Hi Ketan Agreed in full. Presently, we are better than 1995 where there was no legislation. Presently, the effort is to better it. No way we should take any step backward. If we smell a rat, we better not shut our eyes.
I think, all the sector has representative stakeholder. It is not important to fight for who will take the lead rather to take the business at hand seriously. Let us not take a privelleged position about championing the cause of the less privelleged. Each stakeholder is well capable of voicing their concerns. Let us all be at level field but work with a give and take spirit. Harish Kotian -----Original Message----- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Ketan Kothari Sent: 06 February 2014 16:23 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Rights of Persons with Disabilities Bill Dear Harish, I entirely agree that we must not allow someone else to determine our rights. Although there were some concerns about the committee draft of 2011, it was thousand times better than what we are left with. I would like 2011 draft to become our starting point. My concern is that now "nothing about us without us" is also a dicy proposition as the house is divided; those who purport to work for us have shown us what and where everything is being led. Also, I would like to request our blind friends that while we have to guard our interest with full consciousness, we must also work for those disabilitiess that are more marginalized than others. Blind must take the leadership in this movement now as we did a few years ago. Let us hope that better sense will prevail. With best wishes, Ketan On 2/6/14, Kotian, H P <hpkot...@rbi.org.in> wrote: > Dear Ketan > > The question really is: > 1 Wait until an ideal draft is ready which is acceptable to all > stakeholders? > 2 Get the legislation and work for the amendments. > > The difficult question is even if we wait and again go through the > consultation process will the babus still water it down all over again? Even > the one which went through the consultation process was not fully acceptable > in some quarters. In my view, we the stakeholders should first work to make > a draft which is generally good and not having serious concerns. I agree, it > is impossible to get a draft which is 100% appealing to all. > > I think, no political dispensation is concerned with the political > ramification of this bill and hence, it should not hold serious significance > to any political entity which takes over post election. > > Therefore, in my focus should be first get a good draft and later, > collectively work for its passage. > > We should not by any means compromise on "nothing for us without us". > > This is my personal take on this subject. > > Harish Kotian. > > -----Original Message----- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf > Of Ketan Kothari > Sent: 06 February 2014 13:06 > To: accessindia > Subject: [AI] Rights of Persons with Disabilities Bill > > Dear friends, > > We have all been discussing this legislation for a few days now and > obviously our passions are running high with the way this is being > imposed upon us. I personally feel that this is also a significant > way of looking at our polity and our sector: > > This law was to have been in actuality one of the most consulted and > discussed piece of legislation in the history of this country. I > remember having participated in several such discussions. But as it > turned out: we are being handed a raw deal. Our sector is > legitimately upset about this. > > Congress, BJP, Communists or any one do not really care for us. None > of the senior parliamentarian is ever concerned about disability. > > India ratified UNCRPD without reservations: This could have meant 1 > of 2 things: either the nation is serious to change the entire legal > regime to bring it in tune with the Convention or (and this is more > likely in our case) just ratify the damned document and make disabled > happy. > > I am still perplexed as to how are we going to have UNCRPD implemented > merely by having the new disability law (certainly not this one with > all its inadequacies) when there are so many laws that run counter to > the Convention. > > This sure needs to be kept in mind by us at the time of considering > the new law and should also insist in the amendment of the other > relevant laws. > > With best wishes, > > Ketan > > -- > Ketan Kothari > Phone: [r] 24223281, > Cell: 9987550614 > MSN ID: muktake...@hotmail.com > Skype ID: Ketan3333 > > Time to meet up again! > Register for AccessIndia Convention 2014: > http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm > > > > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of > mobile phones / Tabs on: > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Disclaimer: > 1. 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