Hi all,
I normally don't post anything to this listing but I have been reading
all comments that have been put up regarding audio description on
Bollywood films and I feel compelled to reply to all the
queries/comments that have been taking the rounds. Let me start by
giving a brief introduction, I am the International Projects Development
Officer with the Media and Culture Department at RNIB and amongst other
initiatives, I am working on the access solution for Bollywood films
keeping in mind its blind and partially audiences in the UK.
We were quite glad that media across the world covered the launch of AD
on Bollywood films with such enthusiasm but what they failed to mention
in their coverage was that that the film 'My name is Khan' will be
available with audio description only in the UK cinemas and not anywhere
else.
All cinema prints of MNIK released in the UK were accompanied by AD.
Unfortunately, the prints released elsewhere in the world did not have
AD with it. The film company has not released a DVD of the film as yet
but the UK DVD release that is scheduled for June 12, 2010 is likely to
have the AD track on it. It is highly unlikely that the one that will
release in India or elsewhere in the world will have the AD track on
them.
I will try and explain why this happened: Audio description, very much
like subtitling, is provided and paid for by the distributor of a film.
In this case, the 20th Century Fox. But the distributor in India is Star
Fox and the UK distributor is 20th Century Fox International. Even
though the parent company is the same, they are completely separate
operating units with separate revenue streams. We managed to convince
the 20th Century Fox International, the UK distributor to describe
their Bollywood release like they describe all their Hollywood releases
and they did but the guys back in India were completely ignorant of the
request. Even now the film is soon going to be released on the DVD, it
is likely that the AD track will be available on the DVD released in the
UK but not on the DVD released in India. It's quite sad and even people
back at Dharma Productions have been as dismissive of the situation as
they can be. The only way that comes into my mind to tackle this issue
is by writing to them till the time they acknowledge that it is a
problem and are ready to do something about it. You can find their
contact details on this link:
http://www3.dharma-production.com/contactus.html. The more they hear
about it from people, the more convinced they are going to be about
adding AD.
At the same time, Eros International, another Bollywood distributor has
been great and are trying to work with us to make their films accessible
by adding AD. Their first release is VEER- the DVD of this film will be
available in India with AD. You should be able to walk into your Planet
M anytime and pick up a copy. VEER is the first one in the world to be
made available on the DVD so if you happen to watch it, please do send
us your feedback. We would be keen to hear what people have to say about
the new development.
And if you have any further questions, please do let not hesitate to
write to me.
Best regards,
Sonali Rai
International Development Officer
Media and Culture Department
Royal National Institute of Blind People
105 Judd Street
London
WC1H 9NE
Tel: 020 7391 3270
Fax: 020 7387 7109
sonali....@rnib.org.uk
www.rnib.org.uk/audiodescription
Audio Description is a free service that transforms the enjoyment of TV,
Film, Theatre and sports events for people with sight problems.
Audio description is now available on television and DVD, as well as in
cinemas, theatres, museums, galleries and sports venues. For more
information go to www.rnib.org.uk/audiodescription
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2. Re: regarding 3g phone (Himanshu Sahu)
3. Re: Disclosing disability in CV (akhilesh)
4. A request (Asudani, Rajesh)
5. Resolution in favoure of providing currect and true
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6. Re: Disclosing disability in CV (Shadab Husain)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 13:17:09 +0530
From: "Asudani, Rajesh" <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in>
To: "accessindia@accessindia.org.in" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: DVD of a Bollywood film with Audio Description
in Hindi available worldwide for the first time.
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I meant to ask about audio description which they said MNIK has.
Inbuilt narration is a part of many movies, but it hardly gives all the
details of visuals.
Regards
"Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create
Him."
--Arthur C. Clarke
(Rajesh Asudani)
Assistant General Manager,
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[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Namita
Agarwal
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 11:14 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: DVD of a Bollywood film with Audio Description in
Hindi available worldwide for the first time.
I have had an experience of watching this movie on cable ,mr khan is
narrating in the movie,the dialogue is quite clear to understand .
Only 2 places I had to ask what is happening .for those who can't hear
lip reading is clearly visible or which dialogue is not seen is shown
by action.
Very good script.
_______
regards namita.
On 4/26/10, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote:
What happened to audio description of MNIK?
Has nobody enjoyed it yet?
Regards
"Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create
Him."
--Arthur C. Clarke
(Rajesh Asudani)
Assistant General Manager,
Reserve Bank of India
Nagpur
09420397185
O: 0712 2806676
Res: 0712 2591349
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[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kanchan
Pamnani
Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 10:35 PM
To: Access India; Voice Vision. ; rpp-in...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AI] Fw: DVD of a Bollywood film with Audio Description in
Hindi
available worldwide for the first time.
i am forwarding a mail that I just received which is of interest to
all of
us. Kanchan
The Royal National Institute of Blind People's campaign for Audio
Description has resulted in several major distributors of Hollywood
films
releasing their DVDs with an AD track in the UK. Now, for the first
time,
the DVD of a Bollywood film with an AD track in Hindi will be made
available
across the world.
