Dil ke khush rakhne ko ghalib khayal achha hay!!
Anyway, all this presupposes that a blind child would be well above
average
in dealing withlife, and society also in turn would be far mature and
sophisticated.
My simple question is:
does a blind person not have the right to be just average?
With thanks and regards
(Rajesh Asudani)
Assistant General Manager
Market Intelligence Unit
Reserve Bank of India
Nagpur
Tel.: 0712 2806358
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-----Original Message-----
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf
Of George Abraham
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 7:51 AM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Insulted by a university teacher, blind attempted
suicide
Just as we expect and campaign for an accessible World to live in our
education system is expected to be accessible in all its dimensions.
Technologies used , strategies deployed have to not only create a level
playing field but also provide all children with choices to learn and
do
things. For example if blind children are allowed the option of writing
exams using computers then all children must have the choice of using
computers. The problems arise when you have special solutions deployed
for
so called special children and in the process isolate. Inclusion has to
happen with a universal design outlook. Inclusion is not just about
placing
disabled children in a mainstream school and addressing their special
needs. Inclusion is about a class room that is accessible, a pedagogy
that
reaches out to all children in class, a curriculum that is more focused
towards skill development rather than being content heavy. In other
words
inclusive education should not be a cut and paste job to accommodate
disabled children but needs to be looked at afresh with a lens of
universal
design that addresses the diversity.
Given the fact that we the blind want opportunities in the World, we
need
to
1. see how we can be empowered enough to be part of the World
2. The people around needs to be given sufficient opportunity to see,
understand and appreciate the potential of all of us so that their
hesitation, reluctance and resistence to including us is wiped out.
We live in an imperfect World. There is a constant room for
improvement.
Nothing stops us from aspiring for a better World. We are not compelled
to
settle for inadequate options. We need to keep the big picture in mind
and
strive to eliminate the limitations of the systems and create a better
World for our selves There are problems with the way inclusion is
happening. We would be well served if we look at finding solutions to
the
challenges we face rather than merely sitting back and being critical
of
the structures. Problems are there we need to look for the way forward.
If
we want to be included then we need to strive for inclusion right from
the
beginning so that we are equipped and so is the World equipped to
include.
The World and life is driven by our dreams and aspirations together
with
our desire to make the dream real.
-----Original Message-----
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf
Of avinash shahi
Sent: 24 July 2014 22:51
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Insulted by a university teacher, blind attempted
suicide
Dear Vamshi sir
Your question reminded me of one great paper which has been published
in the current issue of 'Disability & Society'; Author of the paper is
a blind PH.D scholar who has shared his experiences of regular school
in Australia. I just want to share few paragraphs which are relevan
in Indian context also,and can help us in understanding the real
situation of disabled children in better way. These paragraphs are
worth-reading. Hope all would find time to go through...
block quote
Davis (1995) argues that social ontology is heavily weighted towards
normalcy. The biological and social aberration that inflicts people
with disabilities ensures that they fail to live up to this standard
(Snyder and Mitchell 2007). In schools, a 'deliberate act of
dislocation (Erevelles 2011, 71) therefore forces children with
impairments into the deficit discourse, because they are regarded as
being already detached from the normal centre.
Special education policy and practice is the apparatus that dislocates
students with disabilities from the mainstream (Erevelles 2011). The
ambiguity or spectre of inclusion that 'haunts' the lives of people
labelled with special needs insures that inclusion is simultaneously
present and absent.
block quote end
B. Whitburn further writes
block quote
In primary school I was placed in classes in which teachers were
confident that they could include me in their classes. However, given
that I was a slightly abnormal student, they worked closely with
special education staff at all times to support my integration. I made
use of a Perkins Braille machine in lessons - a clunky typewriter that
produces Braille dots on cardboard-like paper (see Figure 1). The
incessant noise that this machine produced had me relegated to the
back corner of classrooms away from my peers, where I sat in front of
large shelves, erected to house the numerous text and reference books
that the special educational staff had either procured or transcribed
themselves.
