On 6/21/10, Subramani L <lsubram...@deccanherald.co.in> wrote:
> I gave the example of the American author's awful article to precisely
> refute that notion. I am not an English speaker by birth and I have
> learnt my English in the last 18 years (after I crossed my adolescence,
> and ironically, after becoming blind). Even today, I don't speak English
> at home. Well, had I not told you this, would you have recognised
> yourself by reading my mails? Expressing your ideas clearly goes beyond
> the confines of language.
>
> Subramani
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of BHAWANI
> SHANKAR VERMA
> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 6:00 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Care for spellings in postings - a request
>
> i am of the experience that a person study in his mother language, more
> efficiently use English. because he always care about spellings and
> grammar
> errors.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Subramani L" <lsubram...@deccanherald.co.in>
> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 4:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Care for spellings in postings - a request
>
>
>> The criteria is not if one has studied in English medium or have
> learnt
>> English through and through at school. I have seen this in some blogs
>> and other platforms where the so-called learned folks share
> information.
>> Even there, I found plenty of mistakes and very obvious grammatical
>> errors. I wish I am able to share a few examples, because recently I
>> read an article written by an "AUTHOR" (and, of all the things, she is
>> an American) which was full of errors... so much that it was hard to
>> believe that the person who actually wrote it was an author. Imagine
>> someone who is making a living out of writing putting out messages
> like
>> that?
>>
>> The root cause of poorly written mails in my opinion is lack of care.
>> People do not understand that their writing says something about them
>> and it definitely has an impact on other people and they have a
>> responsibility to write in an intelligible, clear way. I list the
>> following points which people may like to take into account while
>> writing:
>>
>> 1. Avoid SMS language. SMS language has had a negative influence on
>> people, particularly on youngsters. Believe me, how much ever you try
>> and simplify your writing in terms of shortening words and using
>> alphanumeric, writing, as a process, is essentially different from
>> speaking and you do not have the necessary expertise to use one for
> the
>> other. So when writing, whether through a mobile phone or
>> twitter/facebook, treat it as a writing task.
>> 2. Read sites like BBC, which uses simple sentences to convey the
> news.
>> If you read it for a long time, it has an influence on the way you
>> write. If you need help in honing your language skills, you can switch
>> to learning English or other specific sites in BBC, which provide both
>> audio and text information for practice.
>> 3. Never send a message without reading it at least once. I am having
> a
>> terrible time with the keyboard I am using to type this message (and
> so
>> many other things like filing my stories) since it doesn't type A with
> a
>> single touch. I have to hit the key several times to get it typed, but
> I
>> do it since I don't want my messages to appear bad (still you may find
> a
>> word or two with a missing A, but that is after I try my best). Take
>> pride in the fact that you are amongst the privileged few in this
>> country to use things like computers and emails to communicate and so
>> have to show you actually do what it takes to use them.
>> 4. Your writing is a part of your personality. You wouldn't like to
>> attend a party wearing an awful dress, dirty and dishevelled. So why
>> should you write badly and show that you are after all not someone who
>> people like to meet in person? You indeed raise your stakes
>> (expectations) higher if you write well. So put in that effort. If you
>> think you can't, learn.
>>
>> Subramani
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
>> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of prateek
>> aggarwal
>> Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 10:14 PM
>> To: accessindia
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Care for spellings in postings - a request
>>
>> Agreed.
>> I too have observed a few mails with major errors in spellings.
>> While we are using screen readers, we don't usually read the word
>> letter by letter, hence our focus does not go to the spelling of a
>> word.
>>
>> Yes, I fully understand that many of you folks haven't got chance of
>> doing studies in English medium schools, and that's not at all a
>> problem, neither that is any criteria of judging your capabilities. In
>> fact, a lot of you folks are scholars and experts in your respective
>> areas, and I'm proud for that.
