No apologies man.  I'm still trying to learn this stuff... :)  I'll earmark your post 
for whenever I read your suggestions.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Wells
Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 9:35 AM
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Hmmm ... sorry about that.  I would suggest giving the MS definitions of
"dynamic object" and "dynamic auxiliary class" a read ... they're really
pretty good.

Dean

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hahaha

crud.  I didn't understand one bit of that!

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Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 10:36 AM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Delete ad object without Tombstone lifetime.

Ah. Oh yeah. Very good very good. Dean. 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 10:32 AM
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OK, if you had only Windows 2000 or even a hybrid this would not be
particularly feasible nor advisable but since you don't, it's going to be
just peachy assuming you're at forest functional level 2 (Server 2003
Native) ... if you're not, it's still doable, just a lot more awkward and
less than supported.

******** WARNING - I'd like to point out to you that misuse of this feature
can entirely (and nigh on irrecoverably) destroy a forest ********

Windows 2003's Active Directory supports two applicable LDAP features;
dynamic objects and dynamic auxiliary classes.  

1. Dynamic aux. classes allow you to bolt an auxiliary class to new object
instances without having first made any schema alterations (i.e. - no schema
modification of any kind occurred).  The attributes assigned to the
auxiliary class then become available to the object instance(s) to which the
aux. class was assigned.

2. Dynamic objects provides a mean by which a TTL (using a unit of seconds)
can be written to an object after which time it self expires ~simultaneously
on all DCs without the need for a tombstone.

By using dyn. aux. classes we can dynamically bolt the dynamicObject class
to new object instances which serves to provide us the attributes we need;
most prominently entryTTL.  When the entry TTL is populated, the directory
service calculates an effective "time of death" and writes that to
msDS-Entry-Time-To-Die (both attributes are actually constructed depending
on how they're used).

I've not attempted this with CSVDE but have done so numerous times via code
and through LDIFDE so I'll leave it you to attempt the LDIF(DE) to CSV(DE)
conversion.  Here's an example LDIF file that creates a "contact" beneath
the domain root using the default-minimum TTL of 15 minutes (this default
can be reduced if it's too high) -

[Begin LDIF file named "foo.ldif"]
dn: cn=suicidal,dc=X
changetype: add
objectClass: contact
objectClass: dynamicObject
entryTTL: 901
[/LDIF file]

... here's the command line syntax to inject its content -

ldifde -i -f foo.ldif -c DC=X <your distinguished name here>

... for example -

ldifde -i -f foo.ldif -c DC=X dc=mset,dc=local

Hope that proves useful.

Dean

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of BATARD olivier
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 8:39 AM
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I have a Windows 2003 domain exclusively.

Olivier BATARD, Technicien système - Poste 1655 Gestion Interne SIGMA
Informatique http://www.sigma.fr
3 rue Newton, BP 4127, 44241 La Chapelle sur Erdre Cedex



-----Message d'origine-----
De : Dean Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : mercredi 11 août
2004 14:41 À : Send - AD mailing list Objet : RE: [ActiveDir] Delete ad
object without Tombstone lifetime.


Do you have Windows 2000, 2003 or a combination?

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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of BATARD olivier
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 5:43 AM
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Subject: [ActiveDir] Delete ad object without Tombstone lifetime.


Hello,

I'm testing a csvde file and I want to delete object directly,without
Tombstonelifetime. How can I do that ?


Thanks,

Olivier BATARD, Technicien système - Poste 1655 Gestion Interne SIGMA
Informatique http://www.sigma.fr
3 rue Newton, BP 4127, 44241 La Chapelle sur Erdre Cedex


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