Dear Moderator

I believe you have gone through the trailing mail of David in entirety.
So, the beginning of  your mail, with the words,  "Agreed" sounded preposterous 
to me...

Anyway, I don't believe you agree with entire contents of his mail.

At David:

Please note I am not a person to take such threatening mails lightly.
So, do seek the protection of your retina India group in your future so as to 
be safe as I am not going to deal with that group now.

And yes, please provide the flight tickets you have mentioned so that I may 
confront the misdemeanors of RI in person publicly.

Which e mail I use is my sole prerogative, and you have no authority to direct 
me.

As per my character, yes, I am a scoundrel of the first sort, any problems?


-----Original Message-----
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of David Bodapati
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 2:37 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] AccessIndia Digest, Vol 57, Issue 200

I would request the accessindia manager/administrators to remove this kind
of blasphamey and ugly behaviour by members posts against any NGO, any
organisation that is working for the PWD/VI etc. which is against the rules
of this group

I am shocked that respected people whom I have admired for years are
behaving like this. I have lost all respect and as one of the thousands of
volunteers who are working for over two years now to provide peer support
and admirably assisting visually challenged, low vision to cope up with life
and living.I am ashamed that people are not able to be tolerant.

There seems to be a cozy elite group on the virtual world with a lot of ego.
Kindly do not hurt the feelings of hundreds of blind/VI who are not so lucky
to reach the level you have reached.

If this kind of mud slinging takes place, you are out of touch with the
pulse of the community.  RETINA INDIA is a MOVEMENT for the betterment oF
VISUALLY CHALLENGED, LOW VISION AND THEIR FAMILIES AND PEER GROUPS

Kindly reexamine yourself and stop these kinds of derogatory remarks. If you
want to attend the conference with your escort please let me know I will
provide you a flight ticket and a flight for YOUR escort.

But just because some did not get you comforts don't degrade an organisation
which is the pulse of India now. RI are struggling to put things together
and this is  shocking that respected people fail to understand and work for
the common cause.

For your kind info it is not the doctors, it is the patients who are
backbone of RETINA INDIA which has board members who are patients unltike
 many other such organisattions. thanks to our GREAT DOCTOR.

People who look for persoNal benefits and vested interests are ruling the
roost and when they dont get benefit the indulge in such bad bahaviour which
even a kg student can make out.

In the first place, I suggest you stop using RBI email and behave yourself.
Or else you will come to reap the fruits of your bad character.

KINDLY DO NOT belittle thousands of other visually challenged persons and
volunteers.
I sincerely request accessindia to delete these messages immediately to
bring sanity to the respected Egroup.

My name is Daviid,
I am based in Bangalore.
My phone number is 098455 69496.

tthanks and regards,
David Bodapati
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 1g 1:48 AM,
<accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in>wrote: to the

