Anyone have the impact that would have on SAP application by chance?

Just curious really.  Don't have SAP handy. 

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Great, you have to love that! ~Eric have them fix their sheet!

Here is a little article about defuncting attribs/classes so you can learn
about it

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/ad/ad/disab
ling_existing_classes_and_attributes.asp


Unfortunately, defuncting is something you can only do in an FFL 2K3
forest... Or you can delete stuff but I think you have to be pre-W2K SP2.
OEM will definitely let you do it. Robbie published a nice little article on
this a ways back. MS got pissed and made it so you couldn't do it any
more... 

However I think you should be able to rename that attribute without any
major issue. However, I think I will wait for ~Eric to catch up with this
thread to say go for it!

The rename LDIF file would look something like

dn: CN=uid,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=X
changetype: modify
replace: lDAPDisplayName
lDAPDisplayName: OLDSAPuid
-

dn: CN=uid,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=X
changetype: modrdn
newrdn: cn=OLDSAPuid
deleteoldrdn: 1



If any of the SAP people are out there listening or for anyone modifying the
schema, as a matter of fact, for their own apps... Think about using names
and ldapDisplayNames unique to your company, MS will let you register a
name...



  joe


 

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No, that's why I said the error from adprep was misleading. The add of the
uid attribute silently failed, but then the add of the inetorgperson person
fails because OID 0.9.2342.19200300.100.1.1 isn't in the schema.

A little cruising in adsiedit shows a "delete" option for
CN=uid,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,... But I'm over my head here, and I'm
somewhat hesitant to jack around without fully understanding what the
ramifications are.

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So you didn't see an error higher up in sch18 on this entry

# Schema NC changes

dn: CN=uid,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=X
changetype: ntdsSchemaAdd
objectClass: attributeSchema
ldapDisplayName: uid
adminDisplayName: uid
adminDescription: A user ID.
attributeId: 0.9.2342.19200300.100.1.1
attributeSyntax: 2.5.5.12
omSyntax: 64
isSingleValued: FALSE
systemOnly: FALSE
searchFlags: 8
schemaIdGuid:: oPywC4ken0KQGhQTiU2fWQ==
attributeSecurityGuid:: Qi+6WaJ50BGQIADAT8LTzw==
showInAdvancedViewOnly: FALSE
systemFlags: 0


Do you have that in your directory now in a mangled format? I would guess
not since the inetOrgPerson is referring to it by attributeID and not by
name... But it seems you should have gotten an error on the import then when
you hit it versus getting further down... 





 

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LDIF.ERR contains:

Entry DN:
CN=inetOrgPerson,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=adstest,DC=kimball,DC=com
Add error on line 333: Unwilling To Perform The server side error is "Schema
update failed: attribute in may-contain does not exist." An error has
occurred in the program

LDIF.LOG shows that c:\winnt\system32\sch18.ldf was being imported at the
time of error. The last lines show:

24:
CN=inetOrgPerson,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=adstest,DC=kimball,DC=com
Entry DN:
CN=inetOrgPerson,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=adstest,DC=kimball,DC=com
Add error on line 333: Unwilling To Perform The server side error is "Schema
update failed: attribute in may-contain does not exist." 23 entries modified
successfully. An error has occurred in the program

SCH18.LDF line 333 contains:

