On 9/8/2013 11:03 PM, habeeb. c wrote:
Hello friends,
as we are conducting serious discussion on developing NVDa, i'm going
through an unsolvable dilemma. Developing a screenreader is a really
commendable thing, but what if it is not afordable and not attainable
to most people in a country. I know that the screenreader here is free
of coast, but how about the operating system. How many of us can aford
to pay for windows to install the particular screenreader.
We have already got Orca in linux, the facilities in Orca is available
in regional languages also. It has many problems, but they can be
easily solved, if there is a collective initiative from the part of
government, NGOs and other related circles. I doubt why all such
initiatives go to the corporate circle, and why the open source is
completely neglected. I don't know how many of my friends will be
comfortable with this idea, but if we don't have a collective
bargaining for such developments which are for all alike, the use of
technology will be limited to a miniscule minority, as it is now.
Apple I phones are the most advanced technology available today,
Howmany of us can purchase it?
regards
On 9/8/13, Kartik Sawhney <sawhney.kar...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
I mean the symbols dialog box in MS word.
Regards,
On 9/8/13, Ejaz Shah <e...@gmx.com> wrote:
You can enable the speaking of command keys with NVDA+4.
On 08/09/2013 12:54 PM, Parakh Rajesh wrote:
hai, NVDA does not speak enter and escape. what can be done?
regards,
rajesh parakh
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dipendra Manocha"
<dipendra.li...@gmail.com>
To: "'Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of
mobile phonesand Tabs. '" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 12:32 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE
Insert b command reads the entire window. The command works the same
way as
in NVDA too.
You could also use review keys to read the text in window line by line.
Thanks
Dipendra
-----Original Message-----
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf
Of Renuka Warriar Edakkunni
Sent: 07 September 2013 11:47
To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile
phones
and Tabs.
Subject: Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE
Hello,
I have one doubt. In JAWS, the download or copying status could be
checked
with the command insert+b, but I couldn't do it in NVDA. Is there any
mechanism to do it in NVDA. If no, my suggestion is to get it done.
Renuka.
On 9/7/13, Dipendra Manocha <dipendra.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
Scripting is cool framework to enhance capabilities of jaws. How ever,
it is new language for many and to get jaws configured for speicif
requirements, we could hardly find people who could do jaws scripting.
With NVDA development team development, we are trying to create a pool
of knowledge resource that could help us deal with such situations.
I hope once this project becomes a movement, more python developers
would be able to fix and address special configuration issues at much
faster pace.
I am amazed at the number of projects going on in India itself who try
to develop tools for blind for computers. If these teams become
contributors to NVDa project, we may end up having an army to deal
with.
This may happen if as users we ask for NVDA when we come to providing
accessibility to computers.
Thanks
Dipendra
-----Original Message-----
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf Of Mahesh S. Panicker
Sent: 06 September 2013 20:05
To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile
phones and Tabs.
Subject: Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE
Over the last year or so, I have been trying to use more and more of
NVDA though Jaws remains my primary screen reader. As so many people
have already pointed out, the Jaws cursor like functionality is a
difficult part. As Harish Ji has already pointed out, the steps are
not as complicated as they might sound , but it is difficult to
understand at first, particularly for a Jaws user.
Another issue is with Jaws scripts, life is made so much easier with
Jaws with applications like Skype and GoogleTalk. Jaws can kind of
work with these applications, particularly the former without scripts
but not that well. I find the experience is same with NVDA, if they
could integrate the functionalities provided by Jaws Scripts to NVDA
as well, things could become a lot better.
Another thing might be specific to my style of use. I like the Jaws
function of Jaws key + Enter moving the web page by a few frames,
particularly useful when reading newspapers and such stuff. Has to
keep arrowing down in NVDA and that is something I really don't like.
This is a wonderful initiative and I hope NVDA continues to evolve and
go from strength to strength.
On 9/6/13, Ashik <ashikhir...@gmail.com> wrote:
I was also thinking of the same. A nice tutorial is necessary for us.
I listened to the tutorial available, but I could not get much of it.
I have nothing against the tutor, but the fact remains that we need a
better tutorial. Dependar sir is requestted to develop one such
tutorial.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kotian, H P" <hpkot...@rbi.org.in>
To: "Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of
mobile phonesand Tabs. " <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE
Hi Dipendra
Although the steps in reality are really simple once you do it
yourself, while reading about it it seems something that is not my
cup
for most.
What I would suggest, is to make a small specific podcast with an
example
which are carried out both in Jaws and NVDA for this specific task.
Once folks get the concept of object navigation right they will
automatically get convinced about the utility of NVDA is a good
screen reader.
Harish Kotian
-----Original Message-----
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf Of Dipendra Manocha
Sent: 06 September 2013 12:47
To: 'Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of
mobile phones and Tabs. '
Subject: Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING
SOFTWARE
Review cursor is already always active.