>> Sometimes, incorrect spellings or grammar makes your e-mail
>> ineffective to an extent that the intended recipient does not notice
>> it that warmly, hence you remain destitute from the right answer which
>> you would have got if the spellings were all correct.
>> Moreover, the fact described by vasu bro about the appearance  of
>> search results by  search queries  is also one of the major factors.
>> Considering this, I request all the learned fellows without any
>> preference of name that please try checking the spelling of the word
>> you are writing here, it only takes a bit.
>> In fact, a better approach is to write the e-mail in Microsoft word
>> first, and run the spelling and grammar check.
>> Of course, the spelling and grammar check is not the best solution and
>> it won't point all the mistakes,  neither the suggested things by it
>> are all perfect, yet you can get an idea and decide what to correct.
>> An other important thing that I'd like to suggest is to read whatever
>> you have written with the help of your screen reader.
>> Many times, your screen reader will pronounce a word in strange way if
>> its spelling is not correct.
>> This will let you know that there's some problem with the spelling of
>> that respective word, which you can correct then.
>>
>> I have been thinking to write spellings of some of the most commonly
>> used words so the chances of collision can be reduced down.
>>
>> Based on your suggestions, I may start a series somewhere either here
>> or on my website about the spellings of some very commonly used words.
>>
>> Response awaited.
>>
>> regards,
>> Prateek agarwal.
>> Skype:
>> Prateek_agarwal32
>> Wanna see inside me? My blog is the telescope:
>> http://www.myfriendprateek.blogspot.com
>> website:
>> http://www.prateekagarwal.webs.com
>>
>> the best way to accomplish your softwares/websites development needs.
>> You tell, I'll build.
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Original message ----------
>> From: "Srinivasu Chakravarthula" <sriniv...@srinivasu.org>
>> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>> Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 20:12:54 +0530
>> Subject: [AI] Care for spellings in postings - a request
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Off late, there are several emails with lot of spelling and grammar
>> mistakes. I do understand some of you may not got opportunity to study
>> in
>> English medium school and I'm one of them and that would be one of the
>> possible reasons for spelling mistakes in emails and I don't mistake
> any
>> of
>> you.
>>
>> At the same time, please understand that postings of Access India are
>> archived and easily available for people to come across the content
>> through
>> search engines and useful information posted by you would not come up
> in
>> the
>> search engines unless your content matches to the spelling that a
>> researcher
>> is looking for. So it would be a biggest disadvantage for us, if our
>> content
>> do not have correct spellings and grammar.
>>
>> To make your postings better, may I please suggest a couple of things,
>> although I am aware, this would be a little more additional effort:
>>
>> 1.       If you are using Microsoft Outlook / outlook express, be sure
>> to do
>> a spell check by pressing F7 (not sure for outlook express)
>>
>> 2.       If you compose emails using webmail and use Mozilla Firefox,
>> most
>> often it notify you about spelling errors and by using the
> applications
>> key,
>> you can access the suggestions and use the correct spelling.
>>
>> 3.       This suggestion would really be an additional effort, but you
>> can
>> try; if you are using webmail, may be, draft your email using Word
>> Processor
>> and run the spell check, then copy the same and paste to your compose
>> box in
>> web mail.
>>
>> Hope this would be of help to someone. No offense please.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Srinivasu Chakravarthula
>> Hand phone: +91-990-081-0881
>> Website:
>> http://www.srinivasu.org
>> Yahoo! IM: vasugroupmails Follow me on:
>> http://www.twitter.com/VasuTweets
>>
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ifriends, i do not believe that somebody's schooling in english medium
or regional medium matters concerning his/her spelling errors. with
regarding a visually impared person, as he/she reads by
ear(listening), and not by eyes, ; the direct registering of the word
will not happen. so it is very common to get confused in between 'ie',
'ei', 'ee', 's' and 'c' etc. so only a constant, deliberate attempt to
clear the doubt and get the correct spelling make situation better.
regards reem.

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