Jordan

I'm glad it worked out for you.  Apologies for misleading you and Dave on this.  I'm 
pretty confused right now because I thought I had understood the behaviour pretty 
well.  

I'll see if you can get someone from inside MS to provide a decent description of how 
it actually works.

Tony
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Jordan Arendt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Fri, 17 Sep 2004 08:49:58 -0600

Tony,

I'm using ADMT v2 into a 2k3 domain, so they may have changed it
somewhat.  Anyway, I got it working so it's all good.  Would have been
nice to see that mentioned somewhere in the docs I read though.


On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 09:38:03 -0400, Tony Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> David
> 
> Strange.  My experience was also first hand.  We migrated a large number of NT 
> domains (with various different password policies) to a single Windows 2000 AD 
> domain using ADMT 2.0.  In many cases the source domain didn't conform to the 
> password requirements (length, complexity) of the target domain, but the passwords 
> were still exported successfully.
> 
> Maybe the behaviour changes if the target domain is W2K3 AD?
> 
> In any case, our discussion may be moot given the error that Jordan sees.  The 
> "access is denied" in the error would appear to indicate some other issue.
> 
> Tony
> 
> 
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date:  Fri, 17 Sep 2004 08:50:58 -0400
> 
> Tony,
> 
> That situation was a first hand experience for me.  Once I reset (loosened)
> the password policy on 2K3, the export went.  In my case, it was not
> complexity that was stopping it, but minimum password length.
> 
> Jordan,
> 
> I just remembered another gotcha.  If you reinstalled the pes dll on the NT4
> PDC or installed it after you did all the regedits, recheck the reg edits,
> as the pes install resets some of the values.  Again another "first hand
> experience"
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Murray
> Sent: September 17, 2004 7:48 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] ADMT v2 PES question
> 
> Jordan
> 
> You might want to first double-check David's statement below.  My
> understanding is that ADMT 2.0 doesn't enforce complexity in any way for
> exported passwords.  It doesn't actually export the password, only the hash.
> In other words, it won't know whether the password complexity requirements
> of the target domain are met by the password or not.  The password
> complexity is only enforced when the user next changes password.
> 
> The only situation I know of where a new password is generated to meet the
> complexity requirements is where there is no password associated with the
> account in the source domain.
> 
> Tony
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: Jordan Arendt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date:  Thu, 16 Sep 2004 11:12:51 -0600
> 
> Thanks.  I had "dumbed down" my default domain password policy as the NT 4
> domain only required a password length of 6 characters.  I am new to the
> site and didn't realize that complex passwords were not enforced, I just
> assumed it (ya ya ass u me).  So anyway, I removed complex passwords from
> the domain security policy and will do so when we do the actual migration.
> Then enforce it once everyone is migrated over.  Sigh.
> 
> Thanks again,
> 
> Jordan
> 
> On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 21:59:37 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Check you default domain password policy.  Likely your source domain
> > has a weaker policy than the target (2K3) so it generates a random
> > Password that meets the policy and places it in a file in the ADMT\logs
> directory.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jordan Arendt
> > Sent: September 15, 2004 6:11 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] ADMT v2 PES question
> >
> > 1.  Yes. Can ping both ways from each machine. Wins servers are
> > entered correctly.
> >
> > 2. Yes the Pre-Windows 2000 Compatible Access group has the following
> > members:
> > Anonymous Logon
> > Authenticated Users
> > Everyone
> >
> > On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 23:18:41 +0200, Paul van Geldrop
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > Jordan,
> > >
> > > 1) Did you verify that both DNS _and_ WINS resolution are
> > > functioning properly ? You will need both of these to function
> > > properly for the migration to work.
> > > 2) Did you add both the Anonymous Logon group as the Everyone group
> > > to the Pre-Windows 2000 Compatible Access group ?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Paul.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jordan Arendt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 10:52 PM
> > > Subject: [ActiveDir] ADMT v2 PES question
> > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > So, I've got a 2k3 forest that I am migrating an NT 4 domain into.
> > > > I've setup a Password Export Server on a DC in my test NT 4 domain.
> > > > Set registry entries, established trusts, etc.  When I go to
> > > > migrate a user, I get:
> > > >
> > > > WRN1:7557 Failed to copy the password for {user.} A strong
> > > > password has been generated instead. Unable to copy password. Access
> is denied.
> > > >
> > > > I'm looking at
> > > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;%5BLN%5D;322981
> > > >
> > > > and have verified everything except:
> > > >
> > > > Pre-Windows 2000 Compatible Access has Read and Enumerate Entire
> > > > SAM Domain permissions on the object, as follows:
> > > > CN=Server,CN=System,DC={TargetDomain},DC={tld}
> > > >
> > > > Can anyone translate this for me?  I'm not sure what I am supposed
> > > > to do here.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Jordan
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