Hi Paul,

My understanding from reading the draft text was that the "cost" was actually 
talking about "energy cost" rather than "monetary cost".
The monetary cost may also be interesting.

It is difficult to judge the extra cost of a RNG in an MCU because
(a) you rarely find an MCU with and without MCU (keeping all other features the 
same),
(b) even if you find one there are other factors that impact the cost (such as 
popularity of a particular MCU),
(c) RNG features are often provided with other features (such as SHA256 and AES 
in hardware), and
(d) cost and price of an MCU are different aspects.

Ciao
Hannes

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Duffy <padu...@cisco.com>
Sent: Dienstag, 14. Mai 2019 15:08
To: Hannes Tschofenig <hannes.tschofe...@arm.com>; ace@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Ace] EST over CoAP: Randomness


On 5/9/2019 10:42 AM, Hannes Tschofenig wrote:
> I believe we should encourage developers to pick the correct hardware for the 
> task rather than making them believe we have come up with solutions that 
> allow them to get away without a hardware-based RNG.
>
> I also do not believe the statement that random number key generation is 
> costly. Can you give me some number?

Strong agreement.  The added cost for hw based RNG is ever decreasing. Last 
time I checked it was on the order of 50 cents @ Q 10k?  It has likely fallen 
since.  Confirm with Atmel etc.

Cheers


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