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>    1. Re: IT Help Desk (SatyaNarayana Murthy Tanikella)
>    2. Pune: Mentally ill woman 'raped' by 4 men,      cops look for
>       suspects (avinash shahi)
>    3. Re: Fw: [Important] Introducing Tamil OCR Scanning Software
>       for SpeedyBraille Production & Reading Tamil Books (nagaraj p.)
>    4. Re: Regarding windows 8.1 update. (Ajay Minocha)
>    5. IT Help Desk (Narendra Vg)
>    6. Re: Petition for Inclusion of Disabled in the Constitution of
>       India (karnati srinivas)
>    7. Research on Matrimonial Thoughts of Visually Impaired Persons
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 12:49:31 +0530
> From: SatyaNarayana Murthy Tanikella
>       <satyanarayanamurthy.tanike...@gmail.com>
> To: narendra.eict2...@gmail.com
> Cc: accessindia <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> Subject: Re: [AI] IT Help Desk
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> Hi Narendra,
> What is exactly IT help desk you are looking for?
> I assume you meant IT help desk.
>  It varies from organization to organization.
> in Big organisations like IBM/Oracle Software engineers mostly 
> concentrate on actual software development like Oracle/ Solaris what 
> ever it may be.
> They don't concentrate on Infrastructure required for software 
> development like work stations or servers etc etc.
> if Software engineers face any issues related to their work stations 
> sw staff need to approach help desk people.
> Some times they I mean help desk ppl will help to you to  solve your 
> problem otherwise you need to go for helpdesk engineer or they call 
> them as service desk personell.
> I hope this help if not please call me on my mob.
> Best regards.
> Satyanarayana Murthy Tanikella
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 13:02:49 +0530
> From: avinash shahi <shahi88avin...@gmail.com>
> To: accessindia <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>,     jnuvision
>       <jnuvis...@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [AI] Pune: Mentally ill woman 'raped' by 4 men,      cops look
for
>       suspects
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> Four unidentified persons allegedly raped a 30-year-old mentally-ill 
> woman who had left home because her mother did not give her ice-cream.
> http://indianexpress.com/article/cities/pune/mentally-ill-woman-raped-
> by-4-men-cops-look-for-suspects/ The victim's mother lodged a 
> complaint at Bhosari police station on Friday.
>
> Police said the victim lives with her family in Bopkhel area of 
> Pimpri-Chinchwad. Her family members had got ice-cream to serve guests 
> at their home on April 30. The woman was upset because she was not 
> offered ice-cream. She left home without telling any of her family 
> members, police said.
>
>    to help us personalise your reading experience.
> Her mother then filed a missing report with the Bhosari police. Even 
> as the police launched a search, the victim returned home. She told 
> her mother that after fleeing from home she met a man who took her to 
> Mumbai, saying that he would marry her.
>
> The man then allegedly took her to a lodge and raped her. The man also 
> took her to a room in some farm land. The man called three more 
> persons to the spot, who also allegedly raped the woman. Later, they 
> told the woman to go home.
>
> Assistant inspector R T Daravade said, "Medical tests of the woman are 
> being conducted. It is a sensitive case as the victim is mentally 
> unsound. A probe is on."
>
>
> --
> Avinash Shahi
> M.Phil Research Scholar
> Centre for The Study of Law and Governance Jawaharlal Nehru University 
> New Delhi India
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 04 May 2014 13:49:34 +0530
> From: "nagaraj p." <kodumudinaga...@gmail.com>
> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>       concerning      the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: [Important] Introducing Tamil OCR Scanning
>       Software for SpeedyBraille Production & Reading Tamil Books
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> thanks for the excellent job.
> On 5/2/2014 4:37 PM, Praful Vyas wrote:
>> Good news for Tamils people.
>>
>> Praful Vyas.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Karishma Enterprises
>> To: do_not_re...@karishmaenterprises.com
>> Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:39 PM
>> Subject: [Important] Introducing Tamil OCR Scanning Software for 
>> SpeedyBraille Production & Reading Tamil Books
>>
>>
>> Dear Friends,
>>
>>
>>
>> If you are producing Tamil Braille materials, here is good news for you!
>>
>>
>>
>> Conversion of Tamil printed books and materials into Tamil Braille 
>> has always been a challenge due to the laborious task for physically 
>> typing Tamil text or Tamil Braille on the PC before converting the 
>> same to Braille format for production of Tamil Braille
>>
>>
>>
>> Now the waiting period is over with the Tamil OCR Scanning Software 
>> just released!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> All you need is an ordinary flatbed scanner and the Tamil OCR 
>> Scanning Software for conversion of Braille books; it will now speed 
>> up the production of Tamil Braille books as it will eliminate the 
>> need to do the laborious task of typing the Tamil books. Just simply 
>> scan the Tamil printed book, convert to text format and translate to 
>> Braille format using Duxbury Braille Translation Software and emboss 
>> the Braille books with your Index Braille Embosser.
