That was the impression I got too, when looking throught the ACS slides
(wasn't at the session either):

here's what it says on some slides
* ACS will ship with MOM management pack
* ACS is a Windows platform technology- not a complete solution
* ACS is specifically focused on security event collection in
high-security environments 
* MOM 2005 management pack provides a front-end to ACS
* ACS provides open interfaces for 3rd party extension [MOM not a
requirement] 

and
* Release
  - TBD (probably pretty soon)
* Licensing
  - TBD

=> so I'm currently not sure if you basically buy the MOM mgmt pack to
get ACS, or vice-versa.  But they still seem to be working on the
licensing, which would suggest it's not for free.  But at least you
don't NEED MOM for it.


/Guido

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It was announced at TechEd (although its second-hand information from
one of
our PMs; I wasn't at that session.)

-gil

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Where did you hear that? Last I heard in the beta group it was to be
included in the next 2K/2003 SP's.... but I am not as well connected as
you are :-]

Maybe ~eric can answer <G> 

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And, as I understand it, it is not going to be a free download or
Resource
Kit component any more. MSFT is going to charge for it.

-gil 

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>Anyone know where MS are with MACS now?

MACS is now called The Microsoft Windows Audit Collection Services (ACS)


Release Candidate 1 became available to beta testers at the end of
April.

ACS Release Candiate changes include:
1) Simplified and updated database schema
2) Updated communcations protocol
3) Complete support for SSL/TLS authentication
4) Improved performance & scalability
5) Improved setup experience
6) Improved security (on Windows XP and Windows Server 2003, ACS runs as
NetworkService)
7) Improved manageability
8) Database included
9) Many quality & stability improvements
 

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Anyone know where MS are with MACS now?

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