There are 12 messages totalling 530 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Email Headers 2. how i can get page with frames? 3. PROBLEM WITH FTP.SIMTEL.NET 4. FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics 5. Findinig fast the right file. 6. file Getweb.exe in accmail digetst!! 7. yahoo search with www4mail 8. how to get Hotmail account 9. What are Fetch Services? 10. decoding url reference (2) 11. ??FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics?? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ACCMAIL Info (automatically generated) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To UNSUBscribe: Send UNSUBSCRIBE ACCMAIL to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To get the ACCMAIL FAQ: Send e-mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" and enter only this line in the BODY of the note: send usenet/news.answers/internet-services/access-via-email ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 22:24:57 PST From: "Jerel D. Arbaugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Email Headers }Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 19:00:26 -0500 }From: Ken Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> } }Can someone break down email headers and explain the header info? } }Later On }Kenstone } }------------------------------ Start with RFC-2076, then look at the ones that it references. There should be an updated version out by now, with a new number, but this is a start. -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jerel. --- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 22:45:42 PST From: "Jerel D. Arbaugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: how i can get page with frames? }Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 11:32:43 +0200 }From: Vlad Vork <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> } }Hi. } } What server may send page (or text from page) contain frames? } }(Or it's impossible?) } }Thanks. [EMAIL PROTECTED] } }------------------------------ As it says in one or more of the FAQ's: 1: Get the page source. 2: Convert the URL's in the FRAME tags in the FRAMESET section to full URL's 3: Get those. -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jerel. --- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 22:41:55 PST From: "Jerel D. Arbaugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: PROBLEM WITH FTP.SIMTEL.NET }Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 08:42:12 +0100 }From: Ilir DEMA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> } }Hello, } }I've tried several days to download something from ftp.simtel.net through }different ftpmail services and today directly online, but I got this }response : "The limit of 3600 users has been reached. Please try ten minuts }latter". I tried and retried but no success. }Does anybody knows smoething about this server ? } It is saying that it is overloaded. Try a mirror: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Simtel Info) Subject: List of Simtel.Net authorized mirror sites (revised 19980815) Keywords: simtel,msdos,win3,win95,win98,freeware,shareware,archive Simtel.Net is Keith Petersen's worldwide distribution network for Shareware, Freeware, and Public Domain programs for MS-DOS, Windows 3.x, and Windows 95/98. ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/ is the primary distribution site for these collections. FTP.Simtel.Net is actually several ftp sites arranged in a rotating pattern of IP addresses to help balance the load and to avoid access problems due to network outages and simultaneous user limits. At the present time ftp.cdrom.com, ftp.ou.edu and oak.oakland.edu are the primary sites. Our files are located in the /pub/simtelnet directory tree on these hosts. The following sites are authorized mirrors of Simtel.Net as of the time of this posting. This list will be updated as new sites are added. 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Keith Petersen, General Manager of Simtel(tm) Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.simtel.net/simtel.net/ Uucp: uunet!simtel.net!w8sdz ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 06:01:07 GMT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics for Fri 5 Mar 1999, posted Sat 6 Mar, 06:00 GMT/BST Less than 1 hour [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1-4 hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4-10 hours None More than 10 hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] Response within 4 hours in at least 5 out of 7 recent tests [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] This data is generated automatically around 0600 GMT/BST most days. The performance reported is dependant on many factors and your experience may vary. You can also access this list: On the Web at http://www.netservs.com/mrcool/stats.htm By FTP at ftp://ftp.cix.co.uk/pub/net-services/stats.txt Mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and say "get file stats.txt" (no quotes) Want this list every day? Send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and in the body of your message put "join statistics" (no quotes) No liability is accepted for inaccuracies. Mirroring, links to and copying of this entire file (not extracts) is permitted until further notice. Slow downloads? Try Mr. Cool! See http://www.netservs.com/mrcool/ Copyright Net Services 1999. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 02:00:08 -0000 From: lcs Mixmaster Remailer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Findinig fast the right file. Dear AccMailers: INTRODUCTION Usually I save ACCMAIL postings as text files. When I look for some information that is contained in one of that files I work with the built-in file-finder of my Win95 Explorer. This file-finder shows a field in which the string of one's interest must be typed. THE QUESTION Does anybody knows a text file-finder program able to search for two strings? Not just one. THE IDEAL PROGRAM Free, email-only available, very small and easy to use. Thanks. Dogberry ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 15:39:47 +0800 From: Harun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: file Getweb.exe in accmail digetst!! I received a executable file, getweb.exe, in accmail digest 4-5 March. Could anybody tell me what file is this? Bang Aar ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1983 17:33:02 +0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: yahoo search with www4mail mr. boyd's "getit4u" teaches us how to carry out the yahoo search using the japanese agora server: TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED] send http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=xxxxx+yyyyy+zzzzz his instruction is very helpful, only that agora is quite busy these days. I've tried to send the same requests to the italian www4mail server and the canadian one, and glad to see that they worked as well. since the www4mail servers react much faster than agora, I suggest we all make use of them. besides the "send" command, we also can use the "tsource" command here, it will return *.htm files. I know, some of us do prefer to read .htm files with a web browser (I am one of them). s. li 3-6-99 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 21:02:18 +0800 From: Maidong Hu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: how to get Hotmail account Hi,all, A Problem:how can I get my Hotmail account's letters by email? I have an account at Hotmail.com but now I can not access WWW for some reason.I ever want to get http://hotmail.com through [EMAIL PROTECTED] ,but I have received no response.Why? 我有一个Hotmail.com帐号,但现在我一时 法 网出国,请问怎 用email收我在Hotmail.com 的信。 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 13:19:38 -0600 From: MAE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: What are Fetch Services? Hi, How are these services used? I am looking for a FREE service that will scour the internet for various topics and send the results to me via email. Know of any such services? Are these considered fetch services? Thanks, MAE ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 21:59:42 +0200 From: "Lena [Kiev.Ukraine]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: decoding url reference > Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 12:37:37 -0500 > From: dilip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Getweb returned the following ref for the > file I need via email: > > [12] file:////dfscs1/dfsc-do/B/web/qpl25017.max > I am unable to get this file by email Nobody is able to get this file, not only accmailers. It's error of page's author, most probably result of careless use of a carelessly written HTML editor. When the author checks the page on own HDD, it works. After uploading to web-server this link ceases to work. So "thank" sloppy authors: of editor and of page. > How do I open the file with the "max" > extension ? The author could use extension field as continuation of filename, i.e. "max" here may not mean exact format of file's content. It's especially probable if page's author uses DOS or Windows 3 (because of their 8+3 limit of filename's length). ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 03:03:53 +0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ??FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics?? Hi I'm a email only user. I find the "FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics" very very useful. I get the statistics with the ACCMAIL posts as well as from subscribing to the performance report. Don't mind getting two of the same, helps if one gets lost or delayed, and it happens quite frequently(I'm sure the delays and deletes happens from this end at my ISP). I like to suggest that it have a SUBJECT line with the date of Statistic. Instead of " FTPMail, Agora, etc. statistics" Something like . . . Mail2Web Statistics for Fri 5 Mar 1999, posted Sat 6 Mar, 06:00 GMT/BST Mail2Web Statistics posted Sat 6 Mar, 06:00 GMT/BST Statistics for Fri 5 Mar 1999 This would make it easier to identify the newest edition of a copy in a mailbox folder. Even if its filtered to a Mbox it would make sense. Must confess that I'm not sure if this is a easy thing to get the software to do this. Sen Constantine. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 02:32:33 +0530 From: "Sriram N. A." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: decoding url reference dilip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Getweb returned the following ref for the >file I need via email: > >[12] file:////dfscs1/dfsc-do/B/web/qpl25017.max > > I got an error msg when I sent for this. > > I am unable to get this file by email unless I know >the first part of the url.What should I enter ? A good guess would be that the URL indicated is relative to the one you fetched with Getweb; try merging the two addresses if you haven't done so. (There may be a '..' hiding there somewhere) > > How do I open the file with the "max" >extension ? Mucking about with the links to/from the web page (if that's what you fetched) should give you a clue on what type of file it is. There were some discussions a while ago on this list about file name extensions and reference sources for the same - you could search the archives for them. To start you off with listserv commands, you could send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] <--(where ACCMAIL is hosted) Subject: HELP Body: Help which should guide you on how to proceed. A couple of other things you could try - Search the Altavista engine using a link:URL search to find pages which link to your resource. Troll a search engine for the strings "*.max" and "file extension". Email methods are in the FAQ. Or perhaps search for other references to the file in question. Or use the ftp search engine for other files with the same extension. The point I'm trying to make is, in most cases a little common sense and a bit of digging will go a long way. I have found quests of the sort you face more of an interesting challenge - better than any puzzle! In this way, if you are in the accmailing business for any length of time, you will eventually develop a set of templates for what looks a daunting task at first. Do get back to the list with the results from attacking your problem! -- Sriram N. A. ------------------------------ End of ACCMAIL Digest - 5 Mar 1999 to 6 Mar 1999 (#1999-66) ***********************************************************