dn: CN=inetOrgPerson,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=X
changetype: ntdsSchemaAdd
objectClass: classSchema
ldapDisplayName: inetOrgPerson
adminDisplayName: inetOrgPerson
adminDescription: Represents people who are associated with an organization
in some way.
governsId: 2.16.840.1.113730.3.2.2
objectClassCategory: 1
rdnAttId: 2.5.4.3
subClassOf: 1.2.840.113556.1.5.9
systemMayContain: 2.5.4.45
systemMayContain: 2.16.840.1.113730.3.140
systemMayContain: 2.16.840.1.113730.3.1.216
systemMayContain: 2.5.4.36
systemMayContain: 0.9.2342.19200300.100.1.1
systemMayContain: 0.9.2342.19200300.100.1.21
systemMayContain: 0.9.2342.19200300.100.1.6
systemMayContain: 2.16.840.1.113730.3.1.39
systemMayContain: 0.9.2342.19200300.100.1.7
systemMayContain: 0.9.2342.19200300.100.1.42
systemMayContain: 2.5.4.10
systemMayContain: 0.9.2342.19200300.100.1.41
systemMayContain: 0.9.2342.19200300.100.1.10
systemMayContain: 0.9.2342.19200300.100.1.3
systemMayContain: 1.3.6.1.4.1.250.1.57
systemMayContain: 0.9.2342.19200300.100.1.60
systemMayContain: 2.5.4.43
systemMayContain: 1.2.840.113556.1.2.617
systemMayContain: 0.9.2342.19200300.100.1.20
systemMayContain: 2.5.4.42
systemMayContain: 1.2.840.113556.1.2.613
systemMayContain: 1.2.840.113556.1.2.610
systemMayContain: 1.2.840.113556.1.2.13
systemMayContain: 2.16.840.1.113730.3.1.2
systemMayContain: 2.16.840.1.113730.3.1.1
systemMayContain: 2.5.4.15
systemMayContain: 0.9.2342.19200300.100.1.55
systemPossSuperiors: 1.2.840.113556.1.5.67
systemPossSuperiors: 2.5.6.5
systemPossSuperiors: 1.2.840.113556.1.3.23
schemaIdGuid:: FMwoSDcUvEWbB61vAV5fKA==
defaultSecurityDescriptor:
D:(A;;RPWPCRCCDCLCLORCWOWDSDDTSW;;;DA)(A;;RPWPCRCCDCLCLORCWOWDSDDTSW;;;S
Y)(A;;RPWPCRCCDCLCLORCWOWDSDDTSW;;;AO)(A;;RPLCLORC;;;PS)(OA;;CR;ab721a53
-1e2f-11d0-9819-00aa0040529b;;PS)(OA;;CR;ab721a54-1e2f-11d0-9819-00aa004
0529b;;PS)(OA;;CR;ab721a56-1e2f-11d0-9819-00aa0040529b;;PS)(OA;;RPWP;77B
5B886-944A-11d1-AEBD-0000F80367C1;;PS)(OA;;RPWP;E45795B2-9455-11d1-AEBD-
0000F80367C1;;PS)(OA;;RPWP;E45795B3-9455-11d1-AEBD-0000F80367C1;;PS)(OA;
;RP;037088f8-0ae1-11d2-b422-00a0c968f939;;RS)(OA;;RP;4c164200-20c0-11d0-
a768-00aa006e0529;;RS)(OA;;RP;bc0ac240-79a9-11d0-9020-00c04fc2d4cf;;RS)(
A;;RC;;;AU)(OA;;RP;59ba2f42-79a2-11d0-9020-00c04fc2d3cf;;AU)(OA;;RP;77B5
B886-944A-11d1-AEBD-0000F80367C1;;AU)(OA;;RP;E45795B3-9455-11d1-AEBD-000
0F80367C1;;AU)(OA;;RP;e48d0154-bcf8-11d1-8702-00c04fb96050;;AU)(OA;;CR;a
b721a53-1e2f-11d0-9819-00aa0040529b;;WD)(OA;;RP;5f202010-79a5-11d0-9020-
00c04fc2d4cf;;RS)(OA;;RPWP;bf967a7f-0de6-11d0-a285-00aa003049e2;;CA)
showInAdvancedViewOnly: FALSE
defaultHidingValue: FALSE
systemOnly: FALSE
defaultObjectCategory: CN=Person,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=X
systemFlags: 0



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For the sake of completeness can you give us the error that you're getting?
That way we know what element is failing on import.

Thanks!
~Eric




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Subject: [ActiveDir] Schema Gurus needed - SAP has buggered my 2003 upgrade
attempt

I attempted to run adprep /forestprep in my test forest, only to have it
fail with a cryptic (and misleading, as it turns out) error recorded in it's
log.

Googling the error text lead me to a post by a MS support guy who has
written a script that will hash a schema update LDIF file against a schema
dump, and warn you of any conflicts (You'd think adprep maybe should do this
BEFORE it starts upgrading the schema...)

Anyway, the problem stems from extending the schema for SAP's portal product
which created this attribute:

dn: CN=uid,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=adstest,DC=kimball,DC=com
changetype: add
adminDisplayName: uid
attributeID: 
 
1.2.840.113556.1.4.7000.233.28688.28684.8.464850.1724825.154498.1299246.
15
attributeSyntax: 2.5.5.4
cn: uid
instanceType: 4
isSingleValued: TRUE
lDAPDisplayName: uid
distinguishedName: 
 CN=uid,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=adstest,DC=kimball,DC=com
objectCategory: 
 
CN=Attribute-Schema,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=adstest,DC=kimball,DC=
com
objectClass: attributeSchema
objectGUID:: f1Sz+++ZY0eIH7t1mStJIA==
oMSyntax: 20
name: uid
schemaIDGUID:: Qy93MDGWsEqRfKr837RfzA==
showInAdvancedViewOnly: TRUE
uSNChanged: 705240
uSNCreated: 705240
whenChanged: 20021002184940.0Z
whenCreated: 20021002184940.0Z

Now for the part I don't know: how do I fix it? The SAP portal was tested,
but was back-burned indefinately, so I don't have to worry about breaking
it.

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