Do you have any specific info on the future versions that may allow removal
of schema extensions?  We are starting a discussion on a schema change
policy and this would be very timly info.

Diane

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This is a good list.  The only modification I'd make to it is that ALL
schema changes are permanent.  There is currently no way to remove anything
from the Schema.  In future versions, yes.  But not at present.

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-----Original Message-----
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Here are the points we used  Had to copy to this e mail  Was in PowerPoint
format. This is for using separate forests (User accounts in one forest,
resources in separate forests)  There may be some things that have been left
out.

Pros

Public Key Infrastructure
  Auto enrollment
  Single source for certificates
  Essential in secure e-commerce transactions between businesses
  Certificate Revocation List (CRL)
Lower cost to support and maintain a single forest
  Case Studies and Gartner Report 
  Indicate averages of 17% reduction in TCO
  $300-$600 per desktop savings in administration costs per year
Common Schema
  Definition and extensibility of object classes are maintained centrally
  by committee  
  Reduces risk of catastrophic failure, since group administrative
  membership for modifying the schema is smaller (some schema changes are
  permanent)  
Management of objects within an OU are easier to maintain and administer in
  a single forest
  Business Unit Administrators still maintain control of resources 
Common userid with permissions to multiple objects
  Supports single sign on from anywhere in the forest
Easier search capabilities in AD
Promotes single, one company view of the enterprise
Increased collaboration thru a common global catalog
  Lower costs of performing audits to validate that separate forests are
  following corporate policies
  Less complex and more efficient use of bandwidth for replication and
  synchronization across the enterprise
  Allows common visible distribution lists, meeting requests, calendaring,
  instant messaging, presence notification, and a shared community of user
  throughout the forest
Easier to find users and resources throughout the organization in a single
forest (The AD Structure is transparent to user) 
Information and processes are consolidated
Terminal Server management tools only recognize one forest
  Lower admin costs
Distribution of administration is easier to delegate
  OU's are the new units of administration
  Local and centralized
  

Cons

Separate Exchange Organizations
Increased network traffic
Complicated Logons
 Users have to log on using UPN
 Logon time increased by 30 - 40 %
TCO is higher
 More Labor
 Higher Maintenance
Increased machine (server) needs
Introduces complexity
Synchronization of objects between forests isn't (natively) supported
 Requires very expensive Metadirectory services from Microsoft or 3rd party
 Vendor ( Can cost over one million dollars)
Increased points of failure
Duplication of efforts across the organization
Multiple Schemas to maintain
Duplication of Backup and Recovery processes
Multiple DNS designs
Complex navigation (Users will have to navigate AD Structure)
Promotes separate company views of the enterprise
Only NT4 style non-transitive trust are supported between forests
  Higher cost of managing the trusts (manual setup)
  Higher propensity for failure (due to human error - manual setup)
  
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K

Can you forward a copy of the pro's/con's list that you presented?  We are
about to embark on the same battle.  Any information (documentation) that
anyone has would be very beneficial.

-Ted Strand-
Tech Data Corporation


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Cheers,
Paul

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