>>
>>
>>
>> ?  Reading of Tamil Books: You can even assist the Visually 
>> Handicapped students to also read Tamil textbooks, library books, 
>> magazines, newspapers and letters, etc. with the combination of Tamil 
>> OCR and eSpeak Software.
>>
>>
>>
>> ?  Creation of Digital Library: Now you can even create a Digital 
>> Library of Tamil books by digitizing the printed books and records if 
>> required with Tamil OCR Scanning Software.
>>
>>
>>
>> ?  Features & Benefits:
>>
>> We are pleased to give below the special features of the Tamil OCR 
>> Scanning Software:
>>
>>
>>
>> ?      High recognition accuracy and speed
>>
>> ?      Unicode output
>>
>> ?      Batch recognition: Scan large numbers of pages, and have them
>> recognized "at one go". To save as a single file.
>>
>> ?      Processes standard image formats (bmp, jpg, png, tiff, gif).
>>
>> ?      We recommend using the program on Windows 7. Tested on Windows XP
>> SP3.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ?  Trial: In case you wish to try out the software we would 
>> appreciate if you would kindly write to us we shall be glad to send you
the Demo link.
>> Alternatively, you can place your order in our favour alongwith the 
>> Demand Draft and we shall then immediately send you the software package.
>>
>> ?  For more details and price, please contact us!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> In case you require any further information or clarification, please 
>> contact us and we shall be glad to provide the same.
>>
>>
>>
>> Looking forward to hearing from you.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Ram Agarwal
>>
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Sole Distributors of Freedom Scientific Inc., USA for India & the 
>> neighbouring countries
>>
>>
>>
>> Karishma Enterprises
>>
>> 132 Maker Tower B,
>>
>> Cuffe Parade, Mumbai -400005
>>
>> India
>>
>>
>>
>> Phone: 022-22181853
>>
>> Telefax:  022-22153291
>>
>>
>>
>> Mobile: 9867310297 or 9321539290
>>
>>
>>
>> Direct Email id: ramagarwal...@gmail.com
>>
>> Company Email id: cont...@karishmaenterprises.com
>>
>> Website: www.karishmaenterprises.com
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 14:45:48 +0530
> From: Ajay Minocha <ajayminoc...@gmail.com>
> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
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> Subject: Re: [AI] Regarding windows 8.1 update.
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> Hi Austin,
> Is it possible to do a clean install from such an iso with windows 8 
> product key?
> if yes then, can you please share the link for the same?
> Thanks,
> Ajay
>
> On 5/4/14, Austin Pinto <austinpinto.xavi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> no then u need to download the update from the store and after 
>> installing remove the windows.old folder and use sysprop to capture a 
>> wim file then replace the wim in the windows 8 iso with the new 1.
>> if u get a windows 8.1 iso from tech net then no way to upgrade just 
>> do a clean install
>>
>> On 5/3/14, Ajay Minocha <ajayminoc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Austin,
>>> I am not able to install windows 8.1 from a windows8 product key.
>>> Actually, when I run windows 8.1 upgrade assistant, it shows that 
>>> this product key didn't work.
>>> Any solution for this?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ajay
>>>
>>> On 5/1/14, Ajay Minocha <ajayminoc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi Austin,
>>>> Suppose, I have made a clean install of windows 8 and I have 
>>>> windows
>>>> 8.1 iso as well.
>>>> Now, can you please describe the process to upgrade my windows 8 
>>>> installation from previously downloaded iso itself without 
>>>> downloading again?
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Ajay
>>>>
>>>> On 4/30/14, Austin Pinto <austinpinto.xavi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> hi.
>>>>> yes its more accessable.
>>>>> do u have the serial key?
>>>>> if yes u can directly download the iso from microsoft.
>>>>> to download this iso go to.
>>>>> http://winsupersite.com/windows-8/windows-81-tip-download-windows-
>>>>> 81-iso-windows-8-product-key however u need to take care of some 
>>>>> things.
>>>>> 1. download the iso from the pc that your going to upgrade.
>>>>> 2. in the download process there will be a option to create iso 
>>>>> check that.
>>>>> 3. you can only apply this iso to this pc.