Eros International's VEER, a love story set in the historical context
of the
British rule in India has resulted in a modern day British-Indian
collaboration, making Veer the first Bollywood film to have an
audio-description (AD) track in Hindi on its DVD. UK-based Royal
National
Institute of Blind People (RNIB) worked with Eros International to
achieve
this milestone after its research among blind or partially sighted
people of
Asian origin in the UK and India found that over 70 per cent of
respondents
were more likely to watch Bollywood films if AD in Hindi was provided.
Veer DVD hits stores worldwide on 24th April 2010.
feel free to contact me for any further information.
Best regards,
Sonali Rai
International Development Officer
Media and Culture Department
Royal National Institute of Blind People
105 Judd Street
London
WC1H 9NE
Tel: 020 7391 3270
Fax: 020 7387 7109
sonali....@rnib.org.uk
www.rnib.org.uk/audiodescription
Audio Description is a free service that transforms the enjoyment of
TV,
Film, Theatre and sports events for people with sight problems.
Audio description is now available on television and DVD, as well as
in
cinemas, theatres, museums, galleries and sports venues. For more
information go to www.rnib.org.uk/audiodescription
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Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 13:31:21 +0530
From: Himanshu Sahu <sahu.himanshu2...@gmail.com>
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] regarding 3g phone
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Dear friends,
Nokia N 79 also has front camera. But the sound quality and volume
level is quite low.
On 4/26/10, Praful Vyas <prafulnv...@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear members,
Nokia e 63 3g mobile is best sound quality and battory backup with
screen
reader support.
I am using since one month.
Praful Vyas.
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To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 10:12 PM
Subject: [AI] regarding 3g phone
Dear members,Is nokian 79, and e 63 3g mobile? if not please tell me
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selecting 3g mobile with best sound quality and battory backup with
screen
reader support.
thanks and regards-
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 01:09:06 -0800
From: akhilesh <akhil.akhi...@gmail.com>
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Disclosing disability in CV
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Hi mr. Sameer,
Undoubtedly you?ve raised an important issue, and it seems that we're
all agreeing on the fact that the disability should be disclosed.
However, as you've said, the interviewer tends to skip such
information, so it seems no use of mentioning your disability.
I personally think that it should be highlighted in such a way, that
it could attract the attention at 2nd or 3rd glance of your CV.
Asterisk it, bold it, but it should stand separate of cv?s format.
Thanks,
Akhilesh.
On 4/25/10, harish <har...@accessindia.org.in> wrote:
Hi
To add to the discussion, you can also enlist contact info of a few
blind
persons who could be reffered with a brief description of the work
profile.
Pl do take care in, first, seeking confirmation from the persons
reffered
and that they are also persuing an occupation similar to the job in
question.
This will help in easing the concerns and apprehensiveness in their
mind.
Harish.
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Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 10:21 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Disclosing disability in CV
Hi,
I second Subramani sir's opinion.
Besides, exposing our disability before the employer is inevitable.
And by hiding it in the CV, we are only postponing the inevitable.
When we mention about our disability in the CV, we should make sure
that we also mention the coping strategies like mobility, assistive
technology etc. And also, as we know the job we are going to do, we
should write how we think we are fit for handling that particular job
despite the disability.
Leave the standard format of CV and customise it to each and every
job applied for.
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On 4/25/10, Subramani L <lsubram...@deccanherald.co.in> wrote:
Despite being a disadvantage, I strongly feel the disability of a
person
must be clearly mentioned in a separate section ccalled "Disability"
and
a proper description of it. Hiding it would make you guilty of
concealing a fact that is vital to the employee's judgement of you.
Since in some cases you may be the first disabled ccandidate to be
appearing for the job, hiding your disability would also imply you
are
not comfortable about your disability, which would never leave you
in a
stronger position to convince your potential employer that your
disability won't come in the way of your ability to perform. Besides
if
you are not comfortable about it, the employee will have all the
good
reasons of not feeling comfortable hiring you.
Hiding it is hardly going to help you, so mention it voluntarily and
show that you have done a good job of dealing with the ccondition
yourself. Surely some employees will see the logic of such an
argument
and -with all your prowess with the PC and internet- may even think
of
giving you a chance.
Subramani
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[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Sameer
Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 1:26 PM
To: Access India
Subject: [AI] Disclosing disability in CV
Dear Friends,
We recently had a discussion on whether we should disclose our
disability
during the ongoing national census. I wish to know the members'
viewpoints
on disclosure of disability in job interviews in cases where there
is no
reservation.
