to NAB: why don't you inform us in AI about the meeting or take suggestions from us before they are being suggested. Lately, I have not been following the discussion on this topic, but I don't remember to have seen anyone asking for suggestions. If such suggestions have been asked pl ignore this.
Subramani -----Original Message----- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of harish Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 7:44 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] FW: [nab_friends] Note on Meeting Held on 25 May,2009 with RBI Officer Hello all Firstly, the mint is under GOI and it is not RBI. It is distressing or I may say outrageous to see NAB settling for symbols and not insisting on the change of shapes. We will end with the same situation in which symbols are placed on currency notes and we all all well know how useful it is or contributes to accessibility. We did have coins of square, octogonal and other shapes in the past. Circular shape is certainly not so sacrocent as it is made up in this report. There is so many variations you can make in shapes if only one has the intention and one can achieve even with minimal intelligence. I am too worked up to find how we can reverse thisact of stupidity. Reverse we must. Harish. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Srinivasu" <sriniv...@srinivasu.org> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 12:15 PM Subject: [AI] FW: [nab_friends] Note on Meeting Held on 25 May,2009 with RBI Officer > >From another list with my reply there. > > > > > > _____ > > From: Srinivasu Chakravarthula > Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 12:15 PM > To: 'nab_frie...@yahoogroups.co.in' > Subject: RE: [nab_friends] Note on Meeting Held on 25 May, 2009 with RBI > Officer > > > > This sounds to me a good to start with. Suggestions made by Mr. Dandia are > good. Having said, that, in case of coins, why not to insist for numbers > in > Braille too? As we would love them on the lifts in buildings and at many > places and why not for currency that's an important thing in our lives. > > > > Just my $ 0.02 > > > > Regards, > > Srinivasu > > > > > > _____ > > From: nab_frie...@yahoogroups.co.in [mailto:nab_frie...@yahoogroups.co.in] > On Behalf Of mugdha kulkarni > Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 11:59 AM > To: nab_frie...@yahoogroups.co.in > Subject: [nab_friends] Note on Meeting Held on 25 May, 2009 with RBI > Officer > > > > > > > > > Note on Meeting Held on 25 May, 2009 > > A meeting was organized in the office of Mr. Pravin Dandia Hon. Secretary > with Mr. K.K. Tiwari, Dy. General Manager, India Government Mint, on 25th > May, 2009 at 3.30 p.m. to discuss the issues regarding problems which the > blind persons are facing as to newly introduced Rs.10/- coins and many > other > coins. Mugdha A. Kulkarni, Asst. Director, Advocacy Dept. was also present > for the meeting. The main points discussed in the meeting are as follows-: > > > > 1. Firstly Mr. Dandia, explained Mr. Tiwari the exact nature of the > problems > which the blind persons are facing regarding newly introduced Rs.10/- > coins > and many other coins like Rs. 2/- Rs.5/- etc. Due to the same size and > shape > of newly introduced Rs.10/- coin and Rs. 2/- , Rs.5/- coins visually > impaired persons are finding it difficult to differentiate between these > two > coins. Also many a times it is observed that in a rush timings, they can > give 5/- coin instead of 2/- coin and vis-a-versa, which can cause > monitory > loss to visually impaired persons. Also blind people working as clerks, > telephone booth operators, or blind commuters traveling daily by bus > and/or > train or any public transport, may come across the problems due to same > size > and shapes of coins, which may lead to non-cooperation from booking clerk, > ticket conductor, public servants, and a public at large. > > > > 2. After listening to these problems Mr. K.K.Tiwari, observed some > demonstrations as to how a visually impaired person can not differentiate > between 10/-, 5/- and 2/- coin. Even there was confusion between 2/- coin, > 10/- coin and a coin introduced in memory of Lui Braille. Thus he realized > the gravity of the problem. Then Mr. Dandia requested him to take some > measures while introducing new coins, in future. > > > > 3. Mr. Tiwari then requested Mr. Dandia, that he should give some > suggestions in this regard as officers can not think about the > difficulties > which the blind persons are facing and even the solutions for the same. > > > > > > 4. Mr. Dandia then discussed regarding 3-4 suggestions. They are as > follows-: > > a. Shape- > > We suggested that shape of the coin should be some different than the > round shape. For eg. Hexagonal, pentagonal etc. But Mr. Tiwari informed us > that, according to govt. criteria, they have to maintain the shape as > round > shape. > > b. Size- > > We suggested that size of the coin should be bigger than Rs. 5/- and > 2/- > coin. It will enable any visually impaired person to compare these coins > by > putting one upon another, and thus to differentiate between these coins. > > c. Cuts on the edges (bladed edge)- > > There are cuts on the edges of Rs. 5/- coin. Similarly if the > authority > can provide the same to the Rs. 10/- coin, it would be easier for any > visually impaired person to differentiate the coins by keeping the idea in > his mind that, "smaller coin with the cuts on edge is Rs. 2/- and bigger > coin with the cuts on edge is Rs. 10/- ." > > d. Thickness- > > We suggested that, if the thickness of the Rs. 10/-coin is increased, > than that of Rs. 5/- or thickness of the Rs. 5/- coin is decreased than > that > of Rs. 10/- then again it would be beneficial for any visually impaired > person to differentiate the coins by keeping the idea in his mind that, > "Thicker coin is of Rs. 10/- and thinner coin is of Rs. 2/- ." But in > opinion to Mr. Tiwari this suggestion is impracticable. > > e. Embossing of some figures on coins- > > We suggested that, if some figures on the Rs. 10/-coin can be embossed > it would be easier for any visually impaired person to feel the symbols, > or > figures for recognizing Rs. 10/- coin. Mr. Tiwari promised us to think > over > on this point. > > > > We concluded the meeting by recollecting all the suggestions, and by > thanking him and R.B.I. for visiting NAB(I) and listening to our > suggestions. 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