>>>>> 4. if u want iso for other pc then u need to download from that pc 
>>>>> using the product key of the pc
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/30/14, Ajay Minocha <ajayminoc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi friends,
>>>>>> I am running jenuan windows 8 which I want to update to windows 8.1.
>>>>>> However, I have following questions before applying the update.
>>>>>> 1. any differences in the accessibility after applying the update?
>>>>>> 2. I can download the file only once therefore, is there any way 
>>>>>> which can let me directly install or apply the update without 
>>>>>> using internet connection when I format my pc for the next time?
>>>>>> 3. Please tell me the steps to do the same.
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Ajay
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 16:46:54 +0530
> From: Narendra Vg <narendra.eict2...@gmail.com>
> To: accessindia <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> Subject: [AI] IT Help Desk
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 17:02:29 +0530
> From: "karnati srinivas" <srinivas.carn...@gmail.com>
> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
>       issuesconcerning the    disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> Subject: Re: [AI] Petition for Inclusion of Disabled in the
>       Constitution of India
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> sir:
> the link www.sambhavana.org is not opening please paste the content and
send
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nikhil Jain" <ni...@rediffmail.com>
> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2014 12:18 PM
> Subject: [AI] Petition for Inclusion of Disabled in the Constitution of
> India
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>> Note: Forwarded message attached
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>> -- Original Message --
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>>
>>
>> From: "Dr.Nikhil Jain" drni...@gmail.com
>>
>> To: "Dr. Manisha Gupta" drmanishagu...@gmail.com, Nikhil Jain
>> ni...@rediffmail.com
>>
>> Subject: Petition for Inclusion of Disabled in the Constitution of India
>>
>> Dr. Nikhil Jain
>>
>> assistant Professor ( Pol. Sc.)
>>
>> Department of Political Science
>>
>> Dyal Singh College (University of Delhi)
>>
>> Elected AC member (DU)
>>
>> Mobile: 9818021880
>>
>> Emails: ni...@rediffmail.com, drni...@gmail.com, nik...@sambhavana.org
>>
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>> President, Sambhavana Organization
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 17:16:57 +0530
> From: Sushmeetha <sushmee...@voicevision.in>
> To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>       concerning      the disabled.'" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> Subject: [AI] Research on Matrimonial Thoughts of Visually Impaired
>       Persons
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> Dear Friends
>
> Below is a research conducted on the thoughts of Marriage by persons with
> visual impairment. Request all of you to kindly fill in the form and
support
> the student.
>
> Hope to see an overwhelming support.
>
> From: Vaidehi Chilwarwar [mailto:vaidehi.chilwar...@gmail.com]
>
>
> I, Ms. Vaidehi Chilwarwar, a student of M.A in Applied Psychology from
Tata
> Institute of Social Sciences, Mumbai (TISS) as a part of my research wish
to
> collect data on my topic that is SELECTION OF MARRIAGE PARTNER IN
> INDIVIDUALS WITH VISUAL IMPAIRMENT.
>
> The area of study is to look at the various characteristics that
> individuals, in the age range of 18 to 35 years, consider when they are
> thinking of selecting their marriage partner. The study is to understand
the
> importance of marriage and to identify the factors that influence the
> selection of prospective marriage partner.
> Enclosed below is a questionnaire which looks at the characteristics while
> selecting a marriage partner. The data collection is only for the purpose
of
> research and all the information gathered shall remain completely
> confidential. All the data including your name and other details will be
> kept anonymous.
>
> I would like to request you to please complete the questionnaire, as
> incomplete questionnaire leads to data loss.
> Your responses are of great value to my study and I would appreciate if
you
> could take precious time to complete this questionnaire sincerely.
> The Inclusion Criteria is :-
> Participants- Legally Blind Individuals (more than 60% visual impairment)
> Residence- Mumbai
> Language- English Speaking Individuals
> Age- 18 to 35 years old
> Marital status- Unmarried/Currently Single
>
>
> Following is the Link:-
>
>
>
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/142zgEo1MeJdfhFCB-ngIrfLy2htrRTuOLT9N6EjrzMM
/viewform?sid&c=0&w=1&token&usp=mail_form_link
>
> Kindly forward this mail along with the aforementioned information to only
> 6-7 individuals for now so that I can carry out my pilot study and make
the
> necessary changes in the questionnaire after gathering the data form
atleast
> 10 individuals. After discussing the findings with my researcher and
> integrating the changes I will resend you the link which you can upload on
> the website.
>
>
> Regards
> Vaidehi
>
>
>
> -------------------------
> Voice Vision,Mumbai,India
>
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