I was certainly accommodated to participate in mainstream classrooms
in primary school, and relished in it. Naturally, however, there was
little use in my attending class when the rest of the students were
taking a lesson on cursive; as was the custom at the time. Nor, did my
teachers believe, would there be any point in having me join in on
Italian lessons - the language that typified languages other than
english (LOVE) instruction in my primary school. Friday afternoon
sports would present untold difficulties, and grade-level school camps
would allegedly create a disconcerting maze-like burden. Implicit
lists of this nature amassed; thus I was frequently withdrawn from the
regular education field, and placed in the special educational one to
continue receiving special instruction. Rather than being included in
school-run extracurricular activities, all students with VI played
blind cricket and other VI-specific sports on Fridays. Full article
can be read at:
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/09687599.2013.844097
block quote end
block quote end
On 7/24/14, Vamshi. G <gvamsh...@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear friends,
I was fairly sighted in my school days. So, no comments about which
of the two is better. Just a thought. How about a special educator in
a main stream school who teaches disabled children the special skills
that are required to adapt to inclusiveness? All challenges faced by
the child should be reported by the teachers to this educator who can
spend time with children in the evenings and mornings to tell what
they can do to overcome them. If I'm not wrong, this concept is what
they call as integrated education. While an ideal inclusive
environment implies everyone to be sensitive to the needs of disabled,
an integrated education environment involves providing back end
support(if it can be called so) to train disabled to adapt to the
inclusive environment. As the child grows older, the need of such an
educator should become less, and at some stage, the child should
become completely independent. May be such older children can guide
their younger ones from then onwards.
On 7/24/14, bhawani shankar verma <bsvermad...@gmail.com> wrote:
i started my education in blind school and up to my 8th standard in
my
leadership we have defeated many reputed regular public schools in
various
competitions on the occasion of republic day celebration. Please note
that
music competitions are not included in the statement.
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From: "avinash shahi" <shahi88avin...@gmail.com>
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Insulted by a university teacher, blind attempted
suicide
Vidhya has provided a nuanced account of experiences in regular
school
which is intentionally underrated and avoided by proponents of
inclusive education. I hope many students can narrate similar
stories.
Friends it is time we should speak up and write real experiences so
that experiences are documented and serious discourse is initiated
with the policy-maker for policy intervention. Any idea if not
discussed and debated adequately and hastely promoted for actuation;
may lead to serious ramification. Regular schools can never make you
feel equal not because you are really not equal but just think
about
one terminology adopted by governments in their policy documents.
that is CSN equals (Children with 'special' needs. All recquirements
of a disabled child are 'special' which will always make him/her
special for pity and charity from non-special people. I hope many
more
students who are members here will share their experiences of
regular
schools. Come on friends we are more than 25 hundred people on the
list. Why only 20 to 25 share discuss and debate? language is no
barrier role your fingers and make issues visible in public domain.
On 7/24/14, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote:
Well said, vidhya.
Still we are apologetic about our experiences in special schools
because
these inclusivists have made feel obsolete in moder era of
inclusion.
I can also say similar so many good tings about my early education
in
a
blind school.
At george: yes, we have to work in the society full of sighted.
But it is mandatory for early years that foundation is laid with
confidence
and in an unhindered manner.
In the name of inclusion, we may thrust unsuspecting blind children
into
a a
situation where they themselves won't understand their blindness,
let
alone
work with confidence in the sighted world.
Howsoever we shout that we are no different, the fact remains that
we
are
different, and we must understand and deal with that different
successfully.
So, it is better to improve the quality of blind schools instead of
forcing
blind children upon unwilling and ill equipped sighted schools.
Uniformity is not the panacea.
Sighted schools also, by the way, are not heavenly for the students
even
with sight.
With thanks and regards
(Rajesh Asudani)
Assistant General Manager
Market Intelligence Unit
Reserve Bank of India
Nagpur
Tel.: 0712 2806358
(In youth you want things, and then in middle-age you want to want
them.)
-----Original Message-----
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On
Behalf
Of Vidhya Y
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 4:09 PM
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the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Insulted by a university teacher, blind attempted
suicide
Dear Friends,
I would like to Share my Personal Experience regarding Inclusive
education from Childhood.
this is just my openion.
Sorry if I am wrong.
according to me, its better if a Blind Child studies atleast
primary
school in Blind schools.
I started studying in a regular School from Standard 8.
before that, I Studied at Jyothiseva School for the blind in
Bangalore.
