Daniel, one other solution you may consider is to use NAS storage for the off-site. I've seen companies use SNAP drives for this purpose vs. USB. Same concept, just a little easier to work with.
The term is "hierarchichal storage" for going from on-line to near-line to off-site storage. The concepts have been around forever in computing and you can find lots of great ideas on the net to help be creative. In your case, it sounds like the off-site is the big issue. That's often done with tapes only because they tend to be cheap. NAS devices are getting cheap as well and some of them become the long term, off-site storage. Wanna talk about restore windows? <G> Al -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Sent: 10/25/2004 2:04 PM Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Backup Strategy Sorry, you're right. :) -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]On Behalf Of Renouf, Phil Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 11:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Backup Strategy This is becoming a pretty common scenario for companies who have a shrinking backup window but still require the same or higher level of uptime. Backing up to disk then running your tape backup on that disk based backup is a great way to keep your backup window small and still provide offsite storage of backup media and quicker restores from your disk based backup. When you architect the backup environment I would try and provide for a backup network that is separate from your production LAN so that when you are running those tape backups during the day you don't impact the production network with that traffic. A SAN would also limit the network traffic and unless your environment is very large would probably negate the need for the backup network. I think you are referring to LTO when you say lso. Phil -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] On Behalf Of Rodriguez, Daniel [EPM/SRM] Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 12:29 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Backup Strategy I am kinda in the same boat as you. I have talked to my management and they seem please with the recommendations that I have shown them. Now what I have: I have two DLT-IV Tape Libraries that are backing up a combined total of 200Gb a night. I am looking at the Compaq Itanium Disk Array with LSO Tape Backup. I am using Backup Exec 9.1 and will utilize their Disk-to-Disk Backup at night, and then during the day, backup to LSO Tape so I can monitor it. Also, the disk array will allow me to move the data off some of our servers for disaster recovery. The money that you invest in you scenario, you can purchase a good tape library, disk array. IMHO. Daniel E. Rodriguez Information Technology Emerson Process Management Fisher Controls Division Sherman, Texas (903)868-3357 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]On Behalf Of Dan DeStefano Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 10:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ActiveDir] Backup Strategy I am sorry if this is off-topic, but I greatly respect the opinions/suggestions that come from this list. I am working on a backup strategy for my company. We have just over 300GB of data to back up. I have been asked to estimate storage capacity/cost required to keep data for 1 month and 3 months, so this means that we will need between 1 and 3 TB of storage. The current backups are stored on a SCSI array and the plan is to use USB drives for offsiting our data. This means that we will need 4-12 300GB USB drives to store our offsite data. I personally do not like this solution and am in favor of a disk/tape solution; using a disk array for onsite backups and using tape for offsite backups. The company prefers disk-based backup because of its speed. However, I think that disks are less reliable than tape and that using USB drives is not an enterprise-class solution (I have also heard that those 300GB USB drives are not too reliable). Not to mention the fact that these drives are bulky and our server room is already pretty cramped. Does anyone have any suggestions? Are my concerns valid? 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