I would consider the randomwalk (and other tests in that suite) just an 
acceptance test suite. I think it is awesome that we have it as it is great for 
_really_ making sure the system is solid.

However, frameworks are more about providing a platform which is then built on 
by others to enable functionality (kinda like a library). Frameworks provide a 
way to think about problems and then some tools to enable you to solve them. So 
a mocking framework gives you a way to think about solving the problem of 
effectively unit testing and gives you mocks to help enable to solve the 
problem of unit testing.

Just a nitpick, but the terminology can be important especially when things 
(like the testing) are in flux.

- Jesse Yates

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On Nov 12, 2011, at 11:00 AM, John W Vines <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> | From: "Set Cruz" <[email protected]>
> | To: [email protected]
> | Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 1:21:33 PM
> | Subject: (ACCUMULO-75) Modify Security Randomwalk and test with concurrency
> | >Keith Turner commented on ACCUMULO-75:
> | 
> | >--------------------------------------
> | 
> | 
> | 
> | >Below is where you can find the scripts and XML files needed to run
> | >it.
> | 
> | 
> | 
> | >
> | 
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/accumulo/trunk/test/system/randomwalk/
> | 
> | 
> | 
> | >The source code is at the following link.
> | 
> | 
> | 
> | >
> | 
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/accumulo/trunk/src/server/src/main/java/org/apache/accumulo/server/test/randomwalk/
> | 
> | 
> | >If you have more questions, we would be happy to answer them on the
> | mailing list.
> | 
> | Thank you.
> | 
> | I read the "test" issues on JIRA. Some refer to mock frameworks. I was
> | wondering if randomwalk was also such a test framework. I haven't read
> | the
> | code in the links above yet. If randomwalk is indeed a test framework,
> | is
> | there a link where I can read more about it? I haven't done a web
> | search
> | on randomwalk yet.
> | 
> | --Set
> 
> Randomwalk is one of our test frameworks. I don't know if it's a common 
> testing framework in general, but we have a 'from scratch' implementation we 
> use, which can be found in the test package under the server module. We don't 
> really have documentation for it, but I like to think it's really simple. It 
> just reads the XML file and loads appropriate nodes which are implemented for 
> the tests, and then randomly selects a weighted edge to transition to a 
> different node.
> 
> Hope that helps.
> John

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