> Send AccessIndia mailing list submissions to
>        accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>
> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>
> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
>
> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>        accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in
>
> You can reach the person managing the list at
>        accessindia-ow...@accessindia.org.in
>
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of AccessIndia digest..."
>
>
> Please do not reply to this digest mail. You should put your comments into
> a new mail with appropriate subject line.
> _______________________________________________
> AccessIndia mailing list
> AccessIndia@accessindia.org.in
>
> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
>
>
> Today's Topics:
>
>   1. Re: Tips to manage without escort? (Shreedhar TS.)
>   2. hi (Anjina Bhat)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 11:46:51 +0530
> From: "Shreedhar TS." <tss....@gmail.com>
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?
> Message-ID:
>        <CAGhr3-HC4MYjU5S=-rkihqdongo95-wvcipuordo-sfofwb...@mail.gmail.com
> >
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Dear Mr. Rajesh, I agree with you completely that fumbling
> around will not be taken as trying at one's best. I have seen many
> people laughing at a fumbling blind person. Many people here asked me
> that why don't you people get some sighted people with you.
>
> Moreover, when you are ready to ask some unknown person's help in
> between, why do you  think having escort is not preferable? There is a
> limit to everything, so as your independence. Your independence should
> not put an end to your life no? Therefore as Mr. Rajesh said, it is
> better to have an escort at least in a new surroundings when you can
> afford one; Untill you have a good device which caters the need of
> sight to a large extent.
>
> I don't think that any senses are now able to substitute the sight
> unless you try something different like echolocation.
>
> I don't know the efficiency of echolocation in extremely noisy places.
> If any one is expert in echolocation, please do contact me off the
> list.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> On 9/23/11, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote:
> > Yes, Mahendra,  sighted person may also err and may imperil life.
> > However, there is no gainsaying the fact that data obtained from sight is
> > dynamic and much more abundant than by other senses, and while moving, it
> > matters a lot.
> > Of course, mobility skills must be developed, I never denied it, but
> there
> > are certain limits to the independent mobility of totally, and I say,
> > totally blind.
> > Besides, if the escort is available, and affordable, there being no
> privacy
> > concerns, who would  unnecessarily like to venture unescorted and hazard
> > one's life limb safety, given the fact one has filial responsibilities to
> > tackle.
> >
> > As per social dignity, it is a matter of interpretation, and this world
> > which operates at the most surfacical level, it is vain to expect that
> > fumbling around will be taken as trying at one's best.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> > [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Anirban
> > Mukherjee
> > Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 7:09 PM
> > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> > Subject: Re: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?
> >
> > actually, escort becomes necessity at some times as far as i'm
> > concerned. but, i agree, that we must look for self-reliance. but what
> > i would like to draw every body's attention is that the point that Mr
> > Rajesh sir made regarding escort in the other thread is absolutely
> > valid. it is insulting to say the least. there should be discretion of
> > making my own choices for me.
> >
> > On 9/22/11, mahendra <gal...@chello.at> wrote:
> >> Dear Rajesh
> >>
> >> i only agree with your thurd point,
> >>
> >> to think that escort is there, and we don't need mobility is very much
> >> wrong.
> >> sighted people can also put your life in to denjare, we must take
> >> responsibility
> >> for our life, and not totaly put responsibility  on the shoulders of
> >> others.
> >>
> >> secondly  because of dependence on sighted, social dignity is
> compromised,
> >> and not because you have to fumble around, it shows you are trying your
> >> best.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> At 09:21 AM 9/22/2011, you wrote:
> >>>Dear Srinivasu
> >>>Rightly said that low vision people don't face as much problems in
> >>>mobility as totally blind do.
> >>>It is not impossible to manage without escort, I have done it
> >>>myself, travelling on Nagpur Roads in student days, and even
> >>>travelling all alone in trains in UP, bringing my elder sister who
> >>>is herself blind with her kids from Lucknow to Nagpur, all by myself.
> >>>My point is, without escort,
> >>>1. The mobility is fraught with inherent risks, sometimes of life.
> >>>2. More often than not, social dignity is compromised, as you have
> >>>to fumble around.
> >>>3. Your freedom, particularly in new surroundings, is greatly curtailed.
> >>>
> >>>As a result, one should opt for an escort, if one is able to afford,
> >>>and escort is available, except in situations where privacy is of
> >>>utmost importance.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> >>>[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
> >>>Srinivasu Chakravarthula
> >>>Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 1:25 PM
> >>>To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> >>>Subject: [AI] Tips to manage without escort?
