This is because military is powerful and if they make a noise you can
hear the echo in the Parliament. Whereas if we make noise in front of
the handicapped bogi we would likely be shunted out of the platform.
Subramani
-----Original Message-----
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Tushar
Kansara
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 4:26 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] FW: regarding Handicapped coach
military has got full bogie for itself and they dont even open the door
for
generals
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 3:57 PM, surya narayana
<surya.ga...@gmail.com>wrote:
do you feel that the coach is enough for all these people along with
reservation? if all the two lower berths are reserved for handicapped,
then wat is the status of other general ticket holders let us take
thisssssssisue with railway minister and other officials.
On 5/20/10, Tushar Kansara <tarasn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> amiyo
>
> if u had the reservation ticket with sl1 reservation
> it contains train number
> date
>
> and of course one needs certain communication skills to be able to
have a
> constructive dialogue with the users of the compartment
>
> the lower berth generally gets occupied by seaters and sharers
> and then in the end it is used by the sleeper
>
> so reserved ones take upper berth or keep bag there
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Amiyo Biswas
<amiyo.bis...@gmail.com
>wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I traveled by handicapped couch from Howrah to Delhi by Poorva
Express
in
>> March this year. My reservation was not confirmed and so I had to
use
this
>> facility, in my fellow passengers' terms, at a loss. Anyway, what I
>> understood from the passengers and the RPF on Howrah station is
that if
>> you
>> have a handicapped card and a ticket in any form, you can travel by
this
>> couch. Escorts are also allowed in the same couch for the
convenience of
>> the
>> handicapped passengers. I think, berths in this couch are not
allotted
>> during reservation process.
>>
>>
>> With Best regards,
>> Amiyo Biswas.
>> Cell: 91-9433464329
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "surya narayana" <
surya.ga...@gmail.com
>> >
>> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 2:52 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] FW: regarding Handicapped coach
>>
>>
>>
>> hello friends,
>>> i requested all the guard and railway police force. but no use.
>>> because there was no chart on the compartment containing my
>>> reservation details. even if there's any chart, how can we ask the
>>> handicapped fellow men to vacate the seat? they too have the right
to
>>> sit on the seats as well as other passingers. it is pity to note
that
>>> it is totally irrelavant to make arrangements to reserve seats in
>>> disabled compartment.
>>>
>>> On 5/20/10, Tushar Kansara <tarasn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> the nearest person who can help u in handicapped coach is the
train
>>>> guard
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:26 PM, surya narayana
>>>> <surya.ga...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello sir,
>>>>> I too have a immemorable and bitter experience with handicapped
coach.
>>>>> I was given reservation in that coach and could not find my
berth
>>>>> until i reach visakhapattanam. if you want, i can provide all my
>>>>> experience. basically I am from andhrapradesh.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/19/10, Subramani L <lsubram...@deccanherald.co.in> wrote:
>>>>> > Folks (particularly from those in Bangalore):
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I am specifically looking for at least one experience from
Bangalore
>>>>> > >
>>>>> in
>>>>> > order to take my report forward. Though I can mention
experiences
of
>>>>> > >
>>>>> VIs
>>>>> > in other places, it is highly important to get it from those
in
>>>>> > Bangalore as I have had a chance of speaking to the Divisional
>>>>> > Manager
>>>>> > of Railways who claims everything to be hunky-dory. Also,
since my
>>>>> > newspaper is circulated in Bangalore I need to see if people
here
>>>>> > have
>>>>> > had any specific bad experiences in the last three to six
months. >
>>>>> Kindly
>>>>> > write abck to me.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Subramani
>>>>> >
>>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>>> > From: Madhu Singhal [mailto:madhu.singha...@gmail.com]
>>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 10:31 PM
>>>>> > To: Subramani L
>>>>> > Subject: Re: regarding Handicapped coach
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Dear Subramani,
>>>>> > Infact,
>>>>> > There is no railway staf officially.
>>>>> > We felt some railway people unoficially was sitting there.
>>>>> > A big mob had entered saying that this is a women coach.
>>>>> > But in that crowd there men also.
>>>>> > the noise was so much and we are two women could not able to
shout.
