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Topics of the day:

  1. Net-equitte
  2. Cmd [file] driven emailer ??
  3. searching for persons on the iternet (2)
  4. FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics
  5. Server named Galaxy? (2)
  6. ACCMAIL Digest - 11 Jan 1999 to 12 Jan 1999 (#1999-13) (3)
  7. Why we are losing servers...
  8. Why we are losing servers
  9. NEWS: New www4mail server

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Date:    Mon, 18 Jan 1999 00:20:28 EST
From:    William C Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Net-equitte

I would like to thank everyone who responded to my question on where
to find a discussion of Net-equitte.  I have yet to fetch the URL's.
Shortly after I sent in my request things went south and I have been
tied-up with other things, but I do thank all that responded.

William Andrews
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Date:    Sun, 17 Jan 1999 19:11:49 PST
From:    "Jerel D. Arbaugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cmd [file] driven emailer ??

>Date:    Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:49:50 +0100
>From:    "Dr. Uwe Klemm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Cmd [file] driven emailer ??
>
>Hi,
>as a spastic I'm relying on automating away those routine
>chores which Win95 has newly created to keep users happily busy.
>
>Thus, I'd like to know of something like a Win95 clone of the UNIX
>"mail" program.
>
>Specifically, I'm looking for a mailer
>- able to load prepared text files into the body window
>  (if there's no way to start it from the cmd line w/ params)
>*and*
>- accepting cmds (interspersed in the body text) for:
>reading a file, inserting its contents in body text;
>setting a subject,
>giving the signature.
>

Unrelated to some of what you say above, It looks to me like you are
looking to create one of two categories of systems.

1: A mailing list distributer, or perhaps SPAMer.

2: An auto-responder.

For 1A, see 2.  For 1B, I HATE SPAM!

For 2: mail programs are far from the same, but I have seen people using
pegasus (I think) mail program macros as an auto-responder.  These
include a form of SPAM filter, as well as auto-responder that send one of
many files, based on requests in the Subject: line.
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Date:    Mon, 18 Jan 1999 02:45:12 +0300
From:    albassam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: searching for persons on the iternet

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Hi, Accmailers,

can you please tell is there is a way to search for persons on the =
iternet through the e-mail.  we still do not have internet full access =
in our country.?

thanks in advance.

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Date:    Mon, 18 Jan 1999 06:01:31 GMT
From:    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics

FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics for Sun 17 Jan 1999, posted Mon 18 Jan, 06:00 GMT/BST

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Date:    Mon, 18 Jan 1999 07:32:24 -0500
From:    D R B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Server named Galaxy?

Does anyone know of a server named Galaxy?  If so, could someone forward
to me a way to contact them?  Thanks, DRBolduc

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Date:    Sun, 18 Jan 1998 10:21:43 +0000
From:    Daniel Aparicio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ACCMAIL Digest - 11 Jan 1999 to 12 Jan 1999 (#1999-13)

Hi
I WANT KNOW  , WHAT I CAN SEE THE PEOPLE  SUBSCRIBED?

THANK

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Date:    Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:40:45 -0800
From:    "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why we are losing servers...

>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Why we are losing servers...
>Date: Tue, 18 Jan 1983 21:56:04 +0800
>
>I do understand mr. boyd's anger about what mr. abdul jalil
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did. he shouldn't have sent those requests to
>up to 4 accmail servers simultaneously, and surely nor should he send
>them to mr. boyd. I think every accmailer has the right to point that
>out to him, seriously.
>
>but mr. abdul jalil didn't do anything wrong by accmailing for
>self-gratification, as long as he doesn't do any harm to other
>people, no matter how basic his interest appears to be. let's ask
>ourselves, should we feel ashamed if we want to retrieve a webpage
>of, say, a recipe, simply because appetite is a low-end need? (most
>psychologists would agree that it's even lower than the item mr.
>abdul jalil requested.) or should I be ashamed if I want some
>mozart's music? (it's also for self-gratification since my present
>job has got nothing to do with mozart.) one of the biggest advantages
>of internet is its free spirit and diversity. here we need more
>tolerance and less culture-related judgment, I think.
>
>yes, we do need to be sensitive about other people's feelings. when
>posting to this list, we'd better be selective when choosing
>examples. and it's unnecessary to disclose our personal interests on
>the net, as well as other people's, even we are doing some work of
>criticism. fortunately, all that I've posted here is morally and
>politically correct according to the standard of most people (devout
>Christians, Muslims, Buddhists and serious communists...), now I
>know I should continue this way, otherwise who knows what kind of
>trouble might fall on my head.
>
>again, what mr. abdul jalil did is wrong. so, don't send a request to
>more than two accmail servers simultaneously or into other people's
>personal mailbox! mr. abdul jalil! if you still can read this letter.
>
>s. li

First off I don't agree with the choice of the Usenet newsgroups,
but my real irritation was sending to multiple servers and me!