> >>>
> >>>Hi All,
> >>>Honestly, I got this curiosity with recent thread raised by Rajesh.
> >>>
> >>>I know, there area lot of members in the group, who widely travel and I
> >>> see
> >>>them traveling all alone. I even see people like Jean, who never ask for
> >>>help at the venues. I am curious how would people with total blindness
> can
> >>>manage to be alone at conferences etc.Also, any of you come across tips
> to
> >>>network with the people in the events.I don't consider myself to answer
> >>> any
> >>>of the above, although I travel a lot, but I could fairly see. So I
> don't
> >>>think, this would be of any problem to people with low vision.
> >>>
> >>>Any tips would also help me to share with our students at NAB.
> >>>
> >>>Thanks a lot,
> >>>-Srinivasu
> >>>
> >>>--
> >>>Best regards,
> >>>
> >>>Srinivasu Chakravarthula
> >>>Mobile: +91 990 081 0881
> >>>Website: http://www.srinivasu.org | http://www.learnaccessibility.org
> >>>Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/VasuTweets
> >>>Register for AccessIndia convention 2011(November 12-13)  at:
> >>>http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm
> >>>
> >>>Search for old postings at:
> >>>http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/
> >>>
> >>>To unsubscribe send a message to
> >>>accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in
> >>>with the subject unsubscribe.
> >>>
> >>>To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other
> >>>changes, please visit the list home page at
> >>>
> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are
> >>>confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or
> >>>entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended
> >>>recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or
> >>>copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or
> >>>attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you have received this
> >>>email by error,  please notify us by return e-mail or telephone and
> >>>immediately and permanently delete the message and any attachments.
> >>>The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the
> >>>presence of viruses. The Reserve Bank of India  accepts no liability
> >>>for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email.
> >>>
> >>>Register for AccessIndia convention 2011(November 12-13)  at:
> >>>http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm
> >>>
> >>>Search for old postings at:
> >>>http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/
> >>>
> >>>To unsubscribe send a message to
> >>>accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in
> >>>with the subject unsubscribe.
> >>>
> >>>To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other
> >>>changes, please visit the list home page at
> >>>
> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
> >>
> >> with warm regards
> >>         Mahendra Galani
> >> window's live ID mahendragal...@hotmail.com       skype ID chintu3886
> >> phone +4314943149 mobile +4369910366055,
> >> address Herbst strasse 101.16.1 Vienna Austria Europe
> >>
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >> Register for AccessIndia convention 2011(November 12-13)  at:
> >> http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm
> >>
> >> Search for old postings at:
> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/
> >>
> >> To unsubscribe send a message to
> >> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in
> >> with the subject unsubscribe.
> >>
> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes,
> >> please
> >> visit the list home page at
> >>
> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Register for AccessIndia convention 2011(November 12-13)  at:
> > http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm
> >
> > Search for old postings at:
> > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/
> >
> > To unsubscribe send a message to
> > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in
> > with the subject unsubscribe.
> >
> > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes,
> please
> > visit the list home page at
> >
> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
> >
> >
> > Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
> > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
> > addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use,
> > review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in
> > this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If
> you
> > have received this email by error,  please notify us by return e-mail or
> > telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any
> > attachments. The recipient should check this email and any attachments
> for
> > the presence of viruses. The Reserve Bank of India  accepts no liability
> for
> > any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email.
> >
> > Register for AccessIndia convention 2011(November 12-13)  at:
> > http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm
> >
> > Search for old postings at:
> > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/
> >
> > To unsubscribe send a message to
> > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in
> > with the subject unsubscribe.
> >
> > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes,
> please
> > visit the list home page at
> >
> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Thanks and regards.
> ??????? ?? ???, ????
> Shreedhar T S, Abasi
>
> To accomplish great things, we must dream as well as act
>
>  Mobile:  9980989171
>
> Yahoo chat ID:  tss_abs
>
> Skype: shree475
>
> Blog: http://shreeword.blogspot.com/
>
> ??? ?????????????????? ???? ?????????? ????
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 11:47:57 +0530
