cost mettars
mac is costly
but windows xp pay RS3.5k
every one have there options
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From: srikanth kanuri <skp...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [AI] microsoft narrator is the best for sure great fan
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you can never compare voice over and microsoft narrator. voice over is
excellently rich in its features where narrator had nothing of it. it
contains all the features which a built in screen readers should have.
having used voice over for some time it is the best always compared to
many screen readers. there are many podcasts on blind cool tech which
anyone can listen to and are live recorded demonstrations and not just
reviews.
further even with I Phone 3 g voice over helps to control the touch
enabled screen with help of finger movements.
in snow leopard.
Controlling your Mac with touch and sound.
New in Snow Leopard is the ability to control VoiceOver with gestures
on your Mac notebook?s Multi-Touch trackpad. The trackpad surface can
represent the
active window on your computer screen. So you can touch to hear the
item under your finger, drag to hear items continuously as you move
your finger, and
flick with one finger to move to the next or previous item. For
example, you can drag your finger around the trackpad to learn how
items are arranged in
a web page, a spreadsheet, a presentation, or any document with text.
everyone will have their own preferences but it is no where useless
compared to narrator.
On 12/11/09, Ravi Paul <ravipaul.cha...@gmail.com> wrote:
Are you one of those who used Mac and Voice over? or at least, what
does your research suggest about Apple's pretentions in relation to
accessibility - as your original post suggests? what prompts you to
put microsoft and Apple in the same group in terms of effort for
accessibility? Can you point me towards any review that says Apple is
not making any effort?
Note: I am not interested in personal battles, so comments related to
my age or any such thing will be ignored. We are discussing about
accessibility, and let us stay there.
Ravi Paul
On 12/11/09, vadhimoo...@gmail.com <vadhimoo...@gmail.com> wrote:
Time to grow-up! Disagreements need to be expressed in certain ways and
it
seems that you have long way to go. For those who tried the apple
computer
know very well the difference between standard paid screen readers for
windows and the in-build screen readers for mac. don't go by what is
written
on the book or the site that are bombarded with rosy pictures, rather go
by
user's experience.
Vetri.
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Subject: Re: [AI] microsoft narrator is the best for sure great fan
From: Ravi Paul <ravipaul.cha...@gmail.com>
Date: 12/11/2009 1:47 AM
Mac's in-built screen reader is an accessibility eye-wash? look at these
links:
http://www.apple.com/accessibility/voiceover/
http://www.afb.org/afbpress/Pub.asp?DocID=aw090603#content
Again, making generalizations without any backing what so ever. I
don't even know if you have used Mac. Of course, even I haven't, but
I have listened to demonstrations on websites.
There are other efforts Apple has made in relation to accessibility,
but as you mentioned MAC, I thought these are websites that will get
you out of your ignorence in this regard.
I don't want to go on and on, but the generalizations are gobsmaking
to say the least...
Regards, Ravi Paul
On 12/11/09, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan <vadhimoo...@gmail.com> wrote:
Personally, Microsoft narator and Mac's in-build screen reader are
nothing bugt eyewash in the name of accesibility. But it does not mean
that one should make use of it when it is required. So to borrow the
earlier expression, I am certain a narator basher, but at the same
time a practical personal to suck the benifit of out whatever little
one can get.
Vetri.
On 10/12/2009, srikanth kanuri <skp...@gmail.com> wrote:
hi all, for narrators voice quality and support i dont even give it a
single try at least the one which bundled with X.P dont know much
about narrator of windows 7. i in my opinion does not give a 1 %
chance of comparing it to voice over where later is brilliant which is
trying to include touch screen support for its users also. yes
microsoft shall definitely improve its support as most of screen
reader users depend on windows of course some people would like to
switch to orca on Linux or voice over.
On 12/10/09, Subramani L <lsubram...@deccanherald.co.in> wrote:
Of course, without MS-bashing, I must say that you are right.
Subramani
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Subject: Re: [AI] microsoft narrator is the best for sure great fan
Dear Subramani sir:
You are right, Microsoft should provide a full-fledged screen reader
along with their Operating System (Windows). I strongly incline that
they should improve the standard and quality of Narrator itself. But
I
don't believe Microsoft, as it has done almost nothing for making
their and 'others' software applications accessible, as far as I'm
concerned. I'm not denying its contribution in the form of Narrator
and accessible Windows, Internet explorer and so on. But I think
before we expect something from them, we should exert lot of pressure
and make them understand our difficulties in accessing their
operating
systems. Yet Windows is les qualified than Macintosh in quality and
asurance, as far as I'm concerned.
Yet these are highly layman's opinions only.
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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 23:12:01 +0530
From: govind reddy <sgred...@gmail.com>
Subject: [AI] Some good websites for submitting some free articles
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Dear list members:
Could any one give me the list of some good websites for uploading
some free articles on various topics? I collected a list from google,
but they are of three years old. Meanwhile how to represent a company
while writing an article of that company. How to conclude an article
while giving an URL of that site?
I got www.articlesbase.com
It's very accessible. Such web sites are well
Any other tips on SEO writings are welcome.
--
With Warm Regards,
"Don't call me a flower, I'll dry up; Don't call me a deer, I'll run
away; Don't call me a moon, I'll wane away; Call me a shadow, I'll be
with you always."
Govind.
Mobile: 9959392651, 9030915271.
Email: sgred...@gmail.com
My blog:
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