My Mom did not want me to go to Blind School and she would always
cry
to leave me in the Hostel because my family is very supportive.
but with all the courage she managed to leave me in that school
till
7th Grade just because I had to mingle with other children.
I would come home once a Week.
I am sure that the quality of education in blind school is far
behind
the regular School.
for example, we were taught algebra and geomatry at very basic
level
in the Blind school.
however,
I have enjoyed playing so many Games both out door and indoor with
my
Blind Friends.
I have not played any of these games except chess after I left the
school.
I still remember how we would enjoy going to picknics together.
now I dont go to college trip because I am sure that my friends
will
find it difficult to take me every where.
because I studied in a blind school,
I always thank god that I have so many sweet memories to tell my
Sighted friends even now.
I feel that sighted Children are not so comfortable playing outdoor
games with blind friends because its different from what they
play.
and also I had learnt to do my own work even sweeping, cleaning
rooms
etc.
its obvious that family members are not trained in teaching all the
work to Visually challenged.
in case of my family, I am sure I would not know a single work
because
my Mom and sisters would do it for me.
there were so many vierd students in my Blind school
who were admitted after 12 years to first grade for example,
there was a girl who did not know how to walk till the age of 12
because her parents were not aware how to teach her.
there was another girl who did not know that even she can play.
isn't it sad that a child doesn't know how to play just because
he/she
is Blind?now I can think all this but it is not possible as a child
to
think all this.
and I would also learn Bharatanatyam
in the Blind School.
now I dont feel comfortable dancing.
I stay in a town and now if people say anything about my Blindness
or
ask me some unwanted questions, I can answer them in a correct way
bravely.
but as a kid I would always cry.
then how would I manage to study in a normal school from first
grade?
I would have lost all my confidence in childhood itself.
I would top my class in Blind School so I knew that I can work
hard
even in the regular school.
in case I would have studied in a regular school from the very
beginning, because of lack of support of teachers and Friends or
lack
of study material I would not do well,
then How would I know that I can top the School?
even though the quality of education was not that great till 7th
grade,
I was able to manage and score 95% in 10th grade and also I have
done
BCA and now doing a Research project and I am will take up MS soon.
I think I was able to get through so many difficulties in regular
High
school and college because of the moral support and confidence that
I
got from Blind school.
In 8th grade as soon as I joined regular school,
I missed so much fun and then I realised that I am the only
different
student in the school and could participate only in games like
quiz
debate etc.
but I was meture enough in 8th grade to understand all that.
but before that, how would I understand all this?
thanks and regards,
Vidhya
On 7/24/14, Renuka Warriar Edakkunni <eren...@gmail.com> wrote:
100% right Preethi Mam. If we accept the the people as they are
and
the situation as it is, we can leed an inclusive life very
successfully.
Renuka.
On 7/24/14, Preeti Monga <preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in>
wrote:
How about getting non disabled people get included in our
disabled
culture
instead? This is our culture as much as it is their culture! Mind
you,
we
all come from inclusive families anyway! How do we avoid that?
Also,
children, disabled or non disabled, come crying anyway from
school
and
play
grounds! We all have to teach our children social skills, and one
of
these
social skills is; the art of accepting oneself as we are! And to
learn
to
focus on our strengths and improve upon areas where we are not so
strong.
Once our confidence is high, which again is how we build it for
our
children. I know disability is a singling out point, but the
same
type
of
discrimination is awarded to Sikh boys and men; the ones who wear
their
hair
long and a turben and beard! So is being a Sickh gentleman also
some
kind
of a disability?
This debate can go on for ever; so let us face it: this world is
made
up
of
all kinds and types of humans, we all must claim our share in it,
and
we
must make the most of all the things we have and give life our
best
shot!
Preeti
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Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 1:31 PM
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attempted
suicide
Preeti mam
humiliation is pervasive in hierarchical Indian society. It does
not
inspire me to intentially enrol my blind child in a school where
she
cries everyday and loses courage to narrate her humiliating story
at
home. I strongly believe I'm very powerful and can coexist in an
inclusive society. and I have enough cultural/social/economic
capital
that my inclusiveness will be based on my understanding of
disability.
I can not give in to the pressure imposed upon me by so called
non-disabled people that you have to behave in a certain way if
you
want to accomodated in our culture. 'Knowledge is power', It is
high
time we use power to decide and determine the norms of
inclusiveness.