Believe it or not, some other lamer from this list copied and sent
the same request!!!
Absolutely unbelievable!!!

Secondly, many of the sysdamins at the E-mail only server sites
have "ban" lists in effect to prevent certain sites from being
accessed. So sending for this "junk" won't do any good at all. All
this is doing is causing a hardship for the rest of us as many of
the E-mail only servers disappear.


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Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Date:    Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:50:33 -0800
From:    "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ACCMAIL Digest - 11 Jan 1999 to 12 Jan 1999 (#1999-13)

At 10:21 AM 1/18/98 +0000, Daniel Aparicio wrote the following:

>I WANT KNOW  , WHAT I CAN SEE THE PEOPLE  SUBSCRIBED?

You can't. Once upon a time the members to a LISTSERV mailing list
had the ability to receive a list of subscribers. However, with the
advent of "spam" most all LISTSERV mailing lists ceased allowing
the retrieval of the subscriber list. Only the administrators of
the list can get the names and addresses. This is done to prevent
unscrupulous individuals from signing on to a mailing list, getting
a list of subscribers, and then unsubscribing from the list.


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Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Date:    Mon, 18 Jan 1999 14:01:42 -0500
From:    Stephen Benjamin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why we are losing servers

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>but mr. abdul jalil didn't do anything wrong by accmailing for
>self-gratification, as long as he doesn't do any harm to other
>people, no matter how basic his interest appears to be. let's ask
>ourselves, should we feel ashamed if we want to retrieve a webpage
>of, say, a recipe, simply because appetite is a low-end need? (most
>psychologists would agree that it's even lower than the item mr.
>abdul jalil requested.) or should I be ashamed if I want some
>mozart's music? (it's also for self-gratification since my present
>job has got nothing to do with mozart.) one of the biggest advantages
>of internet is its free spirit and diversity. here we need more
>tolerance and less culture-related judgment, I think.

I run the Web-And-Files bot ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and it is *my
choice*
what sites a user can and can't request from it.  It is the same with
every other ACCMAIL server out there.  The administrator has the
choice whether or not to allow access to such sites.  I do not. If I
see a user has requested something (1) illegal or (2) pornographic,
they are added to my ban list.  First of all, I don't want to get in
trouble if someone accesses something illegal using my bot because it
will go back to me, not them.  And I don't want people clogging my bot
with requests for pornography because it just slows everything down
for those who are using it for a real purpose -- i.e. getting some
Mozart music or a recipe from the internet.  If someone wants to look
at pornography or do illegal things, they can go pay for an ISP.

The reason that SO MANY servers are defunct is because of abuse.  If
pornography and illegal material were to completely disappear from the
internet
I would bet that there would be a lot fewer defunct servers.

>yes, we do need to be sensitive about other people's feelings. when
>posting to this list, we'd better be selective when choosing
>examples. and it's unnecessary to disclose our personal interests on
>the net, as well as other people's, even we are doing some work of
>criticism. fortunately, all that I've posted here is morally and
>politically correct according to the standard of most people (devout
>Christians, Muslims, Buddhists and serious communists...), now I
>know I should continue this way, otherwise who knows what kind of
>trouble might fall on my head.

Morals are the same everywhere -- they are not relative.  Murder is
wrong be it in China or Russia, and it is the same with pornography.

