Respected Rajesh Sir The Great And Hi all, @Sir: PC curser is like insertion point only. Whereas jaws curser is mouse pointer, and invisible curser (works the same way without disturbing the mouse pointer and is used for grabbing information).
@Siddhi: Let me answer a few with an understanding of like a normal person, so don't take it as a technically sound opinion. may be informal disclaimer? :) :) 2. Difference Between Double Click And Single Click: Generally, in windows for selecting things like files or folders, clicking on quick icons (taskbar) etc., we use single click. And when it comes to activating some programme or clicking on some icon or something of that sort, we use double click. (it works like our enter key). As a thumb rule, in terms of internet don't use double click ever. Because it may lead to opening of two items. (say if it is a email window, then an email link twice clicked will result in two separate windows or two goods in case of shopping portal, may be favorite example for many! :) 3. Cursers: Jaws curser works exactly like your mouse pointer. Double clicking, left and right clicking, drag and drop, everything can be used with jaws curser. Wherever the information cannot be obtained using the pc curser because it is not reachable to that point, in that case we use jaws curser. So that itself says that in case if you have to show something to sighted person, then use jaws curser. Often while making presentations, it becomes hard to determine whether what we are talking is on screen or we have to scrole for it. So there jaws curser can be an option for determining the same. One more is there alt + delete. But never tried to know about it in detail. Invisible Curser: As the name suggests, it is an invisible curser, which cannot be seen on screen. The difference between jaws curser and invisible curser apart from the visibility is that by using invisible curser, one cannot click an object etc. This curser is used to grab the information in a same way like jaws curser, but without disturbing the mouse pointer. 4. Dealing with customer care operators: One of the most teadious job, not because we don't understand, but because they lack in understanding if you ask any uncommon question! :) (But I know they are also human beings so no joakes) Acha, seriously speaking, it can come only with practice. For example, generally in control pannel you don't have to right click. So even for properties, keep tabbing (phone and modem dialogue for example), and you end up reaching to the particular modem's properties. But the bottem line is only practice to my understanding. If you could give little specifics as to what are the situations in which you have to call customer care, may be everyone could as a general rule tell you something more in terms of this. One of the bad ways which I can tell you is to learn keyboard shortcuts, say (alt+enter) for properties. However, I treat it as a bad option because for some reason, people relying completely on shortcut keys end up forgetting the actual procedure, which is very useful for everyone to know when you have to deal with someone else's system. Your first question was actually good one! I still don't understand when our Jaws is on, and if some sighted buddy has to enter something in edit boxes, how do I explain him for switching on the forms mode with mouse! But never used so much of brain behind learning the concepts from their point of view. By the way, if you find it interesting, then why don't you order diagrams book on windows and office from either barrier break or diagrams from Saksham / enable india (Enable has it, whether or not they sell it that needs to be checked). But if you get a chance, then please see it first before ordering, as I have the book, but it never made sense to me. May be since I was reading braille after years and little dots embossement was an issue. Have Fun! Yes, Siddhi, I too am awaiting answers to your questions. It appears that none of PC/JAWS/invisible cursors corresponds to ubiquitous and simple mouse which sighted use to do everything but key in letters. -----Original Message----- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of siddhi desai Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 12:58 AM To: accessindia Subject: [AI] screen reader and sited person Hi all, I dont know weather this is discussed this on this list earlier. When i use internet and sighted person is besides me. many times, i face dificulties like: 1. how to make him understand terms like radio buttons, anchors. i mean is there any site which describes how these things look like so now if in case of "link" i can tell if you can see blue coloured line click on it. 2. How does double and single click differs? 3. Suppose i want to show that person which line i am on , i have to select the line. SO does this mean our pc cursor is not simelar normal cursor on the display? if not then our 3 cursors like invisible,jaws,pc can be made visible? say i am operating jaws cursor so can i show a sited person where cursor is moving? 4. Suppose i have called the customer care executive for my internet problem, the instructions he gives say you will be able to see some i con i get confuse weather should i go in context menu or use tab Is there any clew as in how to interpret this easily? Thanks in advance Regards Siddhi -- Amar Jain. Website: www.amarjain.com Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