> From: Anjina Bhat <anjina1...@gmail.com>
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: [AI] hi
> Message-ID:
>        <CAGiQ3EgQgBB2PN_H35JiWwRmVE5M+po=sbzbjj1_oohrqhq...@mail.gmail.com
> >
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Mr. Rajesh
>
> I myself am a mother of 7 year old son who is visually handi cap and
> from the very first day from admitting to school till date i have
> faced lot of inconveniences . so i can very well understand your
> inconvenience level but there is one thing which always i make my son
> and myself understand that
> IT is important for us to stay unaffected by the praise and criticism
> of the world, to stay steadfast when buffeted by the raging waves of
> jealousy around us.Look down on these things from a higher plane, and
> use them to make yourself a stronger person.
>
> As far as cure is concerned  Something is better than nothing , if
> couple of people are working on  some good thing , no matter during
> this process if our sentiments or some inconveniences are being caused
> but if we see that in future some how it may help Visually people i
> think we should appreciate and move forward ---
> ALL of  us should have aim to put all our efforts and fight Blindness
> , no matter how we should advance along the path leading towards
> success . It is vital never to stray from this path as a result of
> being swayed by immediate relative advantages or disadvantages, or by
> petty emotionalism. If we should veer from all these  actions and
> efforts  being taken towards blindness , we ourself will lose out.
> last but not least BENEFIT does not mean that we always enjoy
> favourable circumstances.
>
> It is not philosphy but a true fact .....
> Thanks and regards
> Anjina
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Asudani, Rajesh
> <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote:
> > That's exactly I am saying, Angina,
> > They want to cure blindness, and only cure it.
> > They don't bother how to live with it.
> > Do you think some solution will be panacea for all?
> > Take corneal blindness.
> > One third blind people in India have it.
> > Cornea can be easily harvested and transplanted to cure such blindness.
> > Still, has it vanished totally?
> > Not a bit.
> > Even though it is totally in our hands.
> > Lot more corneas than required are burnt, buried etc.
> > So, any technological solution ?is going to benefit a handful of persons.
> > The key is in living with it.
> > Anybody boasting of working for the blind must be sensitized about
> legitimate needs of the blind.
> > My emotions or sentiments are not hurt.
> > I have been squarely insulted in the name of blindness, as even after
> inviting me and my brother as faculty, they flatly refused us to bring
> escorts, citing lack of funds.
> > They put me to a lot of inconvenience.
> > Try to understand.
> > It is not the matter of emotions, but it is the matter of logic.
> > Let those who can be cured, cured.
> > We have to live with it, and It is my choice if I take escort or not.
> > All big big philosophies about independence I know.
> > But they all dissolve if you are knocked down by a speeding car and you
> even cannot see where you are lying.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:
> accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Anjina Bhat
> > Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 10:39 AM
> > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> > Subject: [AI] hi
> >
> > hi all
> >
> > I have been in constant touch with Dr rajat sharma from Retina -india
> > , I think he is doing his best to work for blindness. he is very
> > optimistic person and really want to cure blindness . i can understand
> > thaht someway if anybodys sentiments ?must have get hurted but we
> > should always see the positive aspect of person and move on --- ?i am
> > pasting one artcle here which was posted on times of india yesterday
> >
> _________________________________________________________________________________________________
> > NEW DELHI: For millions of Indians who suffer from loss of vision due
> > to retina damage and age-related macular degeneration , there is now
> > hope. A bionic eye which would help them see is going to be developed
> > indigenously .
> >
> > The visual device would use eyeglasses fitted with digital cameras and
> > a retinal implant and has been successfully tried on patients abroad.
> > The co-inventor of the global project, Dr Rajat N Agrawal , says he
> > wants to make the implant affordable here and will work to bring down
> > the cost of the implant to Rs 5 lakh from its present cost of Rs 45
> > lakh (approx).
> >
> > "We are collaborating with experts from the All India Institute of
> > Medical Sciences and several IITs to indigenously develop a cheaper
> > variant of the eye implant so that people here can afford it. We are
> > also trying to get the central government to fund the research
> > project," said Agrawal, an assistant professor of clinical
> > ophthalmology at the University of Southern California.
> >
> > Agrawal was working as a retina specialist at Sankara Netralaya in
> > Chennai till 2001. After this he joined a group of scientists in US
> > who were working to develop this bionic eye. He holds the patent for
> > the device along with his colleagues .
> >
> > The bionic eye developed by Agrawal and his team consists of a chip
> > fitted behind the retina. The system works by converting video images
> > captured from a miniature camera in the patient's glasses into a
> > series of electrical pulses transmitted wirelessly to the chip, itself
> > an array of electrodes. These pulses then stimulate the retina's