I seek the members' views on the following queries.
1.. Whether we should disclose our disability in the CV sent to
prospective employers, job consultants or posted on various job
portals?
2.. In case we decide to disclose our disability in the CV, where
should
it be disclosed? Assuming the CV has 4 sections - General
Information,
Educational record, work experience & salary details, where should
the
disability be disclosed & in what manner?
3.. In case we are called for a job interview, should we check in
advance
whether the company will be willing to consider us inspite of our
disability? This query is more relevant in case we have not
disclosed
our
disability in the CV since some blind friends who had not disclosed
their
blindness were refused permission even to appear for the interview
when
they
reached the employer's office. Also, it has been observed that
inspite
of
disclosing disability, interviewers tend to skip over the
information &
they
are surprised when they realize the interviewee is blind.
Seeking the learned members views on the above queries.
Regards
Mr. Sameer Latey,
Mumbai, India
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 14:50:18 +0530
From: "Asudani, Rajesh" <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in>
To: "accessindia@accessindia.org.in" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Subject: [AI] A request
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Friends
I am in urgent need of two dll files, namely:
DBGHELP.DLL
AND
RPCSS.DLL
I know they can be downloaded from net, but the site requires captcha
verification.
I do not have a reliable sighted assistance at hand.
So anybody who happens to have discerning sighted human around, or can
do the job with webvisum, would you please send in the two files by
evening?
Ps: I was particularly put back by phraseology of the site while
introducing captcha: they said,
:"Are you human?"
then came the edit box.
Now, I am human, but require a human with sight, to do the need full.
So please if somebody could volunteer....
I can not open the required sites from home, where such assistance is
available, as the said dll files are missing, and so the system is
erratic.
Regards
"Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create
Him."
--Arthur C. Clarke
(Rajesh Asudani)
Assistant General Manager,
Reserve Bank of India
Nagpur
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Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 16:28:07 +0530
From: "gautam" <gtm.agra...@gmail.com>
To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Subject: [AI] Resolution in favoure of providing currect and true
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All friends,
Keeping all the facts in view which have been brought to our notice
during
last few days we should unanimously resolve here to provide all correct
and
true informations about our disability in forth coming national senses
and
in unified identity card format and spread a clear message to all of our
other friends to do the same. As many A.I. friends have expressed, the
inclusion of the informations regarding disability in senses will go a
long
way for empowerment of our multimillion peers who have so for been
unreachable to global movement of rehabilitation and development.
Gautam Agarwal
President,
National Federation of the Blind,
Karnataka
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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Tushar
Kansara
Sent: 25 April 2010 20:15
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Disclosing disability in CV
TRY SHOWING ABILITIES
LOTS OF POSITIVE ABILITIES INSPITE OF BEING DIFFERENTLY ABLE IN SIGHT
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Subramani L
<lsubram...@deccanherald.co.in>wrote:
Despite being a disadvantage, I strongly feel the disability of a
person
must be clearly mentioned in a separate section ccalled "Disability"
and
a proper description of it. Hiding it would make you guilty of
concealing a fact that is vital to the employee's judgement of you.
Since in some cases you may be the first disabled ccandidate to be
appearing for the job, hiding your disability would also imply you are
not comfortable about your disability, which would never leave you in
a
stronger position to convince your potential employer that your
disability won't come in the way of your ability to perform. Besides
if
you are not comfortable about it, the employee will have all the good
reasons of not feeling comfortable hiring you.
Hiding it is hardly going to help you, so mention it voluntarily and
show that you have done a good job of dealing with the ccondition
yourself. Surely some employees will see the logic of such an argument
and -with all your prowess with the PC and internet- may even think of
giving you a chance.
Subramani
-----Original Message-----
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Sameer
Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 1:26 PM
To: Access India
Subject: [AI] Disclosing disability in CV
Dear Friends,
We recently had a discussion on whether we should disclose our
disability
during the ongoing national census. I wish to know the members'
viewpoints
on disclosure of disability in job interviews in cases where there is
no
reservation.
I seek the members' views on the following queries.
1.. Whether we should disclose our disability in the CV sent to
prospective employers, job consultants or posted on various job
portals?
2.. In case we decide to disclose our disability in the CV, where
should
it be disclosed? Assuming the CV has 4 sections - General Information,
Educational record, work experience & salary details, where should the
disability be disclosed & in what manner?
3.. In case we are called for a job interview, should we check in
advance
whether the company will be willing to consider us inspite of our
disability? This query is more relevant in case we have not disclosed
our
disability in the CV since some blind friends who had not disclosed
their
blindness were refused permission even to appear for the interview
when
they
reached the employer's office. Also, it has been observed that inspite
of
disclosing disability, interviewers tend to skip over the information
&
they
are surprised when they realize the interviewee is blind.
