Great ! Finally, we know what is the source of problem ! Thanks to all helped, specially to Ramiro that founds the cause.... Is good to know that is not a www4mail problem, but a remote server problem. (this case, casema.nl) and strictly speaking, as the test demostrates, the program's source that need fix for properly manage these incongruences in file type/context type is the Lynx, not www4mail ....
The files involved not very important, but definitely this problem intrigued me very much as first time.... Finally, again THANKS for the support, and for maintain this server (I believe this is the only www4mail still alive..... in a world that commonly ignores poor countries/people that not has full internet access) Best regards, Damian. On 9/19/08, ACCMAIL automatic digest system <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There are 4 messages totalling 333 lines in this issue. > > Topics of the day: > > 1. ACCMAIL Digest - 9 Sep 2008 to 16 Sep 2008 (#2008-57) > 2. Problem retrieving files with www4mail (3) > > I think that a test can be done.... for what I could have seen, the > www4mail uses the lynx browser, it must be installed in server ... > maybe this is a lynx problem? > > A test would be try to download problematic file directly from the web > using lynx and seeing what happens. > simple, but I can't do it ... I don't have full internet.... > > Only an idea ... > > > On 9/17/08, Damian V.B. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am willing to collaborate in whatever it is to find the cause of > > this strange problem. > > Unfortunately I do not have any experience on perl, I have seen the > > sources and the code is really complex ... > > > > > > > > On 9/17/08, ACCMAIL automatic digest system <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > There are 4 messages totalling 193 lines in this issue. > > > > > > Topics of the day: > > > > > > 1. ACCMAIL Digest - 7 Sep 2008 to 9 Sep 2008 (#2008-56) > > > 2. Problem retrieving files with www4mail (3) > > > > > > Hello, > > > well, a lot of files ultimately I tried to download, cause this > > > problem... (I worried about this) > > > For example, try this url... is a small file (is the language > > > translations file for the very good and free playstation 2 media > > > player) > > > > > > http://home.casema.nl/eugene_plotnikov/SMS_lng.rar > > > > > > oh, and I have tested with XUUENCODE and same result. > > > The file always returns with " .asc " > > > > > > Thanks so much for the support !! .... > > > > > > On 9/10/08, ACCMAIL automatic digest system <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > There are 2 messages totalling 54 lines in this issue. > > > > > > > > Topics of the day: > > > > > > > > 1. Problem retrieving files with www4mail (2) > > > > > > > > Hello Damian : > > > > > > > > On 7 Sep 2008 at 9:53, Damian V.B. wrote: > > > > > Hello, I have this problem with www4mail. While trying to download > > > > > some specific files, the server return the file, but with appended > > > > > extension ".ASC" (ascii?) and the content is corrupted by CR's and > > > > > LF's ....I have been using www4mail services for years, and sometimes > > > > > this problem happen..... > > > > > I think the problem is that the server by some strange cause treats > > > > > binary file like ascii files... if any knows any solution, please ! > > > > > also, I want to thank so much to all that supports this service... > > > > > > > > Can you give us an example? > > > > The URL of a file which causes this to happen? > > > > > > > > > > > > ::: SZS ::: > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To contribute to the discussion, email to accmail@listserv.aol.com > > > > To unsubscribe, email to the *admin* address [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > with UNSUBSCRIBE ACCMAIL as the message body. > > > > WWW: http://emailonly.szs.net/ > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > I think the problem is that the server by some strange cause treats > > > > > binary file like ascii files... if any knows any solution, please ! > > > > > > > > Use XUUENCODE command. > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To contribute to the discussion, email to accmail@listserv.aol.com > > > > To unsubscribe, email to the *admin* address [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > with UNSUBSCRIBE ACCMAIL as the message body. > > > > WWW: http://emailonly.szs.net/ > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To contribute to the discussion, email to accmail@listserv.aol.com > > > To unsubscribe, email to the *admin* address [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > with UNSUBSCRIBE ACCMAIL as the message body. > > > WWW: http://emailonly.szs.net/ > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > On 16 Sep 2008 at 8:11, Damian V.B. wrote: > > > > well, a lot of files ultimately I tried to download, cause this > > > > problem... (I worried about this) > > > > For example, try this url... > > > > http://home.casema.nl/eugene_plotnikov/SMS_lng.rar > > > > The file always returns with " .asc " > > > > > > Damian is right about this! > > > I have never noticed this before. > > > Is it only '.rar' files that cause this problem? > > > > > > I have had a quick look at the Perl source code and > > > configuration files, and have found no clues. The > > > string '.asc' does not appear anywhere! I guess the > > > cause might be outside the www4mail script -- perhaps > > > an operating system side-effect (the OS is Debian). > > > > > > I have given this problem top priority for a fix, but > > > I cannot say when that fix might happen. Sun Zoom > > > Spark is *very* busy right now! > > > > > > Does anyone else have any ideas? > > > Any Linux specialists on board? > > > > > > ::: SZS ::: > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To contribute to the discussion, email to accmail@listserv.aol.com > > > To unsubscribe, email to the *admin* address [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > with UNSUBSCRIBE ACCMAIL as the message body. > > > WWW: http://emailonly.szs.net/ > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 12:59:07PM +0100, sun zoom spark wrote: > > > > > http://home.casema.nl/eugene_plotnikov/SMS_lng.rar > > > > > The file always returns with " .asc " > > > ... > > > > Does anyone else have any ideas? > > > > Any Linux specialists on board? > > > > > > Certainly not a specialist, but I used to do quite a bit of Perl on > > > Linux a couple of years ago. So if