> > remaining cells, resulting in a corresponding perception of patterns
> > of light in the brain.
> >
> > "We have used this implant successfully on 37 patients of advanced
> > retinitis pigmentosa - a disease caused by damage to the retina. The
> > patients have shown improvement in daily activities and some can even
> > read large letters ," he said.
> >
> > Dr R V Azad, chief of retina services and professor ophthalmology,
> > AIIMS, confirmed that he has been contacted to participate in the new
> > project.
> >
> > "The invention of this medical implant is a beginning and further
> > modification is required to improve the visual capabilities, precision
> > and to reduce the cost. It will take time," said Azad.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Anjina
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 5:13 AM, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan
> > <vadhimoo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> My sister and I were taken to hospetels all over Tamilnadu by my
> >> parents and it was an ophthalmologists ?who finally advised them to
> >> give-up the treatment and look for our future educational options.
> >> Such advises are very crucial indeed. So while it is okay to look for
> >> cure, it should not be the soul purpose of an organization if it
> >> claims to be dealing with visually challenged people inn general. So
> >> for those of you going to the convention, you should make this point
> >> very clear.
> >>
> >> Vetri.
> >>
> >> On 22/09/2011, Deepak Kumar Singla <deepakkumarsin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Very surprising that no one from Retina India has come out with any
> response
> >>> yet!!!
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Asudani, Rajesh" <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in>
> >>> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> >>> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 10:54 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: [AI] Insult to blindness
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Who said retina India is working for problems of VI?
> >>>> They believe in curing and curing it only.
> >>>> It is a medical organization espousing medical purpose.
> >>>> Consequently, they, like doctors in general, cannot be expected to
> have an
> >>>>
> >>>> awareness about life with blindness.
> >>>> In fact, instead of what RI is doing at the convention, i.e. making
> blind
> >>>> listen to Ophthalmologists, it should be doing the converse, I.E.
> Making
> >>>> ophthalmologists listen to blind about life with blindness.
> >>>> This is because more often than not, ophthalmologist is the first
> point of
> >>>>
> >>>> contact for a person coming to know of her his blindness, and
> >>>> ophthalmologist creates first impressions of future life of a person
> with
> >>>> her or his blindness.
> >>>> So, it is only proper that they are aware of life's ?possibilities
> with
> >>>> blindness.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> >>>> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of mukesh
> jain
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 9:04 PM
> >>>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Insult to blindness
> >>>>
> >>>> Hello,
> >>>> It is with deep sorrow in informing all of you that few days ago when
> >>>> I approach RPI for getting registered myself for the convention with
> >>>> escort over the telephone I first had to wait long for communication
> >>>> and then don't know phone line was getting disconnected several times.
> >>>> After long efforts, I could get through.
> >>>>
> >>>> While requesting for the escort permission for the convention, I had
> >>>> been informed that common escort would be shared amongst small group
> >>>> of VI persons during the convention hence, you need not bring your
> >>>> individual escort.
> >>>>
> >>>> I do understand the huge response they may have received for the
> >>>> convention since it is organised at national level but my point of
> >>>> concern is they should have analyse the difficulties in advance prior
> >>>> to organising this event because in outdoor programs VI person feel
> >>>> more convenient with individual escort at several occasions. Further
> >>>> not only this but the way of replying over ?the phone was also very
> >>>> strange wich can not be discussed on the public forum.
> >>>>
> >>>> I have nothing against any organisation but just to let you know about
> >>>> my pain. Since communication was made over the phone I afraid giving
> >>>> any evidence but with the feeling that this pain can be served as eye
> >>>> opener for any organisation working ?for the blind to be aware about
> >>>> the prospective scenarios to handle the problems of vi persons before
> >>>> arranging any event, I shared this with you.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 9/21/11, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote:
> >>>>> HAHAHA!!!!
> >>>>> Blindness has to be only cured, or overcome!!!! Not to be lived with,
> >>>>> Isn't
> >>>>> it?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> >>>>> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
> Himanshu
> >>>>> Sahu
> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 12:08 PM
> >>>>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Insult to blindness
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Very strange...
> >>>>> How can being faculty supplement the need of escort?
> >>>>> Or, does it mean that the blindness of participants is only worth
> >>>>> allowing for carrying escorts and faculty members have some kind of