Seeking the learned members views on the above queries.
Regards
Mr. Sameer Latey,
Mumbai, India
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Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 17:20:42 +0530
From: Shadab Husain <shadab...@gmail.com>
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Disclosing disability in CV
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On the other hand, seeing the trend of unacceptability, I am afraid -
there is a possibility that the moment the employer would read about
disability, he will reject the CV.
Hiding the disability, or to put it more appropriately, not mentioning
it in the CV should also be taken into consideration. If the CV is
shortlisted, the candidate will get an opportunity to talk up the
disability and demonstrate his abilities provided that he has a
laptop.
Vamshi sir you have wisely advised that the tasks that we can perform
using the assistive technology should be mentioned. But you will
readily agree that still there is a lot of ignorance about the
technology we use, and I know that it is hard to make others
understand that we are quite comfortable with computers.
This was a contrasting opinion, but bringing it forth was necessary so
that we can examine the pros and cons of the thing.
Regards
Shadab
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On 4/26/10, akhilesh <akhil.akhi...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi mr. Sameer,
Undoubtedly you?ve raised an important issue, and it seems that we're
all agreeing on the fact that the disability should be disclosed.
However, as you've said, the interviewer tends to skip such
information, so it seems no use of mentioning your disability.
I personally think that it should be highlighted in such a way, that
it could attract the attention at 2nd or 3rd glance of your CV.
Asterisk it, bold it, but it should stand separate of cv?s format.
Thanks,
Akhilesh.
On 4/25/10, harish <har...@accessindia.org.in> wrote:
Hi
To add to the discussion, you can also enlist contact info of a few
blind
persons who could be reffered with a brief description of the work
profile.
Pl do take care in, first, seeking confirmation from the persons
reffered
and that they are also persuing an occupation similar to the job in
question.
This will help in easing the concerns and apprehensiveness in their
mind.
Harish.
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From: "Vamshi. G" <gvamsh...@gmail.com>
To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 10:21 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Disclosing disability in CV
Hi,
I second Subramani sir's opinion.
Besides, exposing our disability before the employer is inevitable.
And by hiding it in the CV, we are only postponing the inevitable.
When we mention about our disability in the CV, we should make sure
that we also mention the coping strategies like mobility, assistive
technology etc. And also, as we know the job we are going to do, we
should write how we think we are fit for handling that particular
job
despite the disability.
Leave the standard format of CV and customise it to each and every
job applied for.
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On 4/25/10, Subramani L <lsubram...@deccanherald.co.in> wrote:
Despite being a disadvantage, I strongly feel the disability of a
person
must be clearly mentioned in a separate section ccalled
"Disability" and
a proper description of it. Hiding it would make you guilty of
concealing a fact that is vital to the employee's judgement of you.
Since in some cases you may be the first disabled ccandidate to be
appearing for the job, hiding your disability would also imply you
are
not comfortable about your disability, which would never leave you
in a
stronger position to convince your potential employer that your
disability won't come in the way of your ability to perform.
Besides if
you are not comfortable about it, the employee will have all the
good
reasons of not feeling comfortable hiring you.
Hiding it is hardly going to help you, so mention it voluntarily
and
show that you have done a good job of dealing with the ccondition
yourself. Surely some employees will see the logic of such an
argument
and -with all your prowess with the PC and internet- may even think
of
giving you a chance.
Subramani
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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Sameer
Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 1:26 PM
To: Access India
Subject: [AI] Disclosing disability in CV
Dear Friends,
We recently had a discussion on whether we should disclose our
disability
during the ongoing national census. I wish to know the members'
viewpoints
on disclosure of disability in job interviews in cases where there
is no
reservation.
I seek the members' views on the following queries.
1.. Whether we should disclose our disability in the CV sent to
prospective employers, job consultants or posted on various job
portals?
2.. In case we decide to disclose our disability in the CV, where
should
it be disclosed? Assuming the CV has 4 sections - General
Information,
Educational record, work experience & salary details, where should
the
disability be disclosed & in what manner?
3.. In case we are called for a job interview, should we check in
advance
whether the company will be willing to consider us inspite of our
disability? This query is more relevant in case we have not
disclosed
our
disability in the CV since some blind friends who had not disclosed
their
blindness were refused permission even to appear for the interview
when
they
reached the employer's office. Also, it has been observed that
inspite
of
disclosing disability, interviewers tend to skip over the
information &
they
are surprised when they realize the interviewee is blind.
Seeking the learned members views on the above queries.
Regards
Mr. Sameer Latey,
Mumbai, India
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