Having discussed HiCA with some friends it seems they're being very naughty
indeed and abusing what appears to be an RCE in ACME.sh to get their
validation done?! https://github.com/acmesh-official/acme.sh/issues/4659
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On Fri, 9 Jun 2023 at 09:55, Q Misell <q...@as207960.net> wrote:

> Hi Amir,
>
> TIL about HiCA. They do seem like a weird bunch!
>
> I note they only allow ACME.sh as an ACME client and forbid every other
> client in their EULA (
> https://www1.hi.cn/en/docs/getting-started/acme.sh-installation). They
> also have some interesting ideas about patents surrounding ACME (
> https://www1.hi.cn/en/docs/tutorial-expert/challenge/challenge-types-dns-or-http).
> I can also find no mention in their docs of how they support ".onion"
> domains, and absolutely no reference to the CSR method. I will have to have
> a poke at their ACME server to see how they implement it, but I don't
> expect any revolutionary ideas.
>
> Thanks,
> Q
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> On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 at 21:26, Amir Omidi <amir=40aaomidi....@dmarc.ietf.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Wrong URL, apologies:
>> https://www1.hi.cn/hica-vs-letsencrypt/
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 8, 2023 at 15:08 Amir Omidi <aaomidi=
>> 40google....@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I support the draft as it is for adoption. I’m also curious if
>>> https://www.hi.cn/hica-vs-letsencrypt/ is potentially using the draft
>>> as well for their onion support?
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 4, 2023 at 08:07 Stephen Farrell <stephen.farr...@cs.tcd.ie>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hiya,
>>>>
>>>> On 04/06/2023 12:06, Deb Cooley wrote:
>>>> >   This will be a two week call for adoption ending on 16 June.
>>>>  Please
>>>> > speak up either for or against adopting this draft.
>>>>
>>>> I had a read of the draft. I support adoption.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure I understand the security of the challenge
>>>> schemes sufficiently from reading the draft, but that's
>>>> something that can be addressed as the WG works on it.
>>>>
>>>> To be clear: I'm not asking that the draft fully set out
>>>> why these challenge types are (or are not, for dns-01)
>>>> secure, but I reckon it's important the WG satisfy itself
>>>> about that as the work proceeds, given that have been
>>>> subtle issues with challenges in the past.
>>>>
>>>> There're also some terminology things to get right, e.g.
>>>> that .onion is not a TLD but a special-use domain name.
>>>> (SUDNs are controversial enough things that it'll be
>>>> worth trying to get that text to where it irritates
>>>> the smallest number of people possible, even if that'll
>>>> never be zero:-)
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> S.
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks,
>>>> > Deb
>>>> >
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