> >>>>> superpower to overcome their blindness?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 9/20/11, BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA <bsvermad...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> sir, better you should lodge a written complaint against them. soft
> copy
> >>>>>> does not fulfil the purpose.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>> From: "Asudani, Rajesh" <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in>
> >>>>>> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 5:05 PM
> >>>>>> Subject: [AI] Insult to blindness
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Friends
> >>>>>>> It is with deep remorse that I am informing you of shameful
> behaviour
> >>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>> an organization called Retina India.
> >>>>>>> RI is holding a national convention in Delhi on September 24 and
> 25.
> >>>>>>> They invited me and my brother Dr. Prof. Vinod Asudani, for some
> >>>>>>> sessions
> >>>>>>> in the said convention.
> >>>>>>> However, all their invitations were, oral to begin with, and when I
> >>>>>>> wrote
> >>>>>>> to them for written invites they forwarded without essential
> details
> >>>>>>> like
> >>>>>>> registration Number.
> >>>>>>> Again, I had to plead for registration number, which they
> grudgingly
> >>>>>>> provided.
> >>>>>>> Anyway, the confusion and inco-ordination reached to such a level,
> that
> >>>>>>> they first invited me and Dr. Vinod, then rescinded the latter's
> >>>>>>> invite,
> >>>>>>> then again reconfirmed it and now have finally withdrawn invites of
> us
> >>>>>>> both resulting not only in hardship and anguish but waste of human
> and
> >>>>>>> financial resources.
> >>>>>>> The ground given for such abrupt U Turn is that we said we would be
> >>>>>>> accompanied by escorts.
> >>>>>>> Now, it goes without saying that a totally blind person requires an
> >>>>>>> escort
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> for effective mobility, otherwise, there is a clear risk to his/her
> >>>>>>> life.
> >>>>>>> besides, lack of escort surely compromises efficiency in outdoor
> and
> >>>>>>> new
> >>>>>>> surroundings to widely varying degree for the totally blind.
> Anybody
> >>>>>>> claiming full and effective mobility and dignity in moving about
> new
> >>>>>>> surroundings and in a vast campus without an escort is indulging in
> >>>>>>> self
> >>>>>>> delusion.
> >>>>>>> We have witnessed this often enough to hazard any such venture.
> >>>>>>> The tone and manner of their communication is hurtful, to say the
> >>>>>>> least.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> They claim that none of the people are accompanied by escorts in
> the
> >>>>>>> convention.
> >>>>>>> It baffles me how a NGO working for blind does know so little of
> the
> >>>>>>> basic
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> needs of the blind community.
> >>>>>>> I am compelled to conclude that actually the NGO is run with
> clearly
> >>>>>>> defined medical goals for researching the cure for some retinal
> >>>>>>> conditions, and consequently is totally unaware of actual needs of
> the
> >>>>>>> blind or totally blind.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I am not writing this out of personal motives, even though their
> >>>>>>> behaviour
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> has caused much needless anguish to me and my brother.
> >>>>>>> Besides a personal insult, such a conduct is an insult to blindness
> in
> >>>>>>> general, and anybody compliant in such conduct is contributing to
> such
> >>>>>>> an
> >>>>>>> insult.
> >>>>>>> The propaganda of the organization surely creates false hopes in
> the
> >>>>>>> hearts of hapless blind which is cruel to say the least.
> >>>>>>> Psychologically, it also hinders the full acceptance of the
> condition
> >>>>>>> which is a sine qua non for effective living with blindness.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> In fine, RI is nothing more than a clique of medical doctors doing
> >>>>>>> research, to whom a handful of blind folk have rendered support in
> the
> >>>>>>> false hope that the treatment is just round the corner and workable
> for
> >>>>>>> most blind people.
> >>>>>>> Let me remind one and all that living with blindness is the key to
> a
> >>>>>>> good
> >>>>>>> life as a blind, and these tantalizing illusions of a complete cure
> for
> >>>>>>> most be guarded against.
> >>>>>>> My above observations are duly supported by oral and e mail records
> of
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> way in which our legitimate requirements were condescendingly
> granted
> >>>>>>> by
> >>>>>>> organizers, and When I spoke up, the invitations were summarily
> >>>>>>> withdrawn.
> >>>>>>> I have no dearth of conventions to attend, but I appeal every blind
> >>>>>>> person
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> having self respect to give matter a thought and decide for her or
> >>>>>>> himself
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> the course of action in lending unqualified support to an NGO which
> is
> >>>>>>> cut
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> off from the totally blind and their life.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I know the rules of this group do not permit mails against any
> group in
> >>>>>>> particular, but this definitely is an out of ordinary situation in
> the
> >>>>>>> blind field, and I thought to let everybody know the other side of
> all
> >>>>>>> pomp and glory projected by such NGOs. I would be happy if the
> traffic
> >>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>> this topic is not carried out further in this forum.
> >>>>>>> The moderator may, ?in his discretion, take action ?against me,
> should
> >>>>>>> he
> >>>>>>> so please.
