And another little thing. On pressing shift plus the relevant key, Jaws takes one to the last button/checkbox/combobox/list.... on a web page even from the top. Would be nice if NVDA could do the same, as reading webpages could be made a lot more easier with such flexibility.
On 9/6/13, Mahesh S. Panicker <maheshspanic...@gmail.com> wrote: > Over the last year or so, I have been trying to use more and more of > NVDA though Jaws remains my primary screen reader. As so many people > have already pointed out, the Jaws cursor like functionality is a > difficult part. As Harish Ji has already pointed out, the steps are > not as complicated as they might sound , but it is difficult to > understand at first, particularly for a Jaws user. > Another issue is with Jaws scripts, life is made so much easier with > Jaws with applications like Skype and GoogleTalk. Jaws can kind of > work with these applications, particularly the former without scripts > but not that well. I find the experience is same with NVDA, if they > could integrate the functionalities provided by Jaws Scripts to NVDA > as well, things could become a lot better. > Another thing might be specific to my style of use. I like the Jaws > function of Jaws key + Enter moving the web page by a few frames, > particularly useful when reading newspapers and such stuff. Has to > keep arrowing down in NVDA and that is something I really don't like. > This is a wonderful initiative and I hope NVDA continues to evolve and > go from strength to strength. > > On 9/6/13, Ashik <ashikhir...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I was also thinking of the same. A nice tutorial is necessary for us. I >> listened to the tutorial available, but I could not get much of it. I >> have >> nothing against the tutor, but the fact remains that we need a better >> tutorial. Dependar sir is requestted to develop one such tutorial. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Kotian, H P" <hpkot...@rbi.org.in> >> To: "Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile >> phonesand Tabs. " <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >> Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 1:00 PM >> Subject: Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE >> >> >>> Hi Dipendra >>> >>> Although the steps in reality are really simple once you do it yourself, >>> while reading about it it seems something that is not my cup for most. >>> >>> What I would suggest, is to make a small specific podcast with an >>> example >>> >>> which are carried out both in Jaws and NVDA for this specific task. >>> >>> Once folks get the concept of object navigation right they will >>> automatically get convinced about the utility of NVDA is a good screen >>> reader. >>> >>> Harish Kotian >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >>> Behalf Of Dipendra Manocha >>> Sent: 06 September 2013 12:47 >>> To: 'Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile >>> phones and Tabs. ' >>> Subject: Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE >>> >>> Review cursor is already always active. >>> >>> You do not need to activate it as you do with jaws. >>> >>> NVDA+arrow keys moves review cursor in current selected frame or as NVDA >>> calls it: inside the object. >>> >>> By increasing definition of frame to whole window, SAME COMMANDS DO >>> EXACTLY >>> WHAT JAWS CURSOR IS DOING. >>> >>> WHEN YOU REACH ANY OF THE BUTTON WHICH NEED TO BE ACTIVATED, YOU CAN >>> SIMPLY >>> PRESS NVDA+enter to activate the button under review cursor. >>> >>> In addition to this NVDA also provides audio feedback of movement of >>> actual >>> mouse pointer. >>> >>> You can also route mouse pointer to review cursor or to the insersion >>> pointer. Then activate left or right mouse clicks. >>> >>> With these tips, I would encourage you to go through the user manual >>> which >>> describes all these featues very well. >>> >>> There are also audio tutorials available for use of NVDA and link to >>> these >>> can be found at nvaccess.org web site itself. >>> >>> Thanks >>> Dipendra >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >>> Behalf >>> Of bhawani shankar verma >>> Sent: 06 September 2013 07:39 >>> To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of >>> mobilephones >>> and Tabs. >>> Subject: Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE >>> >>> sir, what is the alternate of jaws and invisible cursore in NVDA? >>> suppose >>> >>> I >>> want to press the close button with a jaws cursore, I can easily do it. >>> i >>> could not find the same in NVDA. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Dipendra Manocha" <dipendra.li...@gmail.com> >>> To: "accessindia" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >>> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 11:24 PM >>> Subject: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE >>> >>> >>>> Dear Access-Indians >>>> >>>> I would like to share a very exciting development in the area of >>>> Screen Reading software. As you all know that NVDA is an open source >>>> screen reading software that can be downloaded free of cost from >>>> nvaccess.org web site. >>>> Its >>>> latest version is 2013-2 released just few days ago. There are some >>>> good developments related to NVDA here in India. >>>> >>>> First; A development team is now working right here in India >>>> contributing new features and improving the screen reading software. >>>> The team is lead by one of our brightest software developer who >>>> himself is a screen reading software user. He is Mr. Manish Agrawal. >>>> Manish works full time with Sapient Technologies at very senior >>>> knowledge resource and he now gives 40% of his time specifically to >>>> the NVDA project. He is supported by one more dedicated developer and >>>> also very experienced screen reading software tester. >>>> >>>> IIT Delhi is also putting a team together to work under Manish to >>>> contribute in development of NVDA. >>>> >>>> All these efforts are under a joint project being implemented by CIS >>>> and Saksham and supported by enable-India. Thanks to Hans Foundation >>>> to provide financial support to run this project. >>>> >>>> Specific objective of getting a team here in India is to work on >>>> priorities set by users in India. The team started its work by >>>> concentrating on improving performance of NVDA in Microsoft office >>>> applications. Some of the remarkable improvements that Indian team >>>> contributed to NVDA include: >>>> >>>> Added sentence reading command >>>> Improved paragraph reading command performance specially with bullets >>>> and auto numbering Reading of protected documents in MS word >>>> Announcement of suggestions in microsoft outlook in to or cc fields >>>> Improvements of speech output in spell check dialogue box Reading of >>>> status bar im all office 2010 applications Etc... >>>> This list is growing fast and we can all appreciate that how important >>>> these features are for us. >>>> >>>> More important is that we now have developers who are very willing to >>>> listen to us and work on what we think are most important features for >>>> us in our jobs or educational environments. For example, One major >>>> reason due to which I myself was not able to switch to NVDA was that >>>> it did not announce auto complete suggestions of mail IDs in Microsoft >>>> outlook. Global team had this a very low priority because they always >>>> suggested to use thunderbird instead of MS Outlook. I could not make >>>> that shift due to my company policy and responsibilities. Indian >>>> development team fixed this issue and for past few months I am working >>>> very happily full time with NVDA as my full time screen reading >>>> software. What this team now wants is that the priorities of bug fixes >>>> or new feature requests should be set by the users themselves. So, >>>> here comes the opportunity to make a screen reading software work >>>> where we find that it is not working. If you would like to report an >>>> problem that you are facing use of NVDA or you feel NVDA is not >>>> providing information that you need, please report it to: >>>> sumandog...@gmail.com >>>> >>>> Normally there are three releases of NVDA every year. How-ever, if you >>>> would like to try out builds of version that NVDA development team in >>>> India is releasing, write to Suman with this intension on the e-mail >>>> provided above. >>>> These releases are issued after every bug fix. These are not ensured >>>> for stability and thus only those who would like to test out the new >>>> features and provide feedback should get into this mode of using NVDA. >>>> >>>> Last but not the least, We are getting very close of provide licenses >>>> of Eloquence to work with NVDA along with the license of Sangita and >>>> Vocaliser voices. Saksham will be providing these licenses in a few >>>> weeks to come after testing stability of whole new licensing system. >>>> >>>> I will also be writing soon about what is being done to add all Indian >>>> languages in E-speak TTS. 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