Wednesday, April 15, 2015 at 7:49:14 PM Hi Brad,
> [VM] It would be the only one and wouldn't be competing with other VMs. Aha. That might work reasonably well. Basically you're using the VM as an emulation environment, right? If there isn't anything else running/competing for resources in the VM, chances are it'll work OK. But be sure to test, and run a load stress test on it. One person who know Linux extremely well is Rick Hazey ([email protected]); he's also done some pretty impressive Active4D stuff in the past. I wouldn't hesitate to contact him with any questions you might have; tell him I sent you (so he can cuss me out for piling additional work on him... :-). Again, good luck--hope this works. And report back on your experiences--always good to see what works/doesn't. Cheers! Michael ------------------- On Apr 15, 2015, at 7:30 PM, Perkins, Bradley D <[email protected]> wrote: > Michael, > > Responses below. Still interested to hear if others have experience good > or bad. > >> Wednesday, April 15, 2015 at 6:29:12 PM >> >> Hi Brad, >> >>> I have some concerns about running Mac Minis 24/7/365 as web servers >> >> I've got a client using this setup; works like a charm. No down time at >> all (although their site is not heavily used). Am very, very, very happy >> with it; support is a dream. (Support? I think in 3 years I had one call, >> when they shut down the network for some reason and it went offline.) The >> office folks where it's at are not sophisticated users, and they have no >> problem doing any admin tasks using remote software. > > That is good to hear. I have one mini running 24/7 that handles various > jobs and monitors remote servers. It stays busy. It occasionally becomes > unresponsive. I should probably just schedule a monthly reboot. The only > times I reboot my Xserves are when a security update requires it. I have > to reboot our Windows 4D DB servers far more often than the Macs. FWIW, > our Windows server hardware would be in spec with what Jonoke recommends.CM > >> >>> Has anyone deployed Active4D running where 4D is running under a >>> Windows OS virtual machine? >> >> I have another client with this setup, and it's nothing but a nightmare. >> <rest snipped> >> >> If you value your sanity, stay far, far away from this setup (again, >> unless you've got God or one of his assistants sitting in front of the >> machine and who will cheerfully step in and perform miracles when >> required). Sure, IT loves VMs, because (in theory) its cheaper and easier >> for them to manage; unfortunately, IT often doesn't care too much if the >> software running on the machine doesn't perform optimally. (In your best >> Brooklyn accent, "it's running--waddya want anyway?") (Yes, I know part >> of the problem is also political; unfortunately, if you find yourself in >> this situation, problems are only compounded.) >> >> In your case, if you're running Apache as the front end, perhaps you'll >> be able to avoid these issues (assuming it's not running in the VM, >> correct?). Don't know; you'll need to test. > > Apache would be running under Linux on the server. I'd considered doing > this in a Virtual Environment at AWS or could host it myself. My > experience running non-4D web applications at AWS has been very good. I > don't admin the VMs, but the folks that do have not had bad experiences. > We've had one major AWS outage in 2+ years. We've had to restart Apache a > few times in that period. > > If I ran the Linux server, 4D/Active4D would need to run under Windows in > a VM on that server. The VM would be on the same box. It would be the only > one and wouldn't be competing with other VMs. > > Thanks for sharing your experience though. Maybe 4D doesn't run well in a > VM. > >> >> >> There's a good article by Jonoke on server hardware: >> >> http://www.jonoke.com/jonokemed/DatabaseServer.pdf >> >> Skip to the last page, last line. You'll see their words of wisdom. (All >> caps if you happen to miss it. :-) And they certainly know 4D and the >> best setup for running it. >> >> Good luck; hope my live and burn warning saves you some hair on your >> head... > > Thanks, > > Brad _______________________________________________ Active4D-dev mailing list [email protected] http://list.aparajitaworld.com/listinfo/active4d-dev Archives: http://active4d-nabble.aparajitaworld.com/