you send me the code, or a pointer > > > to it in an easily accessible location, I might have a look at it. No > > > promises, though! > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Albert. > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To contribute to the discussion, email to accmail@listserv.aol.com > > > To unsubscribe, email to the *admin* address [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > with UNSUBSCRIBE ACCMAIL as the message body. > > > WWW: http://emailonly.szs.net/ > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > On 16 Sep 2008 at 14:26, Albert Reiner wrote: > > > > Certainly not a specialist, but I used to do quite a bit of Perl on > > > > Linux a couple of years ago. So if you send me the code, or a pointer > > > > to it in an easily accessible location, I might have a look at it. No > > > > promises, though! > > > > > > Thanks Albert! > > > > > > I have sent Albert an URL for the zipped Perl > > > source used by www4mail`at`szs.net. > > > > > > If anyone else would like to test themselves > > > against this complex and undocumented code, > > > please email me off-list. > > > > > > Be warned -- > > > * there are 1181 files in the system; > > > * you have no chance of understanding it > > > unless you have programmed professionally > > > in Perl or a similar language. > > > > > > However, it is possible that the cause of this > > > problem does not lie in the code, but in the > > > interaction between the code and the Debian OS. > > > > > > > > > ::: SZS ::: > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To contribute to the discussion, email to accmail@listserv.aol.com > > > To unsubscribe, email to the *admin* address [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > with UNSUBSCRIBE ACCMAIL as the message body. > > > WWW: http://emailonly.szs.net/ > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > To contribute to the discussion, email to accmail@listserv.aol.com > To unsubscribe, email to the *admin* address [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with UNSUBSCRIBE ACCMAIL as the message body. > WWW: http://emailonly.szs.net/ > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > On 16 Sep 2008 at 8:11, Damian V.B. wrote: > > well, a lot of files ultimately I tried to download, cause this > > problem... (I worried about this) For example, try this url... > > http://home.casema.nl/eugene_plotnikov/SMS_lng.rar > > The file always returns with " .asc " > > The cause of the problem is in Content-type returned by the remote > server. Any file which returns the "text" word in content-type is > treated as an ascii file. I noticed the same problem by "any" type of > e-mail server (old gopher, agora etc.) > > I don't know what content-type this file returns, so I can't say how > hard a patch could be. May be an impossible change in many files or a > simple change in a regular expression. > > Greetings > > Ramiro > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > To contribute to the discussion, email to accmail@listserv.aol.com > To unsubscribe, email to the *admin* address [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with UNSUBSCRIBE ACCMAIL as the message body. > WWW: http://emailonly.szs.net/ > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > On 18 Sep 2008 at 10:53, Ramiro Ochoa wrote: > > The cause of the problem is in Content-type returned by the remote > > server. Any file which returns the "text" word in content-type is > > treated as an ascii file. I noticed the same problem by "any" type of > > e-mail server (old gopher, agora etc.) > > Thanks Ramiro -- great detection work! > The content-type should be application/x-rar-compressed > Other sites serving .rar files get it right, and there is > no problem. > > > > I don't know what content-type this file returns, so I can't say how > > hard a patch could be. May be an impossible change in many files or a > > simple change in a regular expression. > > I don't think there is anything else to be done. > We can't anticipate errors in the server headers. > > Perhaps not *very* difficult to modify the www4mail > code to intercept and act on probable mismatches > between the content-type header and the actual file > received -- but nobody at szs.net has the time to > do it. Testing would take longer than writing the > patch. > > Perhaps we should just warn users that if the remote > servers are not configured correctly, the result > returned by www4mail is unpredictable. > > In the meantime, the case is closed. > No further action -- the problem is at casema.nl > > ::: SZS ::: > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > To contribute to the discussion, email to accmail@listserv.aol.com > To unsubscribe, email to the *admin* address [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with UNSUBSCRIBE ACCMAIL as the message body. > WWW: http://emailonly.szs.net/ > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > On 18 Sep 2008 at 4:11, Damian V.B. wrote: > > I think that a test can be done.... for what I could have seen, the > > www4mail uses the lynx browser, it must be installed in server ... > > maybe this is a lynx problem? > > Lynx is involved, but it is not a Lynx problem. > Ramiro Ochoa has discovered what happened ... > * The server at casema.nl uses an incorrect content-type header, > effectively telling Lynx that the content which follows is a text > file. > * Lynx accepts the incorrect information, and treats the subsequent > content as text. > > > A test would be try to download problematic file directly from the web > > using lynx and seeing what happens. > > simple, but I can't do it ... I don't have full internet.... > > Only an idea ... > > But a good idea! > A Lynx test confirms your suspicions and Ramiro's theory. > > If you need those files, I suggest you contact the people at > casema.nl and ask them to fix their content-type headers. > They will not be offended! > > ::: SZS ::: > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > To contribute to the discussion, email to accmail@listserv.aol.com > To unsubscribe, email to the *admin* address [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with UNSUBSCRIBE ACCMAIL as the message body. > WWW: http://emailonly.szs.net/ > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To contribute to the discussion, email to accmail@listserv.aol.com To unsubscribe, email to the *admin* address [EMAIL PROTECTED] with UNSUBSCRIBE ACCMAIL as the message body. 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