> >>>>>>> I would be compelled to reply, if the NGO publishes any response in
> >>>>>>> this
> >>>>>>> group itself.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> With thanks and regards
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?(Rajesh Asudani)
> >>>>>>> Assistant General Manager
> >>>>>>> Reserve Bank of India
> >>>>>>> Nagpur
> >>>>>>> Cell: 9420397185
> >>>>>>> o: +91 712 2806846
> >>>>>>> R: 2591349
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> It's not activity that wears out the body and spirit- it's
> inactivity.
> >>>>>>> Keep going!"
> >>>>>>> GUS ECKSTEIN
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ________________________________
> >>>>>>> Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are
> confidential
> >>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom
> they
> >>>>>>> are
> >>>>>>> addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any
> dissemination,
> >>>>>>> use,
> >>>>>>> review, distribution, printing or copying of the information
> contained
> >>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>> this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly
> prohibited.
> >>>>>>> If
> >>>>>>> you have received this email by error, please notify us by return
> >>>>>>> e-mail
> >>>>>>> or telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and
> any
> >>>>>>> attachments. The recipient should check this email and any
> attachments
> >>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> the presence of viruses. The Reserve Bank of India accepts no
> liability
> >>>>>>> for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email.
> >>>>>>> Register for AccessIndia convention 2011(November 12-13) ?at:
> >>>>>>> http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Search for old postings at:
> >>>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> To unsubscribe send a message to
> >>>>>>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in
> >>>>>>> with the subject unsubscribe.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other
> changes,
> >>>>>>> please visit the list home page at
> >>>>>>>
> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Register for AccessIndia convention 2011(November 12-13) ?at:
> >>>>>> http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Search for old postings at:
> >>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> To unsubscribe send a message to
> >>>>>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in
> >>>>>> with the subject unsubscribe.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other
> changes,
> >>>>>> please
> >>>>>> visit the list home page at
> >>>>>>
> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Thanks and regards
> >>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Himanshu Sahu
> >>>>> Reach: 09051055000
> >>>>> Skype: himanshu.cute4u
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Register for AccessIndia convention 2011(November 12-13) ?at:
> >>>>> http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Search for old postings at:
> >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> To unsubscribe send a message to
> >>>>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in
> >>>>> with the subject unsubscribe.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes,
> >>>>> please
> >>>>> visit the list home page at
> >>>>>
> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential
> and
> >>>>> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they
> are
> >>>>> addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination,
> use,
> >>>>> review, distribution, printing or copying of the information
> contained in
> >>>>> this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited.
> If
> >>>>> you
> >>>>> have received this email by error, ?please notify us by return e-mail
> or
> >>>>> telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any
> >>>>> attachments. The recipient should check this email and any
> attachments
> >>>>> for
> >>>>> the presence of viruses. The Reserve Bank of India ?accepts no
> liability
> >>>>> for
> >>>>> any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Register for AccessIndia convention 2011(November 12-13) ?at:
> >>>>> http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Search for old postings at:
> >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> To unsubscribe send a message to
> >>>>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in
> >>>>> with the subject unsubscribe.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes,
> >>>>> please
> >>>>> visit the list home page at
> >>>>>
> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Mukesh jain
> >>>> Email:
> >>>> mukesh.jai...@gmail.com
> >>>> Skype: mukeshja
> >>>> Mob: 09977165123
> >>>>
> >>>> "Face your deficiencies and acknowledge them; but do not let them
> >>>> master you. Let them teach you patience, sweetness, insight. "
> >>>>
> >>>> Helen Keller
> >>>>
> >>>> Register for AccessIndia convention 2011(November 12-13) ?at:
> >>>> http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm
> >>>>
> >>>> Search for old postings at:
> >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/
> >>>>
> >>>> To unsubscribe send a message to
> >>>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in
> >>>> with the subject unsubscribe.
> >>>>
> >>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes,
> >>>> please visit the list home page at
> >>>>
> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential
> and
> >>>> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they
> are
> >>>> addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination,
> use,
> >>>> review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained
> in
