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On 9/24/25, 2:14 AM, "Laurence Lundblade" <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

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> My only problem with the nomenclature for acme-device-attest is that it will
> attract people looking for remote attestation, and fail to attract people who
> want device authentication.
> 
> Abstract says:
> } This document specifies new identifiers and a challenge for the
> } Automated Certificate Management Environment (ACME) protocol which
> } allows validating the identity of a device using attestation.
> 
> and a clue should be the lack of the word **remote** before attestation.
> It's authentication, or even authorization, but not attestation.


I can’t tell where acme-device-attest is coming from / going to yet. They do 
seem to be deconstructing WebAuthN to get the attestation part out.

I don’t like the total lack of discussion of attestation key material.

[CW] I don't think I'd say there is a " total lack of discussion of attestation 
key material." It's just incorporated by reference. WebAuthn does cover 
attestation keys, albeit maybe not to the depth you'd like to see.

I don’t know why they aren’t using EAT, or at least allowing it. It seems some 
of the fields they are defining might overlap with EAT.

[CW] Re: why, I'd guess timeline and fielded support (but don't know). Re: "why 
aren't they allowing EAT", is there anything preventing someone from 
registering EAT as a "defined attestation statement format" per RFC 8809?

Seems like they should do a lot more work to explain themselves (to us).

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