Its enough that non-disabled people have overarching influence
on
disabled people lives. Off to lunch will get back later.
On 7/24/14, Preeti Monga <preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in>
wrote:
Why do we assume that people without disability do not get
humiliated
by
others? The human being enjoys humiliating another human, no
matter
how!
Probabely because humiliating someone else, especially those you
feel
insecure around, makes you feel superior and elated! Even one
blind
person
can be seen humiliating another; then what should we say? I am
not
saying
that this is a good practice, but that is how life is. As George
very
rightly said, it is a good thing to get used to tackeling harsh
realities
of
life at an early stage. Do you think that family easily gives
up
any
opportunity to humiliate another family member? Blind or not.
Yes,
the
disabled are already suffering so much that even a little
harshness
can
cause enormous pain! I agree with George that we blind cannot
live
in
isolation and ultimately we have to live in the inclusive
society.
Therefore, we need to learn the tactic of staying put in this
world
which
insidently also belongs to us as much as it does to anyone else!
Yes,
there
can be programmes where people with disabilities are trained to
learn
to
deal successfully with the harshness life keeps hurdeling at
them!
Preeti
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Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 12:47 PM
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Subject: Re: [AI] Insulted by a university teacher, blind
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suicide
Consider this Avinash: Once you get out of the education stage
of
your
life, you work and live in an inclusive environment. What about
the
humiliation people go through. Inclusion right from early days
prepares
one
to deal with the harsh realities of the World. Having said this,
there
is
a
lot of work that needs to be done in terms ground preparation of
the
inclusive education platform. It is inclusive education that
also
prepares
the non disabled population to understand , appreciate and
engage
with
disability and people with disability.
This subject again can debated.
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Sent: 24 July 2014 12:24
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Subject: [AI] Insulted by a university teacher, blind attempted
suicide
So what the proponents of Inclusive education say on this?
Psychological humiliation leaves more scars ,you know. We do not
know
how many of students go through similar experiences in colleges
and
universities? who cares about them? This teacher must be
suspended
forthwith. People in Odisha must take the matter with the
concerned
authorities. Such teachers who are incensitive to the needs of
disabled students and humiliate them the need to be delth
sternly
by
the law enforcing agencies. Do forward this to the people active
in
Odisha.
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1140724/jsp/odisha/story_18646088.jsp
Cry for suspension of Utkal faculty
OUR CORRESPONDENT
Bhubaneswar, July 23: Visually challenged students today sat on
a
protest before the disability commissioner's office here
demanding
immediate suspension of the Utkal university faculty Sujit
Acharya.
Acharya had allegedly insulted a visually impaired student, who
was
compelled him to attempt suicide.
The students squatted in front of the commissioner's office on
the
premises of Capital Hospital, where the victim Chakradhar Dash
is
admitted since Friday.
Twenty-five-year-old Chakradhar had tried to kill himself after
he
was
allegedly humiliated by Acharya in an examination hall on July
17.
Dash, a postgraduate student of history under the directorate of
distance and continuing education,had gone to the varsity to
appear
for his semester exam.
Chakradhar alleged that the faculty misbehaved with him and made
fun
of him and his scribe before the class asking him to sit near
the
toilet.
Distressed due to the insult, the student had drunk a full
bottle
of
phenyl. Friends of the boy, who found him unconscious, rushed
him
to
the Capital Hospital where he is undergoing treatment.
The student alleged that he was regularly cornered by the
faculty
of
the directorate and had to study without any books or support of
the
teachers.
"We have initiated an inquiry into the matters and will take
action
against anyone found guilty," said director Sasmit Pani
directorate
of
distance and continuing education.
Besides suspension of the teacher, the students also demanded
the
proper supply of Braille books and immediate implementation of
the
Braille transcription project announced by the government.
A vigilance inquiry must be made into why schemes such as
talking
books meant to serve hundreds of blinds children has failed to
deliver, demanded Joginder, a student.
This apart, the students appealed to the state government as to
why
the educational institutions have been continuing collection of
fee
from the disabled, despite the announcement of the government
for
a
fee waiver for such candidates.
--
Avinash Shahi
M.Phil Research Scholar
Centre for The Study of Law and Governance
Jawaharlal Nehru University
New Delhi India
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