Thank you for your information. I tried two times. But they did not give me.
By any chance, can you please send me the document which shows that we can
get concession in second A C? regards,

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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Madhu Singhal
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 11:38 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railway Minister

Dear Members,
They do provide concession in two tire ac that is fifty persent.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Srikanth Bolla" <presidentsrika...@gmail.com>
To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railway Minister


> Hi every one! This is Srikanth. They are providing concession till three
> tire A C. if possible, can we request them to provide concession for  A C
> two tire also? Regards,
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 11:11 AM
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> Subject: Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister
>
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "srikanth kanuri" <skp...@gmail.com>
> To: "Vetrivel Adhimoolam" <vadhimoo...@gmail.com>;
> <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister
>
>
>> Harish, it is a well drafted letter a small suggestion
>>
>>
>> Once i have carried a
>> printed reservation form to the Counter which is available from their
>> websight only. the counter rejected on the reason that it had to be a
>> written one. how strange it was but he asks me to write the form there
>> although it is in full printed shape. a request shall be made that
>> they have to accept the printed forms in the reservation counters as
>> we could not write the prescribed form that will bee given there.
>>
>> If possible all the platforms and coaches shall be braille labeled.
>> The chart on the handicapped coach shall also be braille labeled so
>> that we can identify our names presented there.
>>
>> and finally i thank everyone for this initiative which will benefit all.
>>
>> On 2/10/10, Vetrivel Adhimoolam <vadhimoo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> It is a well drafted letter, but I would like a couple of things to be
>>> included:
>>>
>>> 1. Railway platform numbers should be marked with braile. Same thing
>>> applies
>>> to the disabled coatches.
>>>
>>> 2. Because visually impaired persons mostly come from families that are
>>> mostly uneducated, many of them face hardship in filling out reservation
>>> forms and thus they are largely forced to seek stranger's assistance.
>>> Given
>>> that it is important that railway authorities consider this as the
>>> accessibility issue and take appropriate steps to address this issue.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Vetri.
>>>
>>> --------
>>> Produced in my Nokia N82 via T-mobile internet using talks, a screen
>>> reader
>>> for S60 phones.
>>>
>>> -original message-
>>> Subject: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister
>>> From: "Kotian, H P" <hpkot...@rbi.org.in>
>>> Date: 02/10/2010 2:42 AM
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello All
>>>
>>> Placed below is the draft petition which we shall be sending to the
>>> railway
>>> minister. If there is any omission pl let us know by feb 11.
>>>
>>> Let me clarify, we have only mentioned visually disabled as we believe 
>>> we
>>> should speak for that sectorfor which we are qualified to do so.
>>> Otherwise
>>> it would be speaking "for" them and we would be committing the same 
>>> error
>>> for which we find uncomfortable when others tend to do for us the blind.
>>>
>>> We shall fully support the endeavor from the other segment of the
>>> disabled.
>>> We shall also include in this petition if it comes from those persons or
>>> representative organizations.
>>>
>>> Pl read on
>>> Warmly
>>> Harish Kotian
>>> Honorable Minister for Railways
>>> Respected Madam
>>>
>>>             Accessibility policy in the railway budget
>>>
>>> On behalf of the blind community and disability community at large, we
>>> request you to include an accessibility policy while presenting the
>>> forthcoming railway budget.
>>>
>>> Justification:  A large number of disabled passengers avail the services
>>> of
>>> the railways and find the services to be unfriendly and not meeting the
>>> minimum accessibility requirements under the law. This has resulted in
>>> needless hardship and accidents which could have been easily avoided.
>>> This
>>> Grimm outlook however, can be reversed with an effective, comprehensive
>>> accessibility policy.
>>>
>>> Scope: It should touch all services rendered by the railways and should
>>> not
>>> only cover the passengers but should also extend to all disabled
>>> employees.
>>> We would like the railways to also be the largest equal opportunity
>>> employer.
>>>
>>> Problems faced by blind passengers and solutions:
>>>
>>> Problem: The ticket clerks often are unwilling to issue concessional
>>> tickets
>>> despite possessing valid concession certificates.
>>> Solution: proper awareness training be imparted and the practice of
>>> deducting the differential amount in case of erroneous concession ticket
>>> from the salary of the concerned clerk be done away with. Only a penalty
>>> be
>>> imposed.
>>>
>>> Problem: Concessional tickets cannot be booked on the online portal.
>>> Solution: e booking of concession tickets be introduced either by
>>> creating
>>> facilities for uploading scanned copy of disability certificate and
>>> verifying it during journey, or by requiring one-time registration of 
>>> all
>>> disability certificates in a centralized database at
>>>
>>> the time of booking first e ticket by a disabled passenger.
>>>
>>> Problem: Many accidents are caused by blind persons falling to the 
>>> tracks
>>> from the platform.
>>> Solution: This can be avoided if tactile markings are made on the edges
>>> of
>>> the platforms. Similar tactile marking should be made on the platform to
>>> guide blind persons to lead to the exit, bridges, ticketing counters,
>>> coach
>>> for the disabled etc. The tactile markings should also be painted with
>>> high
>>> contrast color for low vision persons.
>>>
>>> Problem: Accidents are also caused by blind persons slipping into the
>>> space
>>> between compartments.
>>> Solution: This gap should be filled up appropriately.
>>>
>>> Problem: There is general lack of information, not only to disabled
>>> passengers but also to all passengers about approaching station, time of
>>> arrival there etc.
>>> Solution: There should be internal announcement announcing the direction
>>> and
>>> the name of the approaching station.
>>>
>>> Problem: The status of disabled or handicapped coach is far from clear.
>>> On
>>> one hand, it is meant for disabled travelers with general tickets and on
>>> the
>>> other hand, nowadays, reservations in Handicapped quota are being
>>> allotted
>>> in handicapped coach. Further, there is always confusion regarding
>>> whether a
>>> particular train does have handicapped coach and if yes, where it is
>>> exactly
>>> located, whether in the front or at back. This requires disabled
>>> passengers
>>> to run helter-skelter for locating it, defeating the very purpose of 
>>> such
>
>>> a
>>> coach. Further, more often than not, it is occupied by able bodied
>>> unauthorized passengers and is not vestibuled rendering seeking any
>>> assistance by disabled passengers from RPF or ticket checking staff
>>> extremely difficult.
>>> Solution: Handicapped coach be clearly designated for travelers with
>>> disabilities and their escorts with general ordinary tickets and
>>> reservations in handicapped quota berths be given in the sleeper coach 
>>> as
>>> was being done earlier. This would fulfill the purpose of the 
>>> handicapped
>>> coach in the true sense of the term. All the coaches in the train and
>>>
>>> toilets in them be made disabled friendly.
>>> The handicapped coach be vestibuled and placed approximately in the
>>> middle
>>> of the train, to avoid difficulties in locating it and also from safety
>>> point of view, as assistance can be readily sought by disabled 
>>> passengers
>
>>> in
>>> case of unauthorized occupancy and such passengers shifted to adjacent
>>> coaches, or in case of any emergency.
>>> There should be a facilitation counter to help senior citizens, patients
>>> and
>>> disabled passengers
>>>
>>>
>>> Such an accessibility policy should invariably have definite funds
>>> allocated
>>> to it and must have specified targets to be achieved in the year.
>>>
>>> There should be a theme based annual accessibility audit. Its findings
>>> should be posted at the railway's portal.
>>> There should be a statement on accessibility in every railway budget.
>>>
>>> Benefit: It would not only help the disabled, but would be generally
>>> useful
>>> to all passengers. It would also be conforming to international treaties
>>> and
>>> best practices.
>>>
>>>
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