On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 1:06 PM, Jacob Hoffman-Andrews <j...@eff.org> wrote:
> Hi all, > > I've been putting off this conversation because it is doomed to become a > bikeshed, but I am proposing to rename Applications to Orders. > > So, I have to thoroughly agree that this is a bikeshed. > The reason: ACME is intended, among other things, to simplify the > certificate issuance and deployment process. That includes being > accessible to people who don't have a lot of time to learn about the > internals of ACME. Are you thinking of implementers or folks using ACME to get a certificate? The term "application" is heavily overloaded, and > users might mistake it for the software used to access ACME. So saying > "what is the URL for your application," for instance, could mean > https://certbot.eff.org/ OR > https://acme-v01.api.letsencrypt.org/application/123. > > It is overloaded, but the document is pretty good about saying "application for a certificate" or "application for issuance". But those phrases are really intended to be consumed by implementers. I don't think you have to reuse that term in your user-facing documentation, and localization will require taking up that problem in any case. > I think "order" both captures the spirit intended by the new flow, and > matches existing terminology at a lot of CAs. It has some homonyms, as > in "order of operations," but I think those have low enough likelihood > of confusion that it's okay. > > Pretty much any useful string in this space is going to be overloaded. "The orders" might the applications/requisitions, for example, or the set of steps required to meet a challenge. You might find a better balance, but it would always be a balance. I've not got any major objection to the change, in other words, but I don't see much of a benefit. Since I'm hoping we finish soon, re-painting the bikeshed doesn't strike me as a good use of our energy. As an individual, not chair, Ted > _______________________________________________ > Acme mailing list > Acme@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/acme >
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