> >>>> this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited.
> If
> >>>> you have received this email by error, ?please notify us by return
> e-mail
> >>>> or telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and
> any
> >>>> attachments. The recipient should check this email and any attachments
> for
> >>>>
> >>>> the presence of viruses. The Reserve Bank of India ?accepts no
> liability
> >>>> for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email.
> >>>>
> >>>> Register for AccessIndia convention 2011(November 12-13) ?at:
> >>>> http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm
> >>>>
> >>>> Search for old postings at:
> >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/
> >>>>
> >>>> To unsubscribe send a message to
> >>>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in
> >>>> with the subject unsubscribe.
> >>>>
> >>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes,
> >>>> please visit the list home page at
> >>>>
> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Register for AccessIndia convention 2011(November 12-13) ?at:
> >>> http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm
> >>>
> >>> Search for old postings at:
> >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/
> >>>
> >>> To unsubscribe send a message to
> >>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in
> >>> with the subject unsubscribe.
> >>>
> >>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes,
> please
> >>> visit the list home page at
> >>>
> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> Register for AccessIndia convention 2011(November 12-13) ?at:
> >> http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm
> >>
> >> Search for old postings at:
> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/
> >>
> >> To unsubscribe send a message to
> >> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in
> >> with the subject unsubscribe.
> >>
> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes,
> please visit the list home page at
> >>
> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Anjina
> >
> > Register for AccessIndia convention 2011(November 12-13) ?at:
> > http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm
> >
> > Search for old postings at:
> > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/
> >
> > To unsubscribe send a message to
> > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in
> > with the subject unsubscribe.
> >
> > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes,
> please visit the list home page at
> >
> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
> >
> >
> > Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
> addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use,
> review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in
> this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you
> have received this email by error, ?please notify us by return e-mail or
> telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any
> attachments. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for
> the presence of viruses. The Reserve Bank of India ?accepts no liability for
> any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email.
> >
> > Register for AccessIndia convention 2011(November 12-13) ?at:
> > http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm
> >
> > Search for old postings at:
> > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/
> >
> > To unsubscribe send a message to
> > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in
> > with the subject unsubscribe.
> >
> > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes,
> please visit the list home page at
> >
> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Anjina
>
>
>
> End of AccessIndia Digest, Vol 57, Issue 200
> ********************************************
>



--
David Bodapati
Bangalore
(+91) 984 556 9496

*
".... there is no religion without love, and people may talk as much as
 they like about their religion, but if it does not teach them to be good
 and kind to man and beast, it is all a sham...."
-Black Beauty, Chapter 13, last paragraph.
*
Register for AccessIndia convention 2011(November 12-13)  at:
http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm

Search for old postings at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/

To unsubscribe send a message to
accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in
with the subject unsubscribe.

To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please 
visit the list home page at
http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in


Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and 
intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are 
addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, 
review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in this 
e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you have 
received this email by error,  please notify us by return e-mail or telephone 
and immediately and permanently delete the message and any attachments. The 
recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of 
viruses. The Reserve Bank of India  accepts no liability for any damage caused 
by any virus transmitted by this email.

Register for AccessIndia convention 2011(November 12-13)  at:
http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm

Search for old postings at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/

To unsubscribe send a message to
accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in
with the subject unsubscribe.

To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please 
visit the list home page at
http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in

Reply via email to