1. I said should not have appeared in the past, primarily to satisfy
paranoids.
However, it is better dropped.
Or at least, a reasonable time limit, say past three years, may be
prescribed.
However, it also will lay the onus of proving the non-appearance on the
candidate or scribe which is difficult.
2. Upper age limit I mentioned to mean that scribe should not be
ineligible merely due to upper age limit for taking the exam.
So, this condition does not apply to exams where there is no age limit.
Hence, anybody, say who cannot appear for M.A. part 2 in English, because
she does not have M.A. part 1 pass certificate in English, will be able
to be a scribe. So will be anybody who has done PG in say, physics, or
PH.D. in anything but English, for that matter.
Upper age limit will come into play when, say, I take a scribe for SBI
exam where upper age limit is 28 years, and minimum qualification for
applying is graduation. So, a person who is 35, but who is a graduate
cannot be a scribe, for she could herself have taken the exam, but for
her being overage. Here, anybody who does not have a graduation degree
will be a scribe....
I know this condition will deviate a little from strictly having one year
junior scribe, but I propose it to be a short eligibility criteria for all
exams.
-----Original Message-----
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kanchan
Pamnani
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 9:13 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Examinations
1. How is it possible to prove that someone did not give the exam in the
past? If the writer is younger than the candidate it may be possible but
if
my mom wrote an exam eg. a exam for recruiting to SBI for you then how
will
you prove that she didnt sit for the same exam 30 years ago?
2
.
Also there are many exams like M. A. which does not have an upper age
limit for the candidate so any person who is about 22 years or more even
100
will be eligible to give the exam. Can such a person be a writer?
I dont know lets analyse these situations more in depth. I had started
drafting but I put it aside because I knew there were many complications.
I
have read Apoorva, Kartik,Rakesh and Vasu's views. Waiting for others.
This
affects each of us and at various times in our lives.
I also understand that there is a feeling that there should be tactile
questions and that all visual questions should have alternatives. This is
a
great leap forward. However the young visually challenged have to be
taught
this from school. Are our organisations either special schools or
supplementary facilities ready for this? I can tell you that one of the
turning points in the latest physiotherapy case was when I handed over
tactile diagrams of the foot to the judges. how many organisations have
these machines, how many will do it on time, how many readily teach their
kids to read and understand these?Sorry for going off on a tangent. Lets
get
back to the real issue of the examinations.
Kanchan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Asudani, Rajesh" <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in>
To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Examinations
May I add a proviso to the eligibility condition mentioned in my earlier
mail to the effect that the scribe should not have appeared in the
same
exam at any past time, or could have appeared but for upper age limit.
Simplified, the eligibility condition for the scribe should be:
Anybody who has not appeared for and is not eligible to appear for
exactly
the same exam as she is acting as scribe at the time,, and such
ineligibility should not be merely due to upper age limit for the exam.
-----Original Message-----
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Pamnani
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 4:29 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Examinations
Most of you know that I have been working on the guidelines for
examinations especially the issue of scribes for some time.
All of us have realised the need for standard guidelines in the country.
After the maharashtra guidelines were issued many of you approached me
and
have been approaching me regularly for All India guidelines. Therefore
it
is time to act.
I have based my work on the:
1. Guidelines in Maharashtra
2. Minutes of meeting held in2008
3. Judgement in Asif's case
4. University of Bombay's circular on psychology
I need to know from each of you as to what you want in the new Rules.
What
you want to safe guard against,What you want the Examination authority to
take care of and what will be the visually challenged's responsibility.
Anything that I should take into account especially for any particular
exam. Please ask for the moon we just might get it of course be
practical.
Think of all the variations and combinations and complications that
someone somewhere may face. Thats why I am still on this group.
I cannot take care of the idiot who denies the rules but I can ensure
good
rules on paper at least. So lets go for it. Please dont send me a list of
what happened in the past I cant rectify it but I can see that it does
not
happen again. So requesting for some input.
The new rules will apply to :
1. All recruiting exams
2. All college and school exams
3. All entrance exams
4. any other exam that I have forgotten
Looking forward to your inputs
Thanks
Kanchan
Kanchan Pamnani
Advocate & Solicitor
9, Suleman Chambers,
Battery Street, Colaba,
Mumbai - 400 039.
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