Those who are saying they have paid from 500 to 10,000 to attend confrences doesn't really drive the idea that one should pay and attend. And more you pay better the confrence. no guarantee. Just one example quality academicians including Nome Chomsky and Michael Sandle have refused to write for Journals which charge readers exorbitant amount. Knowledge Dissimination on Internet for free is picking momentum and being in one of the poorest countries, we should support such movements. Cambridge and Oxford Universities have already started circulating their lectures for free on Youtube. And HereI should inform you sir. In Jawaharlal Nehru University Which is buzz with talks and seminars, No student ever pays for attending any confrence and outsiders are equally invited. State is bound to release financial outlay to be invested for confrences/seminars/conventions. I will be a faculty in one or the other universities for sure. But state will take care of my needs but economically modest Students will not be burdened to pay.
And Harish Sir Sorry to read from you block quote We must rise above the begging bowl mindset block quote end Please you being the moderator of a reputed mailing list such written expression is unwarranted. Who beggs is very subjective notion, those who demand rights from the state? or those who find money from corporates which covertly drive where it is to be invested. On 2/18/14, Kotian, H P <hpkot...@rbi.org.in> wrote: > Dear Avinash > > I really need to respond to you. > 1 When a fee is set, it is clear it is not free lunch and you need to pay. > Sneeking in clandestinely is not acceptable. > 2 On the request of members we cut the registration by 50% to all. > Thereafter no one complained about the cost. > 3 We kept the window open for those who could not afford this amount as > well. > > Regarding your arguement, > " nobody charges penny for atending any confrences. It is against the > ethics of knowledge disssimination." > I am apauled to see the word "ethics" being used in this context. With > respect to the remaining words "knowledge discimination" so all those who > provide knowledge including centres of knowledge should do so free and the > teachers should not charge anything for this. > > I would look forward for you to do so in the comming days. > > Coming to the point. > 1 We must rise above the begging bowl mindset. > 2 We must pay for services for which you are expected to pay. > 3 Until and unless there is a revenue model, we can't expect any service of > quality to come to us. > > Besides this there were other issues I would like to highlight. > > 1 There were about 140 who registered online. Some sent advanced > information, they were unable to come. However, there was a good number who > did not bother to inform. Food and other logistic arrangements were made for > them. This has all got waste. There is a cost to all that and more > importantly an moral obligation to inform before hand.There were others who > showed only on the first day and again they did not inform they were not > comming the second day. > 2 Delegates were chit chatting causing disturvance and disrespect to the > speakers. It was very upsetting when the speaker had to bluntly demand > silence. Friends, do we deserve such reprimand? > > The bottom line of all this is our insensitivity and lack of our sense of > being responsible citizen. > > If we don't correct ourselves, we will have to pay a huge price for this. > Already we have an adverse mindset and this will only go to strengthen > them. > > This is not a finger pointing exercise it is for us to reflect and to > correct our course. > > Harish Kotian. > > -----Original Message----- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf > Of Vikas Kapoor > Sent: 17 February 2014 23:13 > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning > the disabled. > Subject: Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention > > On the contrary, I've attended several conferences which charge Rs.500 to > Rs.1000 as registration fee. Everything doesn't work on sponsorship. I > don't > think that this list did anything wrong to make it a huge success! Whether > somebody has the ability to pay for it or not is entirely a different > matter > altogether. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "avinash shahi" <shahi88avin...@gmail.com> > To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues > concerningthe disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 10:59 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention > > > I've attended countless confrences and seminars of utmost repute but > nobody charges penny for atending any confrences. It is against the > ethics of knowledge disssimination. > But what you wrote > Block quote > I had also put in the list, we had an offer from our delagate, that he > would sponsor the registration cost in case someone was so inclined > but did not have the funds for it. No one approached for this offer. > Then, why this indulgence? > block quote end > Please understand nobody wants someone should sponser somebody's > attendance in any paid convention anywhere in the world. I heard many > reputed intellectuals and individuals attended talks and exhibitions > but didn't touch food in fact tea. > So such allegation is unwarranted. Please if we really wish to > dissiminate knowledge and quality information to those who truly > cherish such conventions , let us rise much ahead from such > restrictive restrictions. > If we can find sponsers for minny events there is not difficulty in > arranging money for those who wish to excell in life despite > undescribable miseries. But such arrangements have to be made without > letting people know who did such wonders. > arranging money is not a big deal at all we are capable to find > contributers from all hues. > I just responded because didn't find this allegation acceptable > publicklly for those who don't have mere money. > Regards > > On 2/17/14, Kotian, H P <hpkot...@rbi.org.in> wrote: >> All >> >> This time the mail is not regarding convention update <smile>. Back home >> after this event. >> >> Glad all the speakers graced their sessions and it was heart warming to >> see >> the delegates participating enthusiastically in and out of the >> audotorium. >> I >> guess the purpose of this convention got largely achieved. >> >> I must thank George and the score foundation who took meticulous care to >> make the stay comfortable and to put the logistics in place. I do express >> my >> satisfaction with the presentation and the rich hue of topics which got >> touched in these two days. >> >> I saw a lot of bonding and strengthen friendships in these last 2 days. >> This >> is really my yardstick to look at the convention. >> >> What made me very upset that, I was told, some persons had not paid up >> for >> the convention and sneaked in to the various events. This is not right at >> all. I take it on myself, that, we haven't been able to raise above such >> trifle slips. Such folks are a blot to the community. What they don't >> realise that, these things also come into notice and gives reason to >> think >> ill about us. Each one of us are ambassadors in their own rights. >> >> I had also put in the list, we had an offer from our delagate, that he >> would >> sponsor the registration cost in case someone was so inclined but did not >> have the funds for it. No one approached for this offer. Then, why this >> indulgence? >> >> Well, friends thanks for all those who put small and big efforts and all >> the >> delegates who came along from many states of the country.It was nice to >> be >> with each one of you. >> Warmly >> Harish Kotian. >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> Caution: The Reserve Bank of India never sends mails, smses or makes >> calls >> asking for personal information like your bank account details, >> passwords, >> etc. It never keeps or offers funds to anyone. Please do not respond in >> any >> manner to such offers, however official or attractive they may look. >> >> Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and >> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are >> addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, >> review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in >> this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. 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