SAMACCOUNTNAME - if old and new match then they can be considered the
"same". ADC does similar matching, although it can be extended to do
matches on EX5.5 primary nt account to an AD accounts sidhistory.

Since you've done script population, you need to match on a similar
attribute. If nothing matches, you can use the route mentioned below,
after doing your matching manually in excel.

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>From what I remember, there is an option in ADMT to merge accounts from
a
source domain if a "similar" account exists in the target domain. I
think
it's handled in the Naming Conflicts section of ADMT. I can't recall
which
attributes it uses to determine what constitutes a matching/conflicting
account, but there may be something in the documentation. You can
migrate
the groups first, without the members, and then have the user account
migrations update/correct the group memberships. This should also allow
you
to pull SIDHistory along.

Alternatives would include a batch/script process to clone the groups
and
repopulate the members, and subinacl.exe from the resource kit to handle
the
file permissions. Or you could go with one of the migration tools that
others have mentioned.

Hunter

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From: Morris, Adam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Subject: [ActiveDir] Migration Dilemma


Hunter,
The user accounts were all created by a script and an email was sent to
the
new account so it became a mailbox.  Permissions were then assigned to
the
mailbox to allow the NT 4 domain account owner rights to the mailbox so
they
are still authenticating with the old domain controllers.  There is an
Exchange 5.5 and ADC in the mix but it is at another site so hopefully
this
won't cause any issues.   
 
Basically we just want to migrate the groups and group memberships over
as
well as all the old file permissions so we can decommission the old
domain.
Initially we had thought the ADMT was going to be able to help us by
allowing us to tie the SID from the old account to the new account, but
it
looks like that is only an option if you don't already have the user
accounts created.   
 
Thank you for the response!
Adam
 
 
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What are the desired results?
 
How were the user accounts and mailboxes created in the new domain
initially? Are the users authenticating against the mailboxes with their
NT
4 accounts, or with the AD accounts? Is there an Exch 5.5 organization
and
an ADC in the mix?
 
Hunter 
 
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Subject: [ActiveDir] Migration Dilemma
 
Hello,
 
We are in the process of planning our migration from NT 4 to Windows
2000
AD.  Last year we deployed a minimal AD site in order to roll-out
Exchange
2000 for our users.  User accounts and mailboxes were created in the new
domain but no users were migrated.  Some initial testing with the ADMT
indicates that it will not produce the desired results.
  
At this time I can see 2 possible plans of action and I'm looking for
some
better options.  (Like maybe another way to migrate the SID's to the new
accounts in AD or a way to get ADMT to update the existing accounts
instead
of replacing them).
 
Plan 1:  Back up all the user mailboxes, wipe the AD accounts, use ADMT
to
move all the accounts/gropus, and then restore mailbox data.
 
Plan 2:  Spend the time to develop custom scripts that will add/create
the
appropriate groups and script as much of the migration as possible.
 
Currently we have close to 150 groups for around 400 users and multiple
file
servers so the thought of doing a manual migration process is pretty
painful.  If anybody has any suggestions or thoughts I'd much appreciate
the
feedback.
 
Thank you!
Adam Morris
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