RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Research Question

[Mulnick, Al]

Title: OT: Research Question

I'm somewhat idealistic as well.  I only want what most people want which is to feel needed and important.  Good bosses tend to figure that out and that no amount of money is worth being treated badly.  Sadly, most bosses aren't that way now are they?    As Joe mentions, salary is the greens fee.  Without it, there's no way you can sustain a high level of output for a decent length of time, mostly because other influences such as family life will create pressures to change.  Great for consulting, but not so much for long term employees.  Seems that many feel like they get what they pay for, so it matters to have a decent pay scale for the area and expertise you work in.   Environment is important.  Nobody is going to continually beat themselves up to go to work in a bad environment (people, surroundings, etc) when there are options.  I've found that if the greens fee isn't paid properly, then the environment tolerance is very low. It's not to say that working for less to be a part of a great environment where you feel you're needed isn't going to happen and cause less stress, but it's infrequently found.   I'm not sure it's important to have influence so much as it is to feel as if you're important and that you're being heard.  More importantly that you're providing a needed function.  Similar reasons are noted or people that join the peace corps or other charity organization.  There's reward for input and you feel important.      All of that said, I'd say that good pay is lower on the scale.  It's not important, it's expected.  A fulfilling work experience and feeling of contribution are important and higher on the scale for long term jobs.  That often encompasses challenge, input, influence, and generally feeling like you're contributing to the success of the organization.  We all know that there are at least 6 right answers to any given situation.  We at least want to feel like we contributed one of them.     Note that it's also expected that they treat your family well.  Work-life balance is also important whether you have a family or are single and would like to have some sort of companionship other than a pet rock and a computer.   -ajm From: joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 3:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Research Question Hmm   Salary (being paid is a way of being told job well done) Coworkers (getting paid a lot doesn't help much if you have sucky co-workers) Management (Bad management can make no amount of money enough after a while) Influence (hard to state this one, basically having input into what is being done and knowing it will be considered)     joe   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DL.ActiveDirectory Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 2:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Research Question Yes, but having live data from people I 'know' (so to speak) makes this a much more personal assignment, and one that I am more likely to get a good grade on since I have a kindred feeling for the research data. I am using ALL the answers I get, as each one adds a little more to the over all picture. Plus, this isn't the only list this got posted on. ;)   Mitch -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulnick, Al Posted At: Thursday, May 13, 2004 12:44 PM Posted To: ~AD Discussion~ Conversation: [ActiveDir] OT: Research Question Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Research Question   lol.   Mitch, you probably want to >insert favorite search engine< for surveys.  Places like Monster.com, Yahoo.com, Dice.com, etc all keep that kind of information as well for marketing purposes.  They may share. I'm sure the bureau of labor and statistics would keep such information as well.  Not to mention psychological websites, those related to workplace issues (OSHA?) and industry magazines that also conduct such salary and well-being surveys.   Happy hunting.   Al   From: Zach Huseby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 12:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Research Question the 2nd and the 18th of each month.       From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DL.ActiveDirectory Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 10:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Research Question Hello, I am doing research for a college project, and I would appreciate any feedback I can get on the following question: As an IT professional, what factors in your employment make a difference to you?  Why? I really appreciate the time you take to give me some insight into your world. Thank you, Mitch Noob college student