You do not need to activate it as you do with jaws.
NVDA+arrow keys moves review cursor in current selected frame or as
NVDA+NVDA
calls it: inside the object.
By increasing definition of frame to whole window, SAME COMMANDS DO
EXACTLY WHAT JAWS CURSOR IS DOING.
WHEN YOU REACH ANY OF THE BUTTON WHICH NEED TO BE ACTIVATED, YOU CAN
SIMPLY PRESS NVDA+enter to activate the button under review cursor.
In addition to this NVDA also provides audio feedback of movement of
actual mouse pointer.
You can also route mouse pointer to review cursor or to the
insersion pointer. Then activate left or right mouse clicks.
With these tips, I would encourage you to go through the user manual
which describes all these featues very well.
There are also audio tutorials available for use of NVDA and link to
these can be found at nvaccess.org web site itself.
Thanks
Dipendra
-----Original Message-----
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf Of bhawani shankar verma
Sent: 06 September 2013 07:39
To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of
mobilephones and Tabs.
Subject: Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING
SOFTWARE
sir, what is the alternate of jaws and invisible cursore in NVDA?
suppose
I
want to press the close button with a jaws cursore, I can easily do
it. i could not find the same in NVDA.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dipendra Manocha" <dipendra.li...@gmail.com>
To: "accessindia" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 11:24 PM
Subject: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE
Dear Access-Indians
I would like to share a very exciting development in the area of
Screen Reading software. As you all know that NVDA is an open
source screen reading software that can be downloaded free of cost
from nvaccess.org web site.
Its
latest version is 2013-2 released just few days ago. There are some
good developments related to NVDA here in India.
First; A development team is now working right here in India
contributing new features and improving the screen reading
software.
The team is lead by one of our brightest software developer who
himself is a screen reading software user. He is Mr. Manish
Agrawal.
Manish works full time with Sapient Technologies at very senior
knowledge resource and he now gives 40% of his time specifically to
the NVDA project. He is supported by one more dedicated developer
and also very experienced screen reading software tester.
IIT Delhi is also putting a team together to work under Manish to
contribute in development of NVDA.
All these efforts are under a joint project being implemented by
CIS and Saksham and supported by enable-India. Thanks to Hans
Foundation to provide financial support to run this project.
Specific objective of getting a team here in India is to work on
priorities set by users in India. The team started its work by
concentrating on improving performance of NVDA in Microsoft office
applications. Some of the remarkable improvements that Indian team
contributed to NVDA include:
Added sentence reading command
Improved paragraph reading command performance specially with
bullets and auto numbering Reading of protected documents in MS
word Announcement of suggestions in microsoft outlook in to or cc
fields Improvements of speech output in spell check dialogue box
Reading of status bar im all office 2010 applications Etc...
This list is growing fast and we can all appreciate that how
important these features are for us.
More important is that we now have developers who are very willing
to listen to us and work on what we think are most important
features for us in our jobs or educational environments. For
example, One major reason due to which I myself was not able to
switch to NVDA was that it did not announce auto complete
suggestions of mail IDs in Microsoft outlook. Global team had this
a very low priority because they always suggested to use
thunderbird instead of MS Outlook. I could not make that shift due
to my company policy and responsibilities. Indian development team
fixed this issue and for past few months I am working very happily
full time with NVDA as my full time screen reading software. What
this team now wants is that the priorities of bug fixes or new
feature requests should be set by the users themselves. So, here
comes the opportunity to make a screen reading software work where
we find that it is not working. If you would like to report an
problem that you are facing use of NVDA or you feel NVDA is not
providing information
that you need, please report it to:
sumandog...@gmail.com
Normally there are three releases of NVDA every year. How-ever, if
you would like to try out builds of version that NVDA development
team in India is releasing, write to Suman with this intension on
the e-mail provided above.
These releases are issued after every bug fix. These are not
ensured for stability and thus only those who would like to test
out the new features and provide feedback should get into this mode
of using
NVDA.
Last but not the least, We are getting very close of provide
licenses of Eloquence to work with NVDA along with the license of
Sangita and Vocaliser voices. Saksham will be providing these
licenses in a few weeks to come after testing stability of whole
new
licensing system.
I will also be writing soon about what is being done to add all
Indian languages in E-speak TTS. So, keep watch in this area as lot
of exciting developments are happening here.
Wishing everyone all the best and a happy teacher's day.
Dipendra Manocha
Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing
accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on:
http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_
a
cc
essindia.org.in
Search for old postings at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/
To unsubscribe send a message to
accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in
with the subject unsubscribe.
