Point(s) taken.  Thanks for the correction, Roger.  I wasn't aware that
EDI was still so 'alive and kicking'.

Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone





> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@;mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of 
> Roger Seielstad
> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 7:22 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Biztalk
> 
> 
> That's a fairly accurate description, although there are some 
> other parts to it.
> 
> EDI is alive and well, and actually still a growth market, in 
> large part because of the dot crash companies like Ariba and 
> CommerceOne who sold a sold a bill of goods that couldn't be 
> delivered. There are traditional strongholds for EDI, such as 
> manufacturing, automotive and petrochemical, but healthcare 
> is still seriously considering it as it provides a lot of 
> cross platform opportunities. In addition, it is as secure as 
> you want to make it. We regularly traffic EDI for companies 
> that require end to end encryption and authentication via EDI.
> 
> I completely concur, however, that no solution is 
> z:\setup.exe <next> <next> <next> <finish> when it comes to 
> HIPAA compliance and the larger picture of EAI or B2B data 
> management. This is one where rolling your own solution might 
> be a bit more than you want to bite off.
> 
> Roger
> ------------------------------------------------------
> Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
> Atlanta, GA
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rick Kingslan [mailto:rkingsla@;cox.net]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 6:31 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Biztalk
> > 
> > 
> > Hahaha!  Boy, are you in for a REAL shock!  Justin, you're
> > poised on one
> > really TALL cliff! 
> > 
> > Cool technology, but one does not just drop in the CD, click a few 
> > buttons, connect A to B, then begin the transactions.
> > 
> > Given your tagline, I suspect they are wanting to look at 
> it for the 
> > HIPAA module(s) that MS offers to do transactions in lieu of EDI - 
> > which isn't as ubiquitous (or nearly as secure) as the 
> > medical/insurance industry needs it to be.
> > 
> > At a 50,000 foot level, BizTalk is Microsoft's server for creating 
> > business logic and rules in XML, and allowing it to 
> communicate across 
> > the common communication verbs that is XML, SOAP, etc.
> > 
> > With all due respect, Justin - (there may be one here, I
> > don't know) you
> > need to find an expert on BizTalk and the medical industry.  
> > This one's
> > a REAL toughy!  I'd run away very fast if at all possible.
> > 
> > Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
> > Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
> > Associate Expert
> > Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:ActiveDir-owner@;mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of 
> > > Salandra, Justin A.
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 3:08 PM
> > > To: ActiveDir (E-mail)
> > > Subject: [ActiveDir] Biztalk
> > > 
> > > 
> > > What is Biztalk used for?  My CIO asked me to look at it and
> > > I have never used it before.  Does anyone use it out there?  
> > > If so what do you do with it?
> > > 
> > > Justin A. Salandra, MCSE
> > > Senior Network Engineer
> > > Catholic Healthcare System
> > > 914.681.8117 office
> > > 646.483.3325 cell
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:jasalandra@;chcsnet.org>
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