>>>>> > There is no commection of this coach from other coach.
>>>>> > It was quite broad and both the side two long seats up and
down.
>>>>> > In chinai they did not listen any thing.
>>>>> > In Bangalore i went to station master,
>>>>> > he said better you write to southern railway because i can not
take
>
>>>>> any
>>>>> > action.
>>>>> > There is no pantry car and this will be the last coach no one
come
>>>>> > there.
>>>>> > Toilet was also very broad but we never used because
they
maid
>>>>> > very dirty.
>>>>> > But i receive a letter from railway authority saying we
can
not
>>>>> > do any thing regarding coach because i have also given some >
>>>>> suggestions.
>>>>> > They have promised that they will send to concern
authorty.
>>>>> > After that i did not follow up.
>>>>> > Madhu Singhal.----- Original Message -----
>>>>> > From: Subramani L <mailto:lsubram...@deccanherald.co.in>
>>>>> > To: Madhu Singhal <mailto:madhu.singha...@gmail.com>
>>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 8:41 PM
>>>>> > Subject: RE: regarding Handicapped coach
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Dear Madam:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > A few questions.... Did the authorities you had
complained to
>>>>> > (in Chennai and in Bangalore) recognised that it was the
handicapped
>>>>> > coach? Or did you struggle explaining to them about the
existence
of
>>>>> > >
>>>>> the
>>>>> > coach itself?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Did you tell the people getting into the coach that it
was
not
>>>>> > meant for the public and was a special coach for the
handicapped
>>>>> > persons?
>>>>> > What was the reaction of the public when you explained
to
them
>>>>> > about the purpose of the coach? Did anyone object or use
threatening
>>>>> > >
>>>>> or
>>>>> > abusive language when you did that?
>>>>> > Were any railway staff around for to sort out the
confusion?
>>>>> > What was the condition of the coach? Was it broad enough
for
>>>>> > people to walk freely? Was it connected with the rest of the
coaches?
>>>>> > Were pantry men allowed to sell food?
>>>>> > Who did you complain to in Bangalore?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Rgards,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Subramani
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>>> > From: Madhu Singhal [mailto:madhu.singha...@gmail.com]
>>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 6:57 PM
>>>>> > To: Subramani L
>>>>> > Subject: Re: regarding Handicapped coach
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Dear Subramani,
>>>>> > In 2007 january i was travelling to Chinaifrom
Bangalore.
>>>>> > I booked my ticket along with friend in a c coach.
>>>>> > But it was in waiting list and did not confirmed.
>>>>> > Last moment we thaught okay we will try handicap coach.
>>>>> > We went and sat there.
>>>>> > It was empty only one disabled person was there.
>>>>> > We are very happy thinking can go comfortably.
>>>>> > After contonment one railway staf came and sat.
>>>>> > There was no TTI.
>>>>> > But after 15 minute later coach was ful and they were
pushing
>>>>> > that disabled person.
>>>>> > After some time we can not even breathe.
>>>>> > Noone came to check the ticket.
>>>>> > After reaching Chinai i went and told to the station
master.
>>>>> > He said you can complain after reaching Bangalore.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > After comming here i sent my ticket to the concern
authority
>>>>> > and
>>>>> > they diduct the money and sent me the left over money.
>>>>> > I wrote a letter to the railway department about it.
>>>>> > I got an answer we will take action but nothing
happened.
>>>>> > Madhu Singhal.
>>>>> > The train was Vrindavan express.
>>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> > From: Subramani L <mailto:
lsubram...@deccanherald.co.in
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > To: Madhu Singhal
<mailto:madhu.singha...@gmail.com>
>>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:21 PM
>>>>> > Subject: regarding Handicapped coach
>>>>> >
>>>>> > 2Dear Madam:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I remember you mentioning to me once about the
bad
>>>>> > experience you had in the handicapped coach. Kindly let me
know if
>>>>> > you
>>>>> > can speak about it on the record. If you also know anyone in
>>>>> > Bangalore
>>>>> > who have similar experience kindly lt me know.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Subramani
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Email secured by TPML Electronics
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Email secured by TPML Electronics
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