To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other
changes, please visit the list home page at
http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.
o
rg
.in
Disclaimer:
1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the
thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates
itself to its veracity;
2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on
the mails sent through this mailing list..
Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing
accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on:
http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_a
c
cessind
ia.org.in
Search for old postings at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/
To unsubscribe send a message to
accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in
with the subject unsubscribe.
To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other
changes, please visit the list home page at
http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.o
r
g.in
Disclaimer:
1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the
thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates
itself to its veracity;
2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the
mails sent through this mailing list..
Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing
accessibility of
mobile phones / Tabs on:
http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_a
c
cessindia.org.in
Search for old postings at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/
To unsubscribe send a message to
accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in
with the subject unsubscribe.
To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other
changes, please visit the list home page at
http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.o
r
g.in
Disclaimer:
1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the
thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates
itself to its veracity;
2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the
mails
sent through this mailing list..
Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing
accessibility of
mobile phones / Tabs on:
http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_a
c
cessindia.org.in
Search for old postings at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/
To unsubscribe send a message to
accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in
with the subject unsubscribe.
To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other
changes, please visit the list home page at
http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.o
r
g.in
Disclaimer:
1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the
thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates
itself to its veracity;
2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the
mails
sent through this mailing list..
Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing
accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on:
http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_ac
c
essindia.org.in
Search for old postings at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/
To unsubscribe send a message to
accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in
with the subject unsubscribe.
To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes,
please visit the list home page at
http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.or
g
.in
Disclaimer:
1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking
of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its
veracity;
2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the
mails sent through this mailing list..
--
Mahesh S. Panicker
Assistant Professor, Department of Political Science, Lady Shri Ram
College, Lajpat Nagar New Delhi 110024
Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing
accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on:
http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_acc
essind
ia.org.in
Search for old postings at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/
To unsubscribe send a message to
accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in
with the subject unsubscribe.
To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes,
please visit the list home page at
http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org
.in
Disclaimer:
1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking
of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its
veracity;
2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the
mails sent through this mailing list..
Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing
accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on:
http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_acc
essindia.org.in
Search for old postings at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/
To unsubscribe send a message to
accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in
with the subject unsubscribe.
To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes,
please visit the list home page at
http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org
.in
Disclaimer:
1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking
of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its
veracity;
2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the
mails sent through this mailing list..
Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing
accessibility of
mobile phones / Tabs on:
http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind
ia.org.in
Search for old postings at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/
To unsubscribe send a message to
accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in
with the subject unsubscribe.
To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes,
please
visit the list home page at
http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Disclaimer:
1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking
of the
person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its
veracity;
2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the
mails
sent through this mailing list..
Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing
accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on:
http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Search for old postings at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/
To unsubscribe send a message to
accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in
with the subject unsubscribe.
To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes,
please visit the list home page at
http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Disclaimer:
1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking
of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its
veracity;
2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the
mails sent through this mailing list..
Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing
accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on:
http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Search for old postings at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/
To unsubscribe send a message to
accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in
with the subject unsubscribe.
To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes,
please visit the list home page at
http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Disclaimer:
1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking
of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its
veracity;
2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the
mails sent through this mailing list..
Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility
of
mobile phones / Tabs on:
http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Search for old postings at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/
To unsubscribe send a message to
accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in
with the subject unsubscribe.
To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes,
please
visit the list home page at
http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Disclaimer:
1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of
the
person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity;
2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the
mails
sent through this mailing list..
--
-Kartik Sawhney,
Mob.: 91-9560953728
Landline: 91-11-29811529
E-mail ID: sawhney.kar...@gmail.com (all personal E-mails);
karti...@stanford.edu (all academic E-mails)
Skype: kartik.sawhney22
Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of
mobile phones / Tabs on:
http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Search for old postings at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/
To unsubscribe send a message to
accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in
with the subject unsubscribe.
To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please
visit the list home page at
http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Disclaimer:
1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the
person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity;
2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails
sent through this mailing list..
Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of
mobile phones / Tabs on:
http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Search for old postings at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/
To unsubscribe send a message to
accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in
with the subject unsubscribe.
To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please
visit the list home page at
http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Disclaimer:
1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the
person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity;
2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent
through this mailing list..
Hi, I am selling computers for last 3 years. most of the laptops comes
with pre-installed windows. It means you won't need to pay too much for
a copy of windows. I know to assemble, troubleshoot and install any
kinds of computer systems. From my personal experience, I never find any
professional qualities or performance from free operating systems as I
expected.
Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of
mobile phones / Tabs on:
http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Search for old postings at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/
To unsubscribe send a message to
accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in
with the subject unsubscribe.
To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please
visit the list home page at
http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Disclaimer:
1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the
person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity;
2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent
through this mailing list..