Stephen Benjamin ("Politically incorrect")
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.djcafe.com/sbenjamin/

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Date:    Mon, 18 Jan 1999 13:46:38 -0500
From:    Stephen Benjamin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ACCMAIL Digest - 11 Jan 1999 to 12 Jan 1999 (#1999-13)

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Daniel Aparicio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Monday, January 18, 1999 1:29 PM
>Subject: Re: ACCMAIL Digest - 11 Jan 1999 to 12 Jan 1999 (#1999-13)
>

>Hi
>I WANT KNOW  , WHAT I CAN SEE THE PEOPLE  SUBSCRIBED?
>
>THANK

You can't on this list.  With almost 3000 users this list would be a
good target for spam.  That's why the list of subscribers is
restricted to the owner and moderator.


Stephen Benjamin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.djcafe.com/sbenjamin/

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Date:    Mon, 18 Jan 1999 11:56:35 -0800
From:    "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Server named Galaxy?

At 07:32 AM 1/18/99 -0500, D R B wrote the following:

>Does anyone know of a server named Galaxy?  If so, could someone
forward
>to me a way to contact them?  Thanks, DRBolduc

Galaxy is provided as a free service by AHN Partners, L.P.,
America's Health
Network.
http://www.galaxy.com/
Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Galaxy Classroom - Interactive learning network
http://www.galaxy.org/

Galaxy Networks, Inc.
http://www.galaxy.net/
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

and then there are these:
http://www.galaxy-1.com/
http://www.galaxy-9.com/
http://www.stella-galaxy.com/
http://galaxy.channeli.net/
http://galaxy.cau.edu/
http://www.galaxy-condo.com/
http://galaxy.lib.ohio-state.edu/
http://galaxy.yonsei.ac.kr/
http://galaxy.nst.co.jp/
etc. etc. etc.
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Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Date:    Mon, 18 Jan 1999 12:32:34 -0800
From:    "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: searching for persons on the iternet

At 02:45 AM 1/18/99 +0300, albassam wrote the following:

>can you please tell is there is a way to search for persons on the =
>iternet through the e-mail.  we still do not have internet full
access =
>in our country.?

First off, next time you post to this list, please turn off the
HTML and/or MIME encoding.
If you don't know how to do this, then see:
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/1236/nomime.html

Your best bet is to use a Getweb or www4mail server.  Here are list
of web pages to use to search for E-mail addresses.

WhoWhere?
http://www.whowhere.lycos.com/

InfoSpace White Pages
http://in-105.infospace.com/_1_4LRUTLT037SNV9U__info/index_ppl.htm

Old Accumail, Now MSN white pages
http://in-115.infospace.com/info.msn/email1.htm

World E-mail Directory
http://www.worldemail.com/wede4a.shtml

Excite E-mail Search
http://www.excite.com/reference/email_lookup/

InfoSeek People Finder
http://infoseek.go.com/find/people_finder.html

Internet Address Finder [FRAMES]
http://www.iaf.net/

Switchboard Find a Person
http://www.switchboard.com/bin/cgiqa.dll?MEM=1

Yahoo People Search
http://people.yahoo.com/

Usenet Address Search
http://usenet-addresses.mit.edu/

I have 4 old FAQs
SwitchBoard
You can get the file by anonymous FTP at:
  get ftp.netcom.com/pub/gb/gboyd/wsboard.faq

Or by Agora, Getweb, or W3mail
  send ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/gb/gboyd/wsboard.faq

InfoSeek
You can get the file by anonymous FTP at:
  get ftp.netcom.com/pub/gb/gboyd/wsiseek.faq

Or by Agora, Getweb, or W3mail
  send ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/gb/gboyd/wsiseek.faq

InfoSpace (Accumail)
You can get the file by anonymous FTP at:
  get ftp.netcom.com/pub/gb/gboyd/wsistb.faq

Or by Agora, Getweb, or W3mail
  send ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/gb/gboyd/wsistb.faq

WhoWhere?
You can get the file by anonymous FTP at:
  get ftp.netcom.com/pub/gb/gboyd/wswho.faq

Or by Agora, Getweb, or W3mail
  send ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/gb/gboyd/wswho.faq



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Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Date:    Mon, 18 Jan 1999 12:48:09 -0800
From:    "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: NEWS: New www4mail server

Accmailers,

Great news, another www4mail server has just started in Ottawa,
Canada.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- same restrictions and help file as the
Trieste, Italy site.

I have added it to my servers listing:
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/1236/servers.html
In addition, the anonymous servers listing was checked and updated.

I also updated the ftpmail servers and ftpmail help file:
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/1236/ftphelp.html





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Gerry Boyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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