Privilege depends upon the issuers, not on the wish of beneficiaries.
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From: "Subramani L" <lsubram...@deccanherald.co.in>
To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 4:34 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister
If so why not that be extended to Shatabhdi and Rajdhani as well?
Subramani
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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal Verma
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 1:08 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister
Concession ticket is not our right. Its our privilege. Hence we should
not
demand for any more concession.
Thanks.
Kamal Verma
----- Original Message -----
From: "Namita Agarwal" <namitaagarwa...@gmail.com>
To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister
can you add Concessional tickets for rajdhani trains too .
reason it consumes lesser time and the train is a little more hygenic
.this is for out stationed trains, this is from a ladies or from my
point of view.
regards namita.
On 2/11/10, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote:
Well, Nilesh
Handicapped, or rather disabled coach, is not connected to general
coach,
but it is placed adjacent to it.
It is not vestibuled to any coach at present.
Placing at extremities makes its location uncertain beside rendering
it
difficult, nay impossible many times to board conveniently due to no
overhead shade at the end of platform, and at times, no platform
floor
extending to cover all coaches.
Suggestion of two coaches is most unlikely to be accepted, and so, I
maintain the stand that the disabled coach be vestibuled in the
approximate
middle,
Regarding rush, less said better, however, in the middle rush
comprises
those of traveling in reserved compartments and not those in general
so
logically it should be less and relatively well behaved.
Regards
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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of nilesh
sonar
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:21 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister
hello all
I really appreciate this step
And find it well drafted
I have some more suggestion
Many a time the handicap coach is connected to the general coach
because of this ordinary person who is in hurry to get in to the
train occupy the handicap coach, In such situation it is vary
difficult to any disabled person to find a seat or get in to the
train.
Solution:
The handicap coach should not connected to the general coach.
I thing there should be two handicap coach one at front in the
first coach and secand at last before Gards coach.
I think keeping handicap coach in the middle of the train will
cause
inconveniency
Because during arrival and departure there is to much rush on the
platform comparatively it is less at frunt and back side of the
train and it is vary easy to find also.
from nilesh
Mo: 9226448091
On 2/10/10, Kotian, H P <hpkot...@rbi.org.in> wrote:
Hello All
Placed below is the draft petition which we shall be sending to the
railway
minister. If there is any omission pl let us know by feb 11.
Let me clarify, we have only mentioned visually disabled as we
believe
we
should speak for that sectorfor which we are qualified to do so.
Otherwise
it would be speaking "for" them and we would be committing the same
error
for which we find uncomfortable when others tend to do for us the
blind.
We shall fully support the endeavor from the other segment of the
disabled.
We shall also include in this petition if it comes from those
persons or
representative organizations.
Pl read on
Warmly
Harish Kotian
Honorable Minister for Railways
Respected Madam
Accessibility policy in the railway budget
On behalf of the blind community and disability community at large,
we
request you to include an accessibility policy while presenting the
forthcoming railway budget.
Justification: A large number of disabled passengers avail the
services
of
the railways and find the services to be unfriendly and not meeting
the
minimum accessibility requirements under the law. This has resulted
in
needless hardship and accidents which could have been easily
avoided.
This
Grimm outlook however, can be reversed with an effective,
comprehensive
accessibility policy.
Scope: It should touch all services rendered by the railways and
should
not
only cover the passengers but should also extend to all disabled
employees.
We would like the railways to also be the largest equal opportunity
employer.
Problems faced by blind passengers and solutions:
Problem: The ticket clerks often are unwilling to issue concessional
tickets
despite possessing valid concession certificates.
Solution: proper awareness training be imparted and the practice of
deducting the differential amount in case of erroneous concession
ticket
from the salary of the concerned clerk be done away with. Only a
penalty
be
imposed.
Problem: Concessional tickets cannot be booked on the online portal.
Solution: e booking of concession tickets be introduced either by
creating
facilities for uploading scanned copy of disability certificate and
verifying it during journey, or by requiring one-time registration
of
all
disability certificates in a centralized database at
the time of booking first e ticket by a disabled passenger.
Problem: Many accidents are caused by blind persons falling to the
tracks
from the platform.
Solution: This can be avoided if tactile markings are made on the
edges
of
the platforms. Similar tactile marking should be made on the
platform to
guide blind persons to lead to the exit, bridges, ticketing
counters,
coach
for the disabled etc. The tactile markings should also be painted
with
high
contrast color for low vision persons.
Problem: Accidents are also caused by blind persons slipping into
the
space
between compartments.
Solution: This gap should be filled up appropriately.
Problem: There is general lack of information, not only to disabled
passengers but also to all passengers about approaching station,
time of
arrival there etc.
Solution: There should be internal announcement announcing the
direction
and
the name of the approaching station.
Problem: The status of disabled or handicapped coach is far from
clear.
On
one hand, it is meant for disabled travelers with general tickets
and on
the
other hand, nowadays, reservations in Handicapped quota are being
allotted
in handicapped coach. Further, there is always confusion regarding
whether
a
particular train does have handicapped coach and if yes, where it is
exactly
located, whether in the front or at back. This requires disabled
passengers
to run helter-skelter for locating it, defeating the very purpose of
such
a
coach. Further, more often than not, it is occupied by able bodied
unauthorized passengers and is not vestibuled rendering seeking any
assistance by disabled passengers from RPF or ticket checking staff
extremely difficult.
Solution: Handicapped coach be clearly designated for travelers with
disabilities and their escorts with general ordinary tickets and
reservations in handicapped quota berths be given in the sleeper
coach
as
was being done earlier. This would fulfill the purpose of the
handicapped
coach in the true sense of the term. All the coaches in the train
and
toilets in them be made disabled friendly.
The handicapped coach be vestibuled and placed approximately in the
middle
of the train, to avoid difficulties in locating it and also from
safety
point of view, as assistance can be readily sought by disabled
passengers
in
case of unauthorized occupancy and such passengers shifted to
adjacent
coaches, or in case of any emergency.
There should be a facilitation counter to help senior citizens,
patients
and
disabled passengers
Such an accessibility policy should invariably have definite funds
allocated
to it and must have specified targets to be achieved in the year.
There should be a theme based annual accessibility audit. Its
findings
should be posted at the railway's portal.
There should be a statement on accessibility in every railway
budget.
Benefit: It would not only help the disabled, but would be generally
useful
to all passengers. It would also be conforming to international
treaties
and
best practices.
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