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Topics of the day:

  1. BITFTP Reply confused?
  2. Fax to email gateway
  3. y2k...
  4. Help for researches (2)
  5. Decompress .jar file! (3)
  6. FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics
  7. help ,asking for mailing-lists list (2)
  8. Zip file

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Date:    Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:42:57 PST
From:    "Jerel D. Arbaugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: BITFTP Reply confused?

>Date:    Sun, 14 Feb 1999 02:16:07 +0800
>From:    Harun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>
>I got confused answer from this ftp server. The CD or CHDIR command
always
>split w/ the directory.
>Is it because of the long of directory name given?
>
>TIA
>Aaron
>

YUP!  Some thing split the line.  The easy fix for this would be to break
it in to multiple CD commands:

>............................deleted
open ftp7.netscape.com
chdir pub/communicator/smartupdate/english
chdir windows/windows95ornt/407/navigator_sta

I suspect that there was more to this, but...

My first time on a site, I tend to do a dir at each directory level.  It
lets my know of other options on the way up, and helps when a name in
between is mis-spelled.

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Date:    Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:31:28 PST
From:    "Jerel D. Arbaugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Fax to email gateway

>Date:    Sat, 13 Feb 1999 14:21:27 +0530
>From:    "Sriram N. A." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>
>We have all come across the free email-to-fax services on the web
(primarily
>TPC.int) but here's a new twist: a free fax-to-email service!
>
>Check out http://www.efax.com/
>
>How it works:
...
>
>I wish similar services would be offered by our local ISPs :-{
>
>--
>Sriram N. A.
>
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A local BBS offers outgoing FAX, but few support incoming.  Would those
in the US be interested in a service like this on a 1900 number @
$0.50/min. or so?  Then again, the above server would be cheeper than
that.  But this could be set up to support FAX to ANY E-mail address, not
just to registered users.
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| [EMAIL PROTECTED]        Jerel.
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Date:    Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:23:18 PST
From:    "Jerel D. Arbaugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: y2k...

>Date:    Thu, 13 Feb 1997 14:20:50 +0200
>From:    "A.C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>
>HAlloo!
>REquest:
>--> Getting free(or almost) software for Y2K year problem...?Waiting...
>Warm regards,
>Alin C.
>The ComputerMan
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Try simtelnet?  Lets see if I can spot a mirror in .ro...

Romania, Timisoara ftp://ftp.dnttm.ro/pub/simtelnet/

>From there, look in the msdos directory for simdos-l.zip or simdos-i.zip
for the global index of msdos, then msdos/clocks/ has some y2k stuff.
Also see msdos/sysutil/

They also have a win95 section for windows 95 stuff.  Windows 3 should
use the DOS stuff, other than the fix available from
ftp.microsoft.com/pub/mslfiles/ (or some thing like that.)
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| [EMAIL PROTECTED]        Jerel.
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Date:    Tue, 16 Feb 1999 08:28:15 +0100
From:    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Help for researches

HI all!

I lost my HD (Many thanks to IE4...) :-(

Now, I looking to rebuild 2 years of searches by e-mail.
I lost all: now, can You help me with links and documents about
searches and methods about e-mail seearches and queries??

Excuse me in advance for my poor english, but I'm on rampage too!

Robert

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Date:    Tue, 16 Feb 1999 23:18:22 +0800
From:    Harun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Decompress .jar file!

I have already download JAR compressor, but when I used it to extract that
*.JAR file, it didn't recognised it. Also JAR readme file written the
archive extension is .J, not .JAR
BTW, the file which I am going to extract is g32e407.jar, Netscape
Navigator.

1000 thanks in advance

harun



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> From:         Uzi Paz
> Reply To:     Uzi Paz
> Sent:         Monday, February 15, 1999 1:49 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      Re: Decompress .jar file!
>
> You can download JAR (which also knows how to unjar files) from:
> http://www.arjsoftware.com/files.htm
>
> Unlike ARJ, JAR is not freeware, but there is a version that you can use
> (I don't know what is it's limitations).
>
> Uzi
>

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Date:    Tue, 16 Feb 1999 06:01:15 GMT
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Subject: FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics

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Date:    Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:46:07 +0800
From:    stickland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: help ,asking for mailing-lists list

Hello Accmail,
  Is there anybody who could tell me some ways to get
  the list of mailing-lists and introduce of it.
  thanks-a-lot


Best regards,
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Date:    Tue, 16 Feb 1999 14:11:14 -0800
From:    "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help for researches

At 08:28 AM 2/16/1999 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote the following:

>Now, I looking to rebuild 2 years of searches by e-mail.
>I lost all: now, can You help me with links and documents about
>searches and methods about e-mail seearches and queries??

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Date:    Tue, 16 Feb 1999 14:12:37 -0800
From:    "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: help ,asking for mailing-lists list

At 03:46 PM 2/15/1999 +0800, stickland wrote the following:

>  Is there anybody who could tell me some ways to get
>  the list of mailing-lists and introduce of it.

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HELP

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Date:    Tue, 16 Feb 1999 14:40:21 -0800
From:    "Gerald E. Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Decompress .jar file!

At 11:18 PM 2/16/1999 +0800, Harun wrote the following:

>I have already download JAR compressor, but when I used it to extract
that
>*.JAR file, it didn't recognised it. Also JAR readme file written the
>archive extension is .J, not .JAR
>BTW, the file which I am going to extract is g32e407.jar, Netscape
>Navigator.

Well I'm baffled by this. Pursuant to Uzi's note, I went to Robert
Jungs' site
http://www.arjsoftware.com/ and read the FAQ. See these excerpts:

What is the difference between ARJ and JAR?

We now have two archiver products to meet various compression needs.

We developed the new archiver, JAR16/JAR32, so that we could provide
state of the
art data compression with solid archiving techniques and new
compression algorithms.
These improvements could not be added to ARJ without introducing serious
compatibility issues with older releases of ARJ.

JAR16/JAR32 compresses significantly better than ARJ and PKUNZIP for
many files
and provides long filename support for both Windows 95 and Windows NT.
JAR16/JAR32 duplicates much of ARJ's powerful functionality and
provides new
original functionality, too. However, it does not duplicate ARJ and
requires more system
resources (memory and cpu power) to run.

ARJ has the advantage of a large installed base, a simple archive
format, significant
third party software support, and a long history of reliable
performance. In addition, ARJ
has many more archiver functions than other archivers including
JAR16/JAR32.

Can I use ARJ and JAR together?

ARJ and JAR can be used on the same computer; however, ARJ and JAR are not
archive compatible. They have similar commands and functions but they
cannot
process one another's archives.

What do I need to be able to run ARJ or JAR?

ARJ runs in DOS 2.11 and above and requires a minimum of 512K memory.
JAR runs
in DOS 3.0 and requires a minimum of 640K memory, or for the Windows
version, 8MB
of installed memory.

The stupid site uses frames so I can't point you to the JAR download page:

JAR 1.02 Current release for US users only (primary site)        (about
520 Kbytes)
ftp://ftp.std.com/pub/jar/jar102.exe

JAR 1.02 Current release for US users only (secondary site)
ftp://members.aol.com/arjsoftdir/files/jar102.exe

JAR 1.02 Current release for international users only (primary site)
ftp://ftp.std.com/pub/jar/jar102x.exe

JAR 1.02 Current release for international users only (secondary site)
ftp://members.aol.com/arjsoftdir/files/jar102x.exe

If anybody knows differently, I'd like to know which JAR is which?




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Date:    Wed, 17 Feb 1999 01:27:50 +0200
From:    Uzi Paz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Decompress .jar file!

> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 23:18:22 +0800
> From: Harun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> I have already download JAR compressor, but when I used it to extract that
> *.JAR file, it didn't recognised it. Also JAR readme file written the
> archive extension is .J, not .JAR
> BTW, the file which I am going to extract is g32e407.jar, Netscape
> Navigator.

It seems that there are two different things that are called JAR.
One of them is the JAR software that uses a format which is called JAR
format, and has the extension ".j" (something that I learned only now
from Aaron (Harun) ), and another format that is for Java archives
and has the extension .jar , I still cannot say for sure how you can
decompress and open such .jar archive.

In the meanwhile, after Gerry and I responded to your first question in
this thread, we had some private correspondence about the subject.

Some text that I got during this correspondence said the following:

>Jar was invented a few years ago by the author of ARJ (Robert Jung) as a
>more efficient archiver/compressor, and he then said that the name meant
>that this is like arj but different. Arj was invented before Java
>applets.

 Summary: JAR files are packaged with the ZIP file format,
 so you can use them for "ZIP-like" tasks such as lossless
 data compression, archiving, decompression, and archive
 unpacking. To perform basic tasks with JAR files, you use
 the JavaTM Archive Tool provided as part of the Java
 Development Kit. Because the Java Archive tool is invoked
 by using the jar command, for convenience we'll call it the

This text although not too clear, suggests that the format is compatible
with ZIP.

My suggestion for you is to try to use simple unzip utility.

For your consideration: many unzip utilities require that the file will
have the extension ".zip" so you might want to rename your file before
trying.

Uzi

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Date:    Wed, 17 Feb 1999 05:57:52 +0700
From:    Andi Siregar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Zip file

     Hi guys,

     Can anyone help me with this?

     I asked a zip file from web, and the reply note said  that the file
     has been uuencoded. How can I decode this file?
     BTW, I am